Formula 1 2020 Season (+ fantasy league)

Who will win the WDC?


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May 22, 2013
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Missed the qualifying but unsurprisingly Mercedes up from with Hamilton 1 and Bottas 2.

Interestingly though Lance Stroll 3rd of all people.

I doubt Lance will be in the top 3 long though but Hamilton and Bottas will lead start to finish
 
May 10, 2013
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Another uneventful race besides Max chasing for second and Mercedes 2019 being better than most 2020 cars.

I think I may stop tuning in because the qualifiers are pretty much the highlight of Hamilton gets pole every time.
 
May 18, 2013
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Good race besides the lead. Max and lewis are the class of the field, they both, especially max, demolish their teammates every week.

The pending rain really threw a wrench into things which is fun to watch. Surprised to see haas as the only ones that pitted right away for slicks. Anyone starting towards the back would have benefited from that call, track had some dry patches at the start.

Leclerc got screwed going into the softs. Which I didnt think was a bad call if they were expecting more rain withing 10 15 minutes. Just missed the circuit so he got hung out.

Stroll is obviously pretty damn good in wet/ changing conditions. Guy isnt nearly as bad as many think he is. Probably wasnt ready for the seat when he got it but hes now a capably driver
 
May 22, 2013
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Just finished watching Hungry race. The races are always on to late on a Sunday night for me to watch live so I've been trying to stay away from the results and catch up through the week.

I still think Lewis is the clear best driver out there but Max would really push him if he was in a merc as well. Lewis would still probably edge him but it would be tight.

The races are getting have been good so far. With Ferrari's performance dropping and them becoming more of a mid field car this year it only leaves Lewis, Max and Valtteri as the only real contenders for the podium and it makes the midfield races so much better.

Always blows me out how narrow the margins of error are in the sport though. For as good a car Bottas has and for how good he drove all race, that slight fuck up right at the start put him out of it and carried the whole race.
 
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Just finished watching Hungry race. The races are always on to late on a Sunday night for me to watch live so I've been trying to stay away from the results and catch up through the week.

I still think Lewis is the clear best driver out there but Max would really push him if he was in a merc as well. Lewis would still probably edge him but it would be tight.

The races are getting have been good so far. With Ferrari's performance dropping and them becoming more of a mid field car this year it only leaves Lewis, Max and Valtteri as the only real contenders for the podium and it makes the midfield races so much better.

Always blows me out how narrow the margins of error are in the sport though. For as good a car Bottas has and for how good he drove all race, that slight fuck up right at the start put him out of it and carried the whole race.
Most days you have to be perfect to beat Hamilton. Hes the complete package, single lap pace, race pace and management. Plus hes a great racer, contact with albon is an outlier there.

Max is really close, it's just hard to say definitively because the merc is so much stronger. That said what hes doing to Albon has to be demoralizing, did the same thing to gasley if not a more thorough beating.

But yeah the midfield is great, not sure who has the third best car yet which is great. It's either mclaren, racing point or ferrari. It's going to be fun to watch that shake out. My money is on McLaren. I just think they have the best overall driver lineup with very tight margins, I think it will be the difference. Seb just cant get a feel for this car, and leclerc, podium aside isnt doing much better. I guess having said that it's either racing point or McLaren then. Ferrari does have the resources to develop the car the other two dont howver
 
May 18, 2013
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That was the most eventful race I’ve seen in a while.
Last few laps. And some pretty big crashes.

Honestly the racing has been quite good if you ignore Mercedes for quite some time now. I'd say it's better now that ferrari has cemented themselves firmly in the midfield. Every week those guys are racing hard.

Next week has to be a guaranteed 2 stop race which could help. At the end of the broadcast I heard it mentioned it's supposed to be hotter so maybe even a third stop could be in the cards with softer compounds in use
 
Jun 5, 2013
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Last few laps. And some pretty big crashes.

Honestly the racing has been quite good if you ignore Mercedes for quite some time now. I'd say it's better now that ferrari has cemented themselves firmly in the midfield. Every week those guys are racing hard.

Next week has to be a guaranteed 2 stop race which could help. At the end of the broadcast I heard it mentioned it's supposed to be hotter so maybe even a third stop could be in the cards with softer compounds in use
The last two or three laps were insane. I had a gut feeling that Hamilton’s tyres wouldn’t last after Bottas’ failed.....but on the last lap, after Max pitted wast insane.

Nice to see Norris, and McLaren doing well too.
 
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The last two or three laps were insane. I had a gut feeling that Hamilton’s tyres wouldn’t last after Bottas’ failed.....but on the last lap, after Max pitted wast insane.

Nice to see Norris, and McLaren doing well too.
I didnt see that coming to be honest but I still wouldnt have pitted. It's going to take some strange happenings for the bonus points to work for max so may as well not bother and see if hamiltons tires fail. I just figured with bottas gone lewis could take it down to half speed, but apparently it wasnt enough. Which I suppose is the call they made, not bad really, just cost them a win.

