Fewer people are getting married because there’s a shortage of economically-stable single men, says study

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interesting that cuba has over 50% without any of the wests bullshit. almost like most ppl are just not supposed to be together forever.
 
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I honestly don't see what goes through a man's mind when he agrees to marriage.

There are absolutely no pluses in it whatsoever. He must think to himself one day 'If we were to split up, I'd get to keep most of my shit. That's not good, I'd better get married straight away so she can have it'.

'Our sex life is great, that can't be good, I'd better get married straight away so I can spend the rest of my life looking at beautiful single women and ejaculating into my hand every night'.
 
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interesting that cuba has over 50% without any of the wests bullshit. almost like most ppl are just not supposed to be together forever.
But human children take between 16 and 20+ years on average to become self sufficient individuals, so assuming you have a kid in your late 20's to mid 30's like most people, which has inherent problems in it's own right, that means you should be with your partner until you're close to 50 years old.

Fuck going out into the dating market at that age and I don't fancy living the single life in my later years either.

At some point the vast majority of us are making decisions based on our offspring.
 
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On the other hand, those of us with large and rapidly appreciating net worth are hesitant to give someone access to half of that.
Ha ha ha this!!!! So this!

(And to think I used to get called a women hater for saying this stuff a few years back :rofl)

I'll tell you one of the things I struggle with daily: personal space. I won't lie it's probably my biggest issue in our relationship, I do like, heck need, personal space and she just doesn't get that.
 
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But human children take between 16 and 20+ years on average to become self sufficient individuals, so assuming you have a kid in your late 20's to mid 30's like most people, which has inherent problems in it's own right, that means you should be with your partner until you're close to 50 years old.

Fuck going out into the dating market at that age and I don't fancy living the single life in my later years either.

At some point the vast majority of us are making decisions based on our offspring.
i don't understand what decisions you are talking about.

in one scenario 2 people love and take care of a child and do the best for it.
in the other scenario it is exactly the same but those people are married.

what benefits does the second scenario give to the kids?
 
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i don't understand what decisions you are talking about.

in one scenario 2 people love and take care of a child and do the best for it.
in the other scenario it is exactly the same but those people are married.

what benefits does the second scenario give to the kids?
Marriage is an outdated concept. What we need in today's world is a concept similar to marriage but without the legal restraints and yet recognises the partnership. Something that signifies a mutually beneficial bond without the inherent legal risks.

Take the example you gave. Two people in love with a common goal or raising a child but with a simple exit mechanism if either chooses and that ensures both parties get out only what they put in. Eg partner 2 can't take partner 1s assets, they can however take their own and half of what the two acquired together.

In a nutshell if you own your home. Your savings. Your salary. Its yours and can't be taken away. If you both bought the home then it's split.

The system now as it is, isn't fit for purpose. And let's be honest more often than not it's the guy that gets shafted. Statistically over 40 males are amongst the highest suicide bracket and I will take a big wager being locked into loveless marriages or painful life destroying divorces is part of that reason.
 
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You know why less people are not getting married, social media

I personally know about 4 steady 6/10s, not bad looking but you wouldn’t be bragging about smashing either, I know coz I’ve nailed one and fingered another one and only spilled the beans when pushed by the lads, infact I didn’t even properly shag her, I had that much coke I was saying “ loving that aren’t ye” and only realised why she said nothing back, looked down an I had no dick man, just this pathetic, foreskin that looked like a piece of Sui mai

Anyway these girls on insta get hundreds of likes because they only post pictures when they are dolled up to the nines, so when they are getting so much smoke blown up there arse, these 6’s suddenly believe their better than their 6 male counterparts and won’t be happy till they bag a 8/9, it’s stupid as fuck

10 years ago if you were going through a rough patch with your bird, it was a lot easier to come through it without straying because you didn’t have such easy access to your next bad decision

I honestly believe social media is a curse on society, I should be reading a book man but instead I’m flipping through the same 4 platforms and wondering why blah blah has a better house than me or blah blah has a better car than me, don’t know whether that’s just my competitive nature though, it’s fucking depressing man, then you turn the telly on and see some poor cunt in India shitting in the street and living in storm drains and getting a drink can literally be life and death

Kids are fucked aswell, absolutely no social skills whatsoever, no wonder they need safe spaces and all that bollocks when your arguments are over Snapchat, all anybody done years ago was play footy were I live, I haven’t seen a single group of kids playing heads and vollys in years
 
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I've always been criticised by ex's for not conforming to their idea of how I should be, the day I become some plaid shirt wearing drone walking around DFS is the day I contemplate topping myself. My current girlfriend isn't fussed about marriage or kids, she's been there done that, her kids are adults now so she's just up for enjoying herself.
 

