Fury WIlder 3

Jrome412

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Dont see anybody talking about this but who you think will win this one?

I got Fury by tko, Wilder learned nothing from that second fight and is just full of excuses, AJ at least went to the drawing board and made his improvements.
 
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UFC commercials have been talking about Fury/Joshua, though... Here I thought they were in line to fight next or something. As for the question, undoubtedly Fury. Easily, he won both fights. Weirdly enough, Fury got caught a few times by Wilder in their second fight. Fury handled it far better than last fight. Fury is one of the only HW's where it benefits him to come in fat.
 

Jrome412

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UFC commercials have been talking about Fury/Joshua, though... Here I thought they were in line to fight next or something. As for the question, undoubtedly Fury. Easily, he won both fights. Weirdly enough, Fury got caught a few times by Wilder in their second fight. Fury handled it far better than last fight. Fury is one of the only HW's where it benefits him to come in fat.
Fury wasnt fat tho, that dude just got BIG, if anything he was fat in the first fight just smaller and not solid
 
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Fury wasnt fat tho, that dude just got BIG, if anything he was fat in the first fight just smaller and not solid
I have to wonder the Fury that fought Klitschko how great he was that night. Was in monstrously good shape.
 

Jrome412

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I have to wonder the Fury that fought Klitschko how great he was that night. Was in monstrously good shape.
I think he is even better now, older, smarter and still only 31

Let me just say also I think AJ is gonna do some shit in this sport as well, he took that loss like a man and did what he needed to do
 
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I think he is even better now, older, smarter and still only 31

Let me just say also I think AJ is gonna do some shit in this sport as well, he took that loss like a man and did what he needed to do
That Klitschko win is ridiculously underrated. Meh, I had Joshua picked to win the rematch the way he did, but it left a bad taste in my mouth. Ran from Ruiz Jr. for 12 rounds.
 
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Fury wins. Wilder always has a punchers chance though.
Same thought here. Fury showed he figured out Wilder in their second fight and was in control from the beginning to the end. Wilder's chance, like you mentioned is a punchers chance, and it is a valid one for a guy who hits so hard. However, he has to get close enough to hit him, and in doing so, he opens himself up for counters from Fury.

I can see Wilder getting stopped again since that leopard can't change his spots at this point in his career. I'm just wondering what his excuse/excuses will be when all is said and done.
 
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tco

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Call it playing the devils advocate if you like but here goes.

AJ reinvented himself to avenge his loss to Ruiz and Fury reinvented himself to dominate Wilder in their rematch.

If AJ and Fury can reinvent themselves to overturn results why can't Wilder?
 
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Call it playing the devils advocate if you like but here goes.

AJ reinvented himself to avenge his loss to Ruiz and Fury reinvented himself to dominate Wilder in their rematch.

If AJ and Fury can reinvent themselves to overturn results why can't Wilder?

I watched their second fight again last night for only the 2nd time and Wilder was beaten from pillar to post in every round. He never had Fury in any trouble or showing signs of not knowing what he was going to do. Fury simply mauled Wilder into submission with much sharper punches, better boxing technique, using his size advantage to wear the lighter man down and having fun while doing it. The only head movement Wilder showed was when his head was getting hit by Fury or pulling straight back when Fury advanced. Fury used that weird herky-jerky upper body movement to slip punches and set up his own, for which Wilder had no real answer.

Wilder's air of invincibility vanished with that very first knockdown and he got up a confused fighter, not knowing how to handle what was being done to him. That won't change in the amount of time between that fight and the next-------whenever it happens. Wilder simply is not that smart.


And to add to this:

AJ probably took the first Ruiz fight too lightly when he looked at his upcoming opponent and saw someone more suited for Sumo than boxing and probably though it was going to be easy. He ran into a guy who had a granite chin and some pop to his punches and suffered an embarrassing loss. He revamped his training to simply move and box the ears off the guy and it paid off since Ruiz couldn't hit him and came into the second fight even fatter than the first.

Fury got knocked down and went down hard in the 12th from a massive blow, but still got up and finished the fight on his feet. He knew he outboxed Wilder and should have gotten the nod, but those 2 knockdowns seemed to mean a lot to the judges that ended the fight in a draw. So, Fury knows he can take Wilder's best shot and get up, so why not simply chase the guy around the ring, use his size advantage and wear the guy out-------and that's just what he did.

Now for Wilder, he is woefully lacking in boxing skill, has lousy footwork, pretty porous defense with the hands down, has no real inside boxing game and relies on that haymaker of a right to win his fights for him. Once that is negated, he's done.
 
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tco

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You make some good points there. But as much as another convincing Fury win is the most logical outcome I wouldn't completely write Wilder off. His power is astonishing and he went within a whisker of stopping Fury in the first fight.
 
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You make some good points there. But as much as another convincing Fury win is the most logical outcome I wouldn't completely write Wilder off. His power is astonishing and he went within a whisker of stopping Fury in the first fight.
That'd be why he had a punchers chance.
 

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If Fury shows up fat, then don't be surprised if Wilder pulled a Bonecrusher Smith-Tim Witherspoon II first round TKO here, ESPECIALLY if this is in an empty arena match where Fury isn't as motivated
Fury needs to stay tidy the whole 36 minutes.
 
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Never underestimate Wilder's stupidity.

This.

I was of course a LONG-time Wilder supporter, but even I have given up hope at this point. He'll always have that equalizer, but the chances of him ever improving further, or learning from his mistakes, is looking very dim. The lad just 'ain't very smart, and his ego is bigger than all of Alabama.
 
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