Golovkin leaves Sanchez

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https://www.boxingscene.com/abel-sanchez-greedy-golovkin-offered-me-fifth-normal-pay--138341

Now it appears that Sanchez has a right to feel the way he did. He was getting the industry standard 10% as head trainer, then Golovkin wanted him to take less than that following his six fight $100 million dollar contract...

They didn't really seem to be in sync for the Canelo rematch. Imo GGG fought the wrong fight and gave up some early rounds. Golovkin could have left more in the ring and done better that night imho.
 
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https://www.boxingscene.com/abel-sanchez-greedy-golovkin-offered-me-fifth-normal-pay--138341

Now it appears that Sanchez has a right to feel the way he did. He was getting the industry standard 10% as head trainer, then Golovkin wanted him to take less than that following his six fight $100 million dollar contract...

They didn't really seem to be in sync for the Canelo rematch. Imo GGG fought the wrong fight and gave up some early rounds. Golovkin could have left more in the ring and done better that night imho.
I'm confused by these contracts. Where is all this money coming from? $100 million for six fights, a 37 year old on the slide? These seem like poor investments.
 
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https://www.boxingscene.com/abel-sanchez-greedy-golovkin-offered-me-fifth-normal-pay--138341

Now it appears that Sanchez has a right to feel the way he did. He was getting the industry standard 10% as head trainer, then Golovkin wanted him to take less than that following his six fight $100 million dollar contract...

They didn't really seem to be in sync for the Canelo rematch. Imo GGG fought the wrong fight and gave up some early rounds. Golovkin could have left more in the ring and done better that night imho.
Nah that's bullshit. None of the top fighters give 10% of their purse, that's stupid. They all have a flat fee. Even Manny had a flat fee with Roach even though Roach insists on getting 10% from everyone else. Floyd caps him own uncle too. it doesn't make sense to pay someone 10 million dollars to hold your pads and give you some advice when your the one taken brain damage, regardless of how close you are.

From what I heard, Triple G offered him more money but less percentage wise and Abel isn't happy about it. But you know what, Fuck Abel, I knew Gennady was gonna drop his dumb ass after the Canelo rematch from the way the dude was gushing and praising Canelo. Plus I've always said Abel was the wrong trainer for GGG, Golovkin was a boxer puncher in the amateurs who also liked to counter but Abel tried to turn him into Chavez which was stupid imo.
 
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Don't know he will go for 2% pay, if what Abel was saying is correct.
100 mill/ 6 = 16.67 million

let's round that down to 16 million.

2% of 16 millions is 320 grand. That's a nice return for a 10-12 week camp. Anyone who says otherwise can fuck off with their delusions of loyalty, fighters take the risk, fighters put their health on the line, fighters put the majority of the work in camp, fighters have short primes and fighters get fucked over with contracts the most.

Anyone ranting about loyalty needs to remember how trainers abandon their fighters the minute they get a big payday opportunity themselves.
Remember how Roach bailed on Pacquiao so he could train Oscar? Yeah so fuck all this loyalty talk. Boxing is a business.
 
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Nah that's bullshit. None of the top fighters give 10% of their purse, that's stupid. They all have a flat fee. Even Manny had a flat fee with Roach even though Roach insists on getting 10% from everyone else. Floyd caps him own uncle too. it doesn't make sense to pay someone 10 million dollars to hold your pads and give you some advice when your the one taken brain damage, regardless of how close you are.

From what I heard, Triple G offered him more money but less percentage wise and Abel isn't happy about it. But you know what, Fuck Abel, I knew Gennady was gonna drop his dumb ass after the Canelo rematch from the way the dude was gushing and praising Canelo. Plus I've always said Abel was the wrong trainer for GGG, Golovkin was a boxer puncher in the amateurs who also liked to counter but Abel tried to turn him into Chavez which was stupid imo.
I saw Golovkin countering Canelo and never heard Abel tell him not to. I've also never seen the wrong trainer make a fighter look so good for ten years.

100 mill/ 6 = 16.67 million

let's round that down to 16 million.

2% of 16 millions is 320 grand. That's a nice return for a 10-12 week camp. Anyone who says otherwise can fuck off with their delusions of loyalty, fighters take the risk, fighters put their health on the line, fighters put the majority of the work in camp, fighters have short primes and fighters get fucked over with contracts the most.

Anyone ranting about loyalty needs to remember how trainers abandon their fighters the minute they get a big payday opportunity themselves.
Remember how Roach bailed on Pacquiao so he could train Oscar? Yeah so fuck all this loyalty talk. Boxing is a business.
Not sure what you are talking about here. Roach was in Pacman's corner when they fought I can't recall him ditching Pacman just to train Oscar.