McLaren is my team so yeah, great to see them running up front again. They have the IndyCar program strong as well with 2 very young drivers. zach brown has righted the ship for sure.
 
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I didnt see that coming to be honest but I still wouldnt have pitted. It's going to take some strange happenings for the bonus points to work for max so may as well not bother and see if hamiltons tires fail. I just figured with bottas gone lewis could take it down to half speed, but apparently it wasnt enough. Which I suppose is the call they made, not bad really, just cost them a win.

McLaren is my team so yeah, great to see them running up front again. They have the IndyCar program strong as well with 2 very young drivers. zach brown has righted the ship for sure.
Well, it was a certain 2nd place and an extra point but only if he got fresh rubber, so I sort of understand the motive.The extra point probably won’t give him the championship but they’ve been won by one point by Hunt, Schumacher, Hamilton and Raikkonen and Lauda beat Prost by half a point.
Hindsight is wonderful.

Never really watched Indycar. Didn’t Alonso have a crack at that?
 
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I wander what caused the threat problems.

Bottas, Hamilton and Sainz all had similar blow outs. Stroll was complaining about vibration wasn’t he? Kvyat spun because of a blow out, though maybe he hit some debri on the track.

was glad to see Riccardo up there as well.
 
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Well, it was a certain 2nd place and an extra point but only if he got fresh rubber, so I sort of understand the motive.The extra point probably won’t give him the championship but they’ve been won by one point by Hunt, Schumacher, Hamilton and Raikkonen and Lauda beat Prost by half a point.
Hindsight is wonderful.

Never really watched Indycar. Didn’t Alonso have a crack at that?
Yeah. He ran the 500 a couple of years ago. Jenson button was set to run some races this year as well before the pandemic as well, but not any ovals. Alonso will be running the 500 again in a few weeks as well

Max is taking a distant third in the championship. I know hes only 6 points behind bottas right now but I just dont see him beating him consistently enough to take second. Second in the constructors is a virtual lock. But yeah, like I said not a bad call, I just probably roll the dice.
 
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I wander what caused the threat problems.

Bottas, Hamilton and Sainz all had similar blow outs. Stroll was complaining about vibration wasn’t he? Kvyat spun because of a blow out, though maybe he hit some debri on the track.

was glad to see Riccardo up there as well.
They were on those hard tires for a very long time due to the safety car timing. Silverstone isnt Barcelona hard on tires but it is a track with a lot of fast right handers so the loads through the tires are very high
 
May 22, 2013
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They were on those hard tires for a very long time due to the safety car timing. Silverstone isnt Barcelona hard on tires but it is a track with a lot of fast right handers so the loads through the tires are very high
fair enough.

Im still learning this whole F1 business.
Tyre management seems about 85-90% of the race
 
May 22, 2013
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And it’s a damn shame that’s the case. More racing is what we need, not babysitting tyres.
Agreed.
As I’ve been watching this year with Hamilton and Bottas so far in front it irritates the shit out of me when you here they are being powered down and told to coast to the win.

Screw that! Give them all the power, let them go HAM and let’s see just how quick these laps can be done!!

With the gaps they are putting between themselves and everyone they might even get far enough ahead to be able to stop more times for tyres anyway.
 
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Come to think of it. Pit stops are such a big thing. They should do something to restructure them.

Surely there has got to be some way cars can put without it having to be all calculated out with them saving their tyres for X amounts of laps and stuff. So they can just race hard, pull in for a few secs get some new rubber and get going again!
 
May 18, 2013
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Management of tires and fuel have always been apart of the game.

If you didnt give them a tire that fell off there would probably be less racing to be honest. Cars would get away and run their pace whatever that may be to the finish. The best races usually are a result of rain or a situation in which you have high tire degradation.

Refueling may help now with the tires designed to fall off. Last time refueling was a thing there was a tire war, so the tires were extremely durable. There was almost no on track overtakes as it was all done on strategy. I dont think refueling is necessary though.

Maybe give them a tire that falls off more. If you could hit a sweet spot where a two stop race running two stints on softs would equal the time of a 1 stop race for medium's and hards it may mix things up a bit


Having said that I think the racing has been excellent this year. No one is touching mercedes and max is way better than albon. So if nothing weird happens the two mercs will disappear, with bottas going well enough to beat ham on a given weekend occasionally. Max is going to cruise around in third by himself. But behind that the scraps have been as good as ever imo.

Perhaps the financial regulations will tighten things up. But in the end the cream will rise to the top.

Unless you are willing to deploy more safety cars and close the pits during a safety car you simply arent going to mix up the field to the point where you have some real surprise winners.

IndyCar does that, I like it there as it really throws a wrench in strategies.

For example you can run long on hot tires and light fuel to pull off and over cut. But you risk being caught out by a yellow, pitting under the yellow and losing all your track position when the field stacks up behind the safety car.

It works there because it's a mostly spec series. Plenty of people hate it, I dont because it's different.

F1 on the other hand is a pure engineering competition, the best car that executes their race the best should win. It just so happens the best team is 20 seconds clear of their nearest rival.