FRANK WARREN TALKS ABOUT OFFERS TO MATCHROOM, BARRY HEARN & EDDIE HEARN (INTERVIEW - PART 2)

dftaylor

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Hearn had very little to do with the Haye PPV. Has he ever regularly promoted Harrison? It's entirely different when you're talking about Warren PPVs.

Blame Sky for that one happening, not Haye and certainly not Hearn. What is he meant to do? Say "nah, you're alright" when a massive opportunity comes his way?
Hearn was instrumental in pushing Sky to demand that fight from Haye. He carries a fair share of the weight and made a nice chunk of cash as a result. But don't let that get in the way of your gigantic crush.
 
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Rob

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There are several people on ESB and on here that are just like you.

Oh I forgot! They ARE you.

How many accounts are you gonna limit yourself to on here Rob? 10?

I am not craney, if you must know I had the same username on ESB as on here, I just didnt post that much at all because of how the forum went, but I checked it daily. Mainly because of pricks like that craney on the British forum. So I left and came here which seems better. Then I heard craney had been perma-banned shortly after I came here, but to be honest the whole forum had died at that point, so I aint going back to it. Hopefully pricks like him dont turn up on this forum, but TBH mate I think they are already here. I'm talking with one right now.
1 account on here. Always has been always will be....and I never once his my identity unlike most people on here.

What name did you post under on ESB?
 

Jack

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Of the cards he's put on this year..

Frampton-Martinez was top notch for a domestic card IMO.

Barker card was utter shite.

Bellew-Chilemba was good, the only fight on the card that disappointed was the main event but thats not really Hearns fault, at least it was competitive.Crolla-Matthews II was good, so was Fielding-Reed and Dickens-Fernandes, Yafai also in decent scrap.

Rose-Alcine was an ok card, nothing more. Main event was 50-50 but was boring, Rose isn't a main event fighter. Clarke-Askin and Cardle-Hughes were competitive.

Burns-Gonzalez was really good. Choi-Simpson was quality and Burns-Gonzalez was good.

Froch-Kessler was a huge event and a quality fight, shocking undercard, but I was watching CL final anyway.

Recent Bolton card delivered two of the best domestic fights this year in Rees-Crolla and Smith-Dodson.

It's only the odd card and Prizefighter that's letting him down IMO. When it comes to normal card he more often then not delivers.
Very good post, mate.

I can't understand where people are coming from when they criticise Hearn's cards. Compare the ones you listed to the Warren shows this year. The undercard for Gavin/Vassell and Gavin/Welborn was terrible. The Cleverly/Krasniqi card was headlined by a mismatch and only had one slightly intriguing fight on the undercard, in Walsh/Harrison, which was hardly competitive itself.

Look at the horrendous DeGale/Bozic card. I bet not one of the undercards in the main fights would be given a 20/1 shot. Three absolutely horrible fights headlining that card, yet Hennessy doesn't get an ounce of the stick Hearn does. Why? After all, he has the biggest platform because he's on national TV so surely he should want to put on the best shows? The Fury/Johnson card was a joke too.

I genuinely don't think Hearn puts on bad shows. He just doesn't. They're a similar set up to the Top Rank and Golden Boy shows, where you have a good main event, a good co-main and then a couple of filler bouts on the udnercard, usually with prospects. That's fine by me, I don't expect any more than Hearn, I just don't want the absolutely shite which plagues British boxing from the likes of Warren and Hennessy.
 

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Hearn was instrumental in pushing Sky to demand that fight from Haye. He carries a fair share of the weight and made a nice chunk of cash as a result. But don't let that get in the way of your gigantic crush.
Hearn wasn't in a position to push for anything. Sky wanted the fight to happen, so it did. Saying otherwise is just bullshit.
 

dftaylor

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Hearn wasn't in a position to push for anything. Sky wanted the fight to happen, so it did. Saying otherwise is just bullshit.
You clearly don't remember the history. Haye beats Ruiz and starts the call for the Wlad fight. All of a sudden, Matchroom starts putting out press releases that Haye is ignoring an offer for the Harrison fight. Most people dismiss it as nonsense and then Sky starts talking about the grudge between the two. And throughout, Hearn is in the press, putting out statements and pushing the fight.

So at what point did he NOT have a hand in pushing Sky to make that fight?

I know it hurts to realise Eddie's not the white knight you hoped for.
 

Jack

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You clearly don't remember the history. Haye beats Ruiz and starts the call for the Wlad fight. All of a sudden, Matchroom starts putting out press releases that Haye is ignoring an offer for the Harrison fight. Most people dismiss it as nonsense and then Sky starts talking about the grudge between the two. And throughout, Hearn is in the press, putting out statements and pushing the fight.

So at what point did he NOT have a hand in pushing Sky to make that fight?

I know it hurts to realise Eddie's not the white knight you hoped for.
Of course Hearn wanted the fight. Who wouldn't? It's a promoters job to get the biggest fights possible for his fighters. Are you suggesting it's a bad thing that Hearn got fucking Audley Harrison a world title shot? If Hearn could get Lee Purdy a fight with Mayweather, he would, and it'd be the absolute right thing to do for his fighter.

The fault for the fight being on PPV is Sky's and, to a elsser extent, Haye's. That fight shouldn't have been PPV and you could argue it shouldn't have happened at all. Does Hearn deserve criticism for that though? No. He just did his job as a promoter.
 

dftaylor

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Of course Hearn wanted the fight. Who wouldn't? It's a promoters job to get the biggest fights possible for his fighters. Are you suggesting it's a bad thing that Hearn got fucking Audley Harrison a world title shot? If Hearn could get Lee Purdy a fight with Mayweather, he would, and it'd be the absolute right thing to do for his fighter.

The fault for the fight being on PPV is Sky's and, to a elsser extent, Haye's. That fight shouldn't have been PPV and you could argue it shouldn't have happened at all. Does Hearn deserve criticism for that though? No. He just did his job as a promoter.
You're being a bit selective in your blame. So, it was wrong for Haye to make a huge sum of money for himself, his family and his team, but ok for Hearn to do it for Harrison?

My whole point is don't hold Hearn in some special esteem. He's just like every other promoter when it comes down to it.
 
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You're being a bit selective in your blame. So, it was wrong for Haye to make a huge sum of money for himself, his family and his team, but ok for Hearn to do it for Harrison?

My whole point is don't hold Hearn in some special esteem. He's just like every other promoter when it comes down to it.
Except in the UK he does a better job.
 
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Being the best of a truly pitiful bunch is like being the only virgin in a room full of prostitutes.
I would say a better analogy would be the only one that doesn't offer anal and water sports......not as much of a slag but still is one!
 

Jack

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You're being a bit selective in your blame. So, it was wrong for Haye to make a huge sum of money for himself, his family and his team, but ok for Hearn to do it for Harrison?

My whole point is don't hold Hearn in some special esteem. He's just like every other promoter when it comes down to it.
Haye was in a position where he could have made much better fights than the Harrison one, so it's completely different. Like I said, if Hearn was offered a Mayweather fight for Purdy, he should take it because it's a fantastic opportunity for his fighter. Purdy would deserve no criticism for taking a bout whereas Mayweather would face enormous criticism for offering it.

To be fair though, I don't think Haye was the driving force behind the PPV either. Sky knew it'd sell, so they probably insisted on PPV. They're the ones who make the final call on PPV or not, so they should be criticised, not Haye and definitely not Hearn.