Fighters are the ones in the ring, but they don't stand alone.

He's been with Golovkin for over ten years and never been close to losing other than against the best of the best (Canelo). I'd argue he beat Canelo in the first. So stop with "fighters this", "fighters that", Abel setup camp for ten years and he wouldn't be where he is at without him. So I get where Sanchez is coming from. Your fighter signs a $100 million dollar contract and the pay isn't right. Like I said he wouldn't have earned that contract without the mentoring from Abel. These are just facts it's irrelevant if you think he could have done it with someone else because he didn't.

We can't fault Abel for his stance. He said it was a pay cut, but actually sounds like Golovkin wanted to pay him about the same or slightly more after the $100 million dollar contract :lol: GGG wasn't even willing to negotiate with the man he depend on for the past ten years.

I find the whole situation disappointing.
 
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I can't really comment on the legitimacy of Sanchez grievance as I haven't been privy to the negotiations.

However there is a slightly petulant tonality to his statement, which is disappointing from an established trainer.
 
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No elite level fighter with a long amateur record really needs a trainer. Roy Jones was with that Alton Merkerson guy for most of his career, that doesn’t make him a good coach.
 
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I don't really understand this whole Sanchez ruined Golovkin. Golovkin went on to have razor close fights with the 2 best of the division in Jacobs and Canelo. He shook up the boxing world with his aggressive, casual-friendly style. I don't think he'd have the star power without his "Mexican, big drama show style."

It's not like he was losing to total bums. I thought he beat Canelo twice too. I had him losing the Jacobs fight, though, but it was razor close. Sanchez is a good trainer.
 

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'Straya, cunt.
I don't really understand this whole Sanchez ruined Golovkin. Golovkin went on to have razor close fights with the 2 best of the division in Jacobs and Canelo. He shook up the boxing world with his aggressive, casual-friendly style. I don't think he'd have the star power without his "Mexican, big drama show style."

It's not like he was losing to total bums. I thought he beat Canelo twice too. I had him losing the Jacobs fight, though, but it was razor close. Sanchez is a good trainer.
He didn’t “ruin” him, but they did exploit his power and chin to make him an exciting banger when he had superb ring craft, excellent control of the ring and fantastic body shots.
 
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He didn’t “ruin” him, but they did exploit his power and chin to make him an exciting banger when he had superb ring craft, excellent control of the ring and fantastic body shots.
I think he still does, though. He cuts off the ring with precision, has a razor-sharp jab, and his body shots are still deadly. I thought he did very well in the Canelo rematch fighting off the jab and going on the backfoot. Sanchez crafted a p4p fighter. I mean Golovkin's ring generalship is amazing.

I think if he was losing to someone like Monroe Jr., then I can see the point.
 
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Looking back when it's all said and done, Golovkin is going to have a huge "what if" career. Abel said a lot of stuff and ultimately a lot of hate or criticism towards GGG is directly attributed to Abel and the things he's said/done and the fights that didn't seem to happen, partly, at least, because of him. And Sanchez didn't necessarily "ruin" Gennady, but I think as his career has played out, for those that have watched him for so long and saw how he was before Abel, his style was overly emphasized on power and aggression, when he could've been fine tuned into a much more effective boxer-puncher. His power was always going to be there no matter what, that much was evident early on in his career. A better approach would have been to work on counter-punching/slipping punches, which is something Golovkin was actually fairly good at. The whole "we don't adjust to our opponents, they adjust to us" and "we don't study tape" is and was always bullshit. I never understood why you wouldn't want to find every weakness/tendency your opponent has and build a game plan around that. All Golovkin needed was a competent promoter and a move to the states and he was going to be a star. Sanchez just so happened to have him essentially fall in his lap. And Abel getting upset at Gennady for not following his "plan" in the second fight is misplaced too. If it wasn't for Gennady boxing the way he did in the 2nd half of the fight, he wouldn't have turned things around the way he did. All in all, it's probably for the better that Golovkin left him. Quite a few guys have left him over the years and enough of his fighters, as of late, have looked rather amateur and rudimentary. Might have been wise to pick up the cues the past several years. And also, just for the sake of it, the notion that Golovkin threw only 6 body shots in the second fight isn't true. There might be more but I've counted at least 11 and that's not even watching the whole fight over again.
 
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People move on. Sanchez needs to let it go.
We do. We may not know the truth for some time if at all.

I wonder if Golovkin low balled him on purpose or they had a disagreement about pay and had a falling out. Has to be one or the other.