Fighters who had overrated power.

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yes yes, ruddock won by ko in the 7 actually..
I don't know, I'm fairly sure it ended in the 6th round. The referee was overzealous with his standing 8 count, and later on with the stoppage. I can't say for sure what would have happened had the fight gone to the 7th round but I do know it shouldn't have been stopped with 10 seconds to go in the 6th. Morrison wasn't landing all that regularly or all that cleanly. Poor officiating.
 

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NO HE DID NOT HIT CLEARLY HARDER, pinklon thommas fought both men and he said that morrison did hit harder, so i will take the word of a guy who took shots from both men... plus morrison did hurt ruddock with a single shot much more than tyson did with a single shot
YES HE DID CLEARLY HIT HARDER!!! WITH HIS RIGHT HAND!!!! Give me a vid showing Morrison repeatedly one shotting guys with his right and I might consider conceding the point.
 
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YES HE DID CLEARLY HIT HARDER!!! WITH HIS RIGHT HAND!!!! Give me a vid showing Morrison repeatedly one shotting guys with his right and I might consider conceding the point.
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tyson had a harder right hand than morrison but the left hook of morrison was a harder single shot than any shot from tyson. morrison smashed ruddock with a single left hook, tyson never could do it with his right hand vs ruddock, not like that.
 
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tyson had a wider arsenal of blows of course, he was the better puncer, but i am talking about power with his best shot.. morrison did hit harder
 

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Old Foreman's power is horribly overrated. The bottom line is, he would've knocked more people out if it were so great. He knocked out a fragile-chinned Moorer, a coked-out mess in Bert Cooper, and a washed up coke-head/alcoholic in Cooney. That's one notable knock out in my book. John Ruiz level power if we're going off stats.
 
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Old Foreman's power is horribly overrated. The bottom line is, he would've knocked more people out if it were so great. He knocked out a fragile-chinned Moorer, a coked-out mess in Bert Cooper, and a washed up coke-head/alcoholic in Cooney. That's one notable knock out in my book. John Ruiz level power if we're going off stats.
overrated? haha he was clearly the hardest puncher around in the 80s and 90s, the problem is that he was old and slow and he could not land in the key point. horrible mention.. you are clearly a foreman hater, probably you would say that prime foreman was overrated also but then million of people would be against you so you will not say it..
 

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tyson had a harder right hand than morrison but the left hook of morrison was a harder single shot than any shot from tyson. morrison smashed ruddock with a single left hook, tyson never could do it with his right hand vs ruddock, not like that.
I'm not being funny, but Razor literally ran into a Morrison left hook that he didn't see coming and he still only took a 4-5 count. Ruddock would never have been that careless in the ring with Tyson. He would have likely took a 10 count if he had.
 
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I'm not being funny, but Razor literally ran into a Morrison left hook that he didn't see coming and he still only took a 4-5 count. Ruddock would never have been that careless in the ring with Tyson. He would have likely took a 10 count if he had.
facts vs speculation.. i win...
 

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overrated? haha he was clearly the hardest puncher around in the 80s and 90s, the problem is that he was old and slow and he could not land in the key point. horrible mention.. you are clearly a foreman hater, probably you would say that prime foreman was overrated also but then million of people would be against you so you will not say it..
Hardest puncher of the 80s and 90s? What do you base that on? Certainly not results.
 

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tyson had a harder right hand than morrison but the left hook of morrison was a harder single shot than any shot from tyson. morrison smashed ruddock with a single left hook, tyson never could do it with his right hand vs ruddock, not like that.
Tyson faced a better, more durable version of Rudduck, one that hadn't been battered by Tyson himself and Lewis. Rudduck clearly wasn't the same after those losses.
 
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overrated? haha he was clearly the hardest puncher around in the 80s and 90s, the problem is that he was old and slow and he could not land in the key point. horrible mention.. you are clearly a foreman hater, probably you would say that prime foreman was overrated also but then million of people would be against you so you will not say it..
the hardest puncher of the 80s and 90s is a bit of a stretch, even if you're just talking heavyweights. Old Foreman still had the power but not the power of his youth i'd say. The moorer KO is great and he had many awesome knockouts in his second incarnation (the Coetzee one is brutal even if it's a TKO, he shattered that fuckers nose and nearly killed him). Have said that, I think you'd have a very tough argument saying that old foreman was a harder hitter than Tyson or Lewis. Lewis would he hit his stride and committed to hurting his opponents was a monster and tyson was...well tyson. Old Foreman still had the power but just not as much. If he did, Holyfield wouldn't have been standing at the end of that fight
 
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the hardest puncher of the 80s and 90s is a bit of a stretch, even if you're just talking heavyweights. Old foreman still had the power but not the power of his youth i'd say. The moorer ko is great and he had many awesome knockouts in his second incarnation (the coetzee one is brutal even if it's a tko, he shattered that fuckers nose and nearly killed him). Have said that, i think you'd have a very tough argument saying that old foreman was a harder hitter than tyson or lewis. Lewis would he hit his stride and committed to hurting his opponents was a monster and tyson was...well tyson. Old foreman still had the power but just not as much. If he did, holyfield wouldn't have been standing at the end of that fight
evander said that old foreman did hit harder than anyone that he fought ever (sparring or real fight), cosidering that he faced the elite... Tyson,lewis,bowe (tua sparring), bert cooper... Yes.. Foreman was the hardest puncher in his 40s, foreman had the ultimate punch, even in his 40s simply he was not fast enough to land it.
 
