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Tyson Fury is a moron for not getting the covid shot in England.
At the moment in the UK more people are dying of covid who have been fully vaxxed than people who are unvaxxed.

And being vaxxed doesn’t stop you from contracting it or passing it on.

Given he’s in a very low risk group, he’s better off contracting it and letting his immune system do it’s job.
 
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At the moment in the UK more people are dying of covid who have been fully vaxxed than people who are unvaxxed.

And being vaxxed doesn’t stop you from contracting it or passing it on.

Given he’s in a very low risk group, he’s better off contracting it and letting his immune system do it’s job.
That's not a reliable/demonstrative correlation, it doesn't take into account factors like ratio of vaccinated infected people and demographics, or vast number of other aspects I can't be bothered going into
 
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That's not a reliable/demonstrative correlation, it doesn't take into account factors like ratio of vaccinated infected people and demographics, or vast number of other aspects I can't be bothered going into
Fair enough if you can’t be bothered. I’m not fussed about correlation, simply saying that more vaxxed are dying now from COVID than unvaxxed in the UK.

But you’re right, there are a vast number of aspects that come into play, I guess since the vaxxes are still under Phase 3 Clinical Trials, it’ll be awhile til we know what’s what:

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04368728

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04470427

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04505722

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04516746

Some people are happy to be guinea pigs, others not. I’m happy to be in the latter and will just wait it out. Good luck to anyone who wants to be part of the clinical trials.
 
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I know someone pretty fit who had both jabs and is now in hospital due to Covid. It just shows that even with the double jabs you aren't safe, no matter who you are. I don't see what other option there is than to open up though.
 
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I know someone pretty fit who had both jabs and is now in hospital due to Covid. It just shows that even with the double jabs you aren't safe, no matter who you are. I don't see what other option there is than to open up though.
When they were jabbing mice with mrna during cov-sars1, they found that some mice became more susceptible to getting fucked up after being vaccinated. Maybe the same thing has happened to your mate.

How old is your mate and why did he get jabbed?
 
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https://covid19risktools.com:8443/riskcalculator

Typed in Johnstown‘s details into the calculator, 5’8” - 235 pounds - diabetes &high blood pressure (assumed).


COVID-19 Mortality Risk Calculation
Based on the information you have provided, the tool estimates that you have 0.03 (95% CI: 0.03 - 0.04 ) times the risk of dying from COVID-19 compared to the average risk for the US population.

Based on the estimated risk, you are categorized to be at Closer to or lower than average risk based on the following chart:

chart:

Further, based on the information available from pandemic projections in your state of residence, the tool estimates an absolute rate of mortality of 4.1(95% CI: 2.2 - 7.6 ) per 10000000 individuals in subgroups of the population with a similar risk profile to yours during the period of 06/26/2021 - 07/16/2021. This estimate is calculated based on the CDC's Ensemble mortality forecast data..

*95% CI: Error bounds with 95% confidence.
 

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Clarence, you and the chap you quoted, Lee Hurst (and plenty of others ) seem to have a problem with logical reasoning.

You still have the statistics of cause-and-effect ass-backwards.

In your post, Mr. Hurst states that 47 % of covid cases are double-taxed.

I don't know if this statistic is correct or not, but even if that is true, it's of no consequence.

The percentage of covid cases who are double-vaxed tells us very little about the effectiveness of the vaccine....it just misleads the simple-minded.

A more useful statistic is: WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THOSE DOUBLE-VAXED BECOME INFECTED WITH COVID ?


A comparison of the infection rates of those vaxed versus those not vaxed would tell us something about the effectiveness of the vaccine.

Knowing what percentage of those who become infected had been vaxed tells us little or nothing.
 
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Clarence, you and the chap you quoted, Lee Hurst (and plenty of others ) seem to have a problem with logical reasoning.

You still have the statistics of cause-and-effect ass-backwards.

In your post, Mr. Hurst states that 47 % of covid cases are double-taxed.

I don't know if this statistic is correct or not, but even if that is true, it's of no consequence.

The percentage of covid cases who are double-vaxed tells us very little about the effectiveness of the vaccine....it just misleads the simple-minded.

A more useful statistic is: WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THOSE DOUBLE-VAXED BECOME INFECTED WITH COVID ?


A comparison of the infection rates of those vaxed versus those not vaxed would tell us something about the effectiveness of the vaccine.

Knowing what percentage of those who become infected had been vaxed tells us little or nothing.
The real statistic would be hospitalizations.