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I've always been criticised by ex's for not conforming to their idea of how I should be, the day I become some plaid shirt wearing drone walking around DFS is the day I contemplate topping myself. My current girlfriend isn't fussed about marriage or kids, she's been there done that, her kids are adults now so she's just up for enjoying herself.
Ikea is another one they're obsessed with.

Never been in one. Never will. :nono
 

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Most women have impossible expectations that contradict themselves. Like they want a man that makes a ton of money but they get upset if he has to travel a lot for work or works too many hours. He needs to be sensitive but also manly and alpha. Good looking but ok with it when she lets herself go and puts in 60 pounds, etc. Etc. Etc. For every expectation they have they have another that contradicts it
Yep, I had an ex who moaned about how her ex was boring and she wanted a bit of excitement, so one weekend she came with me when I was racing my bike and she had a fucking panic attack when I was out on track. She went back to boring dullards when she found I was never going to give racing up for weekends in watching shit on the telly.
 
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interesting that cuba has over 50% without any of the wests bullshit. almost like most ppl are just not supposed to be together forever.
monogamy is biologically incorrect for humans. in fact, for just about every species of animal.

marriage is a load of religious bullshit, i don't know why it still exists to be honest.

same goes for religion.
 
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I honestly don't see what goes through a man's mind when he agrees to marriage.
i'll tell you what it is.

they don't have the guts to put up with the inevitable criticism that goes with staying single.

  1. you must be gay
  2. you're not a real man
  3. what's wrong with you
  4. you just haven't found the right girl
  5. you hate women
mate i have heard it all over and over. finally people have stopped with it, and quite a few that are now divorced have egg on their face.

they have realised all along that i was right.

marriage is unrealistic - the divorce statistics prove it. in australia, 2 out of 3 marriages end in divorce.

that should scare men off right there, but no, they still seem to fall for it like idiots.
 

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I'll tell you one of the things I struggle with daily: personal space. I won't lie it's probably my biggest issue in our relationship, I do like, heck need, personal space and she just doesn't get that.
right on again :good

i cannot stand anyone in my house for more than a few hours.

its my pad, its where i relax and chill out.

its why i will never have flat mates or any of that, no way.

i am prepared to pay the full rent to have my own joint where no one can annoy me.
 
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i don't understand what decisions you are talking about.

in one scenario 2 people love and take care of a child and do the best for it.
in the other scenario it is exactly the same but those people are married.

what benefits does the second scenario give to the kids?
I was responding to "almost like most ppl are just not supposed to be together forever.", which seemed to be the main point in the post I quoted, that despite different economic conditions, the divorce rate is consistent?
 

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I was responding to "almost like most ppl are just not supposed to be together forever.", which seemed to be the main point in the post I quoted, that despite different economic conditions, the divorce rate is consistent?
yeah i read your post wrong, i thought you were saying that getting married is better for the kids. i think the high divorce rate kind of disproves the idea that marrying at 30 means you wont grow old alone, but that's a reasonable thing to try and avoid.
 
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Yep, I had an ex who moaned about how her ex was boring and she wanted a bit of excitement, so one weekend she came with me when I was racing my bike and she had a fucking panic attack when I was out on track. She went back to boring dullards when she found I was never going to give racing up for weekends in watching shit on the telly.
Being on your end of that arrangement must've been awesome, at least in the beginning. In my experience women that are frustrated with a boring man will do just about anything in bed because of the excitement of something new
 
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I honestly don't see what goes through a man's mind when he agrees to marriage.

There are absolutely no pluses in it whatsoever. He must think to himself one day 'If we were to split up, I'd get to keep most of my shit. That's not good, I'd better get married straight away so she can have it'.

'Our sex life is great, that can't be good, I'd better get married straight away so I can spend the rest of my life looking at beautiful single women and ejaculating into my hand every night'.
In Australia you don’t even have to be married for your relationship to have legal status.
A defacto separation (non-married/living together-no kids for a nominal period) will see a man lose half of his superannuation and she will lose none of hers. This is the case in every state except mine* and they are trying to go the same way.

*There may be more states/territorys I can’t be arsed googling it.
 
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In Australia you don’t even have to be married for your relationship to have legal status.
A defacto separation (non-married/living together-no kids for a nominal period) will see a man lose half of his superannuation and she will lose none of hers. This is the case in every state except mine* and they are trying to go the same way.

*There may be more states/territorys I can’t be arsed googling it.
Do they state anything as justification for this?
 

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Being on your end of that arrangement must've been awesome, at least in the beginning. In my experience women that are frustrated with a boring man will do just about anything in bed because of the excitement of something new
I think she originally thought "bike racing = glamour, excitement and money" then when she saw the reality, sleeping in the back of a van, beans on toast for breakfast, crashes, broken bones, amputated limbs, paralysis and death she wanted out straight away.