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Hardest puncher of the 80s and 90s? What do you base that on? Certainly not results.
EVANDER HOLYFIELD.. HIS WORD ... HE FACED THE ELITE PUNCHERS OF THE ERA... LEWIS, TYSON, (TUA SPARRING),BERT COOPER, BOWE.. HE SAID THAT FOREMAN DID HIT THE HARDEST...NOW TELL ME WHAT YOU HAVE...:hi:
 
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tyson faced a better, more durable version of rudduck, one that hadn't been battered by tyson himself and lewis. Rudduck clearly wasn't the same after those losses.
i am very tired to listen this crap tommy.. Ruddock was magically more durable when he faced tyson? Hahah please.. Don´t make me laugh...
 

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i am very tired to listen this crap tommy.. Ruddock was magically more durable when he faced tyson? Hahah please.. Don´t make me laugh...
So are you pretending that knockouts do not change fighters? They certainly do.

Rudduck endured 2 beatings against Tyson and then got sparked out by Lewis. Plenty of fighters in the past have lost durability/punch resistance as soon as they get knocked out/received a beating. There's nothing magical about it.
 

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EVANDER HOLYFIELD.. HIS WORD ... HE FACED THE ELITE PUNCHERS OF THE ERA... LEWIS, TYSON, (TUA SPARRING),BERT COOPER, BOWE.. HE SAID THAT FOREMAN DID HIT THE HARDEST...NOW TELL ME WHAT YOU HAVE...:hi:
He doesn't mention Foreman in all interviews.
http://www.boxingnews24.com/2011/01/evander-holyfield-interview/
Chip Mitchell: Okay, the next few questions come from boxing fans who seek answers for historical reference. Michael Ferguson in Concord, VA asks who the hardest puncher you’ve faced is. In terms of consistent hard punches, not just a single shot…

Evander Holyfield: Well consistently getting hit hard, I would say Riddick Bowe. But then again, it’s because he caught me with them shots! When you are talking about how hard somebody hits, actually, you have to get hit by them. You can’t just go by what you see somebody do to somebody else. Like I say, I see Mike Tyson hit a lot of people hard. He just didn’t get me with them shots, I was able to have good defense. But it doesn’t mean he don’t hit hard. But Riddick Bowe on a consistent basis of being hit, I was hit more by him more than I guess any heavyweight. Hard shots.

His own site:
Holyfield certainly has been hit before. As an aggressive, come forward fighter he has walked directly into the line of fire of some of the sports biggest punchers. Whilst destructive forces like Mike Tyson and George Foreman have been unable to make a significant dent in him, he credits a familiar figure with landing the hardest shot he has taken in the ring.

“When I fought Lewis in the second fight, I had him hurt! He was wobbling back and I was pressuring him and he hit me with an uppercut. Whoooo. I had him. I had him!” laughs Holyfield. “He threw that uppercut that hit me on the chin and it changed things. I wasn’t able to finish how I wanted to after that good right uppercut.”

http://www.evanderholyfield.com/2012/01/19/livefight-interview-evander-holyfield-part-2/

Boxers are often contradictionary who they mention as being the hardest hitter
 
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Old Foreman's power is horribly overrated. The bottom line is, he would've knocked more people out if it were so great. He knocked out a fragile-chinned Moorer, a coked-out mess in Bert Cooper, and a washed up coke-head/alcoholic in Cooney. That's one notable knock out in my book. John Ruiz level power if we're going off stats.
Stats? Use your eyes.
 
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Its laughable to pretend that fixed fight foreman was the hardest puncher of the 80s and 90s and yes the beatings that Tyson laid on Ruddock changed his career. Tyson softened him up big time. Ruddock would have been better served not taking the rematch. He may have had some room to argue that he was stopped a little too soon (debateable) against Tyson in the first fight but he wasnt winning that fight, not even close.
 
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He doesn't mention Foreman in all interviews.
http://www.boxingnews24.com/2011/01/evander-holyfield-interview/
Chip Mitchell: Okay, the next few questions come from boxing fans who seek answers for historical reference. Michael Ferguson in Concord, VA asks who the hardest puncher you’ve faced is. In terms of consistent hard punches, not just a single shot…

Evander Holyfield: Well consistently getting hit hard, I would say Riddick Bowe. But then again, it’s because he caught me with them shots! When you are talking about how hard somebody hits, actually, you have to get hit by them. You can’t just go by what you see somebody do to somebody else. Like I say, I see Mike Tyson hit a lot of people hard. He just didn’t get me with them shots, I was able to have good defense. But it doesn’t mean he don’t hit hard. But Riddick Bowe on a consistent basis of being hit, I was hit more by him more than I guess any heavyweight. Hard shots.

His own site:
Holyfield certainly has been hit before. As an aggressive, come forward fighter he has walked directly into the line of fire of some of the sports biggest punchers. Whilst destructive forces like Mike Tyson and George Foreman have been unable to make a significant dent in him, he credits a familiar figure with landing the hardest shot he has taken in the ring.

“When I fought Lewis in the second fight, I had him hurt! He was wobbling back and I was pressuring him and he hit me with an uppercut. Whoooo. I had him. I had him!” laughs Holyfield. “He threw that uppercut that hit me on the chin and it changed things. I wasn’t able to finish how I wanted to after that good right uppercut.”

http://www.evanderholyfield.com/2012/01/19/livefight-interview-evander-holyfield-part-2/

Boxers are often contradictionary who they mention as being the hardest hitter
[video=youtube;lMwWynfQKLc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMwWynfQKLc[/video]

yes he did mention it..