Frank Lays Out His Terms For Crolla V Flanagan

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Very clever from Wazza, he knows the fight can't be made for a variety of reasons but he has publicly backed Hearn into a corner by at least appearing to agree to all the concessions.
 

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Very clever from Wazza, he knows the fight can't be made for a variety of reasons but he has publicly backed Hearn into a corner by at least appearing to agree to all the concessions.
Normally we get the fighters sitting behind chairs with Johnny Nelson, fuck that Hearn v Warren.
 

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There's a quote a minute with Frank.
Love the 'None of that sitting in a sauna with his old man' when he's on about Khan fighting at a higher weight. The whole world has forgot about the Lee Purdy tale, but not Frank

Also the 'we offered Hearn 600 grand for Brook v Liam Smith.

And is rant about Nick Halling at the end, pure gold.
 

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I can't help but back Frank. Think it's that old rooting for the underdog*, imagine if Hearn had tried the same IBO, WBU bollocks that he loved way back when - and his beloved WBO only seen as better than those two in the last decade.

50:50 ain't happening. Crolla is the A side, he and Matchroom bring more to the table.

* And by underdog, I mean multi millionaire with country pile and backing of british steel magnet to the tune of 2/3 million a year.
 
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He wants the revenue for the fight to be split 50/50. So Hearn will have to pay his fighter 3x as much, from the same amount of money as Warren has to pay Flanagan.

Thats where the BS is in Warrens offer. Add to that, Matchroom will be bringing vastly more revenue to the table.
 
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The funniest bit in the interview(other then him decimating Halling) was when Kugan asked him about the Fury tickets on stubhub and he straight away got annoyed and said I`m not the promoter ask the promoter,Kugan was on thin ice there:lol:
 
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Absolutely no excuses for this fight not to happen now, the single biggest obstacle in the TV situation has been removed. If it doesn't happen it's because one or both of Eddie Hearn and Joe Gallagher don't want the fight.
 
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Absolutely no excuses for this fight not to happen now, the single biggest obstacle in the TV situation has been removed. If it doesn't happen it's because one or both of Eddie Hearn and Joe Gallagher don't want the fight.
Except for the fact Warren is demanding a 50/50 split.
 
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Absolutely no excuses for this fight not to happen now, the single biggest obstacle in the TV situation has been removed. If it doesn't happen it's because one or both of Eddie Hearn and Joe Gallagher don't want the fight.
Does @Rob not make some good points about revenue expectations and splits which in real terms means Wazza would make more from this co promotion then Eddie which doesn`t make this generous offer as generous or likely for Hearn to accept or is he talking bollocks and your man is being reasonable.
 
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Except for the fact Warren is demanding a 50/50 split.
Yeah of the revenue of this "co-promotion"(in real terms sky and matchroom will be the ones that can actually promote the fight to the masses imo) would be split between promoters with them then sorting out the purses for the fighters as you said earlier that's not going to work for obvious reasons.
 
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Does @Rob not make some good points about revenue expectations and splits which in real terms means Wazza would make more from this co promotion then Eddie which doesn`t make this generous offer as generous or likely for Hearn to accept or is he talking bollocks and your man is being reasonable.
What's he said? Got him on ignore so I haven't seen any of it. I presume he's banging on about the 50/50 split, in which case how much ground are they expected to give? They've already said it can be on Sky, if Hearn's ego means he needs the bigger split then give him 51/49, or an old favourite of his, 60/40 to the winner. How much each promoter makes depends on how much they pay their fighters, considering that Frampton-Quigg ended up a 60/40 split at the most I'd say 50/50 is fair given that it would be on Sky, with it maybe slightly balanced in Hearn's favour for ego boosting purposes.
 
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Does @Rob not make some good points about revenue expectations and splits which in real terms means Wazza would make more from this co promotion then Eddie which doesn`t make this generous offer as generous or likely for Hearn to accept or is he talking bollocks and your man is being reasonable.
exactly. Warren also said in his interview he would be prepared to let Matchroom own the promotion and now he seems to have retracted that.

If Warren came out and said "We would accept 30% of the split of the purse" and he just takes his promoters fee, thats putting the ball into Hearns court.
 
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What's he said? Got him on ignore so I haven't seen any of it. I presume he's banging on about the 50/50 split, in which case how much ground are they expected to give? They've already said it can be on Sky, if Hearn's ego means he needs the bigger split then give him 51/49, or an old favourite of his, 60/40 to the winner. How much each promoter makes depends on how much they pay their fighters, considering that Frampton-Quigg ended up a 60/40 split at the most I'd say 50/50 is fair given that it would be on Sky, with it maybe slightly balanced in Hearn's favour for ego boosting purposes.
Its nothing to do with Ego ffs! Hearn/Crolla bring vastly more than 50% to the table.

Crolla is going to get paid more than Flanagan....we all know this!
 
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What's he said? Got him on ignore so I haven't seen any of it. I presume he's banging on about the 50/50 split, in which case how much ground are they expected to give? They've already said it can be on Sky, if Hearn's ego means he needs the bigger split then give him 51/49, or an old favourite of his, 60/40 to the winner. How much each promoter makes depends on how much they pay their fighters, considering that Frampton-Quigg ended up a 60/40 split at the most I'd say 50/50 is fair given that it would be on Sky, with it maybe slightly balanced in Hearn's favour for ego boosting purposes.
Wouldn`t Eddie say that team Crolla bring the most money to the table by being a bigger name that they bring Sky sports ppv and as you say the money the promoters make will depend on how much they pay there fighters but Crolla and Gallagher will be wanting and expecting a higher figure then Flanagan would expect which of course would be eddies problem,I don`t see Hearn accepting these terms maybe 60-40 but not this deal as it stand I`m not saying he`s right but that's how I see it.
 
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Its nothing to do with Ego ffs! Hearn/Crolla bring vastly more than 50% to the table.

Crolla is going to get paid more than Flanagan....we all know this!
I think 60-40 is fair, 'this fight doesnt get made without each other' is the line we constantly hear from you when a Hearn fighter is the B side so the same applies here.
 
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I also think they might try to ignore Flanagen and make another unification fight instead which could earn Crolla good money,I don`t think this happens yet,
 
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Wouldn`t Eddie say that team Crolla bring the most money to the table by being a bigger name that they bring Sky sports ppv and as you say the money the promoters make will depend on how much they pay there fighters but Crolla and Gallagher will be wanting and expecting a higher figure then Flanagan would expect which of course would be eddies problem,I don`t see Hearn accepting these terms maybe 60-40 but not this deal as it stand I`m not saying he`s right but that's how I see it.
The fight brings the money to the table, it's not like Crolla's been packing out the arena, same goes for Flanagan and neither will without fighting each other. They don't bring PPV, Sky do and the only reason it would be going ahead on there is because one side has agreed to go over to the others channel to make the fight happen.

If that's how he wants to play it then he can take the blame for the most obvious fight ever not happening, same goes for Gallagher and Crolla if they start making ridiculous demands. Gallagher should shut his trap and stay out of it, he's the trainer, Crolla's manager and promoter can sort out the opponent and money, once that's done he can do his job.

Flanagan and Warren have given major ground to them in the negotiations by allowing it to take place on Sky, maybe they'll need to give a little back on the financial side, can't expect to have it entirely on their own terms.