Hafthor Bjornsson AKA The Mountain's quest to 500kg deadlift?

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Eddie is a big guy who moves well for his size but his balance while moving is bad and center of gravity is all over the place because of his huge midsection.

Yeah, but as bad as Eddie looked sparring in that clip, I saw a couple clips of Thor and he hasn't a clue. He boxes southpaw and that could be a plus, but he crosses over his feet as he tries to get close to his opponent, throws with no snap or power from the floor up with nothing more than arm punches. He is also wide open for counters from what I saw.

His big plus is his sheer size, but if I had to pick a winner between the two from what I saw in those few clips, I'd have to go with Eddie.

Either way, it won't be pretty.
 
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I love watching Strongest Man Christmas but to me as much as I like Hafthor he will break down in the ring.

The injuries he has sustained and also he has Bells Palsy doesn't he ? I am no medicaal expert but that comes under Neurology. Sadly he is like David Haye something will give.

I am a big fan of Licis great all rounder. And year after year the improvements he has made have been staggering.
 
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They are both playing around though so hard to really judge much..

One might be going 30% and the other 10%.
One thing you can tell though is just doing that little pity pat bullshit he is exhausted at the end.
Oh for sure I don't think you can take anything from any of the footage about really, it'll likely look like a sloppy white color fight and be a case of who gasses first
 

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Show dem balls bro
They are both playing around though so hard to really judge much..

One might be going 30% and the other 10%.
One thing you can tell though is just doing that little pity pat bullshit he is exhausted at the end.

The thing about this is all of us who've been gym rats anytime in their lives, especially bigger gyms in bigger cities all know there's that great equalizer. Have seen many big heavyweight football players or wrestlers come to the gym thinking they were going to roll through everyone but the first time they actually spar with a light heavy who has trained for years and get clipped on the chin they realize size don't mean shit when it comes to having your nerves shocked into thinking your blood pressure is so high that your brain shuts your body down and you get KTFO. Not saying it would happen, but without a documented fighting history showing the ability to take hard punches to the chin over and over I don't think that anyone can say anyone else would be able to overcome either multiple or one monster shot timed and placed just right.
 

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The thing about this is all of us who've been gym rats anytime in their lives, especially bigger gyms in bigger cities all know there's that great equalizer. Have seen many big heavyweight football players or wrestlers come to the gym thinking they were going to roll through everyone but the first time they actually spar with a light heavy who has trained for years and get clipped on the chin they realize size don't mean shit when it comes to having your nerves shocked into thinking your blood pressure is so high that your brain shuts your body down and you get KTFO. Not saying it would happen, but without a documented fighting history showing the ability to take hard punches to the chin over and over I don't think that anyone can say anyone else would be able to overcome either multiple or one monster shot timed and placed just right.
I posted video of myself sparring a guy a good bit bigger than me awhile back.

He had been doing boxing work outs on and off for 3 years when that video was done.

But when I first sparred him 3 years ago he had only been training for I think 6 months and had only sparred 5 times (at a mma gym).


But he was extremely easy work...

Couple of times I touched him he literally turned away....super slow...and punches had zero snap

But the guy had a bench press well over 400 pounds (compared to mine of maybe 260) and a 730 pound deadlift.


And I'm not that great and haven't been in fight shape in 15 years....
 
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The thing about this is all of us who've been gym rats anytime in their lives, especially bigger gyms in bigger cities all know there's that great equalizer. Have seen many big heavyweight football players or wrestlers come to the gym thinking they were going to roll through everyone but the first time they actually spar with a light heavy who has trained for years and get clipped on the chin they realize size don't mean shit when it comes to having your nerves shocked into thinking your blood pressure is so high that your brain shuts your body down and you get KTFO. Not saying it would happen, but without a documented fighting history showing the ability to take hard punches to the chin over and over I don't think that anyone can say anyone else would be able to overcome either multiple or one monster shot timed and placed just right.
Yup.

It comes down to two questions:

1) Can the bog guy get hold of the little guy?

2) Can the little guy spark him before he does by landing flush?
 
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Johnstown

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Yup.

It comes down to two questions:

1) Can the bog guy get hold of the little guy?

2) Can the little guy spark him before he does by landing flush?
Getting ahold though doesn't always win it if the smaller guy has some real submissions grappling training and the bigger guy does not.
 
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Getting ahold though doesn't always win it if the smaller guy has some real submissions grappling training and the bigger guy does not.
I agree to a point. But if the mountain got hold of connor say around the throat, what could connor do?

He probably couldn't reach his chin

Probably couldn't snap his arm

All it'd take is a powerful throw to the concrete and connor would be dead.

I get where you're coming from but at a certain point big becomes too big.....IF it gets to you.

(Just don't link any Fedor videos pls :p)
 
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Johnstown

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I agree to a point. But if the mountain got hold of connor say around the throat, what could connor do?

He probably couldn't reach his chin

Probably couldn't snap his arm

All it'd take is a powerful throw to the concrete and connor would be dead.

I get where you're coming from but at a certain point big becomes too big.....IF it gets to you.

(Just don't link any Fedor videos pls :p)
It's harder to throw someone who knows how to clinch up than one would think.

Maybe he could do it to Conor because of the massive size and strength difference but I wouldn't be 100% sure.
 

Johnstown

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Conor isnt much smaller than Royce Gracie was in his prime...

And Gracie was able to beat much bigger guys than himself who definitely had more grappling experience than the Mountain (to be sure though not as big a size difference).
 
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It's harder to throw someone who knows how to clinch up than one would think.

Maybe he could do it to Conor because of the massive size and strength difference but I wouldn't be 100% sure.
Yeah. It'd be too much for the H&S guys but it would be entertaining to see these kind of bouts in UFC. Only way to be sure :deal
 

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Yeah. It'd be too much for the H&S guys but it would be entertaining to see these kind of bouts in UFC. Only way to be sure :deal
Like the old freak show fights you used to get in Pride, with giant sumos and pro wrestlers versus tiny Japanese flyweights.
 
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In my opinion, this is still the best deadlift of all time.

No straps, and a normal sized barbell.
He wanted to do 480 but the bar wasn't big enough

The Magnusson who pulled that would been able to surpass Hall or Bjornsson in any assisted lift over 500kg, imo. Sadly, by the time he attempted it in 2016, on the same show that Hall pulled the 500, he was already ravaged by injuries and not the same.

It's funny how perceptions and popularity change because lifts with straps and a suit being treated as legit is a fairly new thing. I guess Magnusson just missed the boat.