Having Class - Does it matter anymore?

Clarence Worley

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The problem we get into here is everyone who doesn't like the person says they're fake, everyone who likes them says they're genuine. It's very hard to prove it either way. I have this all the time with Lewis Hamilton who also appears to be a very Marmite character.
We can prove Joshua is fake

When asked about his drug dealing he just calls it connecting the dots
 

Clarence Worley

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Well I think his behaviour not trash talking, and congratulating Ruiz at every opportunity are examples of these. He knows he is just a fighter even if he has to play the big star for commercial reasons and has accepted the loss graciously in public far better than many of his fans. Even if him some of his self control is commercially driven it still makes him way classier than Fury or Wilder who can barely utter a sentence without slagging someone off.
He interjected on the mic during his opponents victory interview

Yeah he has took his loss well and I hope he wins the rematch but he won’t
 

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He interjected on the mic during his opponents victory interview

Yeah he has took his loss well and I hope he wins the rematch but he won’t
To congratulate him....... (while he was concussed!)
 
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I'm interested in people's thoughts on whether having Class matters anymore?

I have always been a fan of sportsmen who display a lot of integrity, professionalism and humility which I collectively think of as "Class". This is why Michael Johnson, Thierry Henry, Lewis Hamilton and Roger Federer have always been at the top of my list of all time favourites to follow.

Having posted on here for the last week I have been surprised how few supporters Joshua has considering he is also a classy sportsmen who displays the qualities above. It appears that many on here prefer the vulgar and disrepectful fighters (Wilder and Fury especially) who while clearly have skills (I'll leave the who is better arguments out of this) but I could never follow because how they deport themselves.

I have always felt that who you follow says something about yourself and therefore I have only followed those I respect as people as well as athletes.

Is this something that any of you notice? or care about? Is it purely about their ability in the ring (however you judge that)? or do you proactively enjoy the unprofessional side of things?
One of my top five favourite fighters is Edwin Valero, another Diego Corrales. What does that say about me?
 
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One of my top five favourite fighters is Edwin Valero, another Diego Corrales. What does that say about me?
Im pretty sure it’s the exciting style they have in the ring that makes them favourites of yours and not their out of the ring antics. It’s great to have a personal connection to a fighter also but I’m more interested in what happens in the ring myself.
 

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Im pretty sure it’s the exciting style they have in the ring that makes them favourites of yours and not their out of the ring antics. It’s great to have a personal connection to a fighter also but I’m more interested in what happens in the ring myself.
Yeah. That's so true.

I suppose Valero was ''interesting' out of the ring for the bike crash, the obvious other thing. Corrales too - the bike crash, the jail sentence. But you're right, what they did inside the ring was always of most importance to me (but remember - regarding Valero - I don't condone killing your wife and yourself out of the ring).
 
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AJ has loads of endorsements...keeping it classy keeps the sponsors on board and attracts new ones.

On the flip side....Mayweather did not have a single corporation willing to atrach their name to him.

Adrian Broner got beat by Shawn Porter....Broner is still the bigger name of the two and attracts more coverage. And gets bigger tv audiences for his fights.

Playing the villain instead of classy is also very lucrative.

If you cant develop a hatebase or a fanbase then you end up like Andre Ward...nobody really cares about him.

He was not even the most famous fighter in his gym...Despite being one of the greats.
Hublot sponsored him, as did Reebok and Burger King. Reebok didn't renew him in 2010.

Another argument as to why Mayweather didn't get much sponsorship is because his entry-level you had to pay him was too high. You had to pay him a million dollars before he'd even start negotiations.
 
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I can appreciate both sides of it. Nonito Donaire for example is a class act and proper sportsman. He was travelling to Scotland to watch the Inoue semi final and stopped off in Belfast the night before to watch Ryan Burnett's comeback fight. Think he goes out for meals with some of his opponent's after fights too.

I can see the other side of it too. A lot of people on here always point to the whole fake beef thing but this isn't just a sport for some fighters. Can perfectly understand fighters not having a bad word to say about each other until they actually meet face to face. At the end of the day they're going to be fighting each other and the loser could have a long way back so a bit of aggro isn't surprising.
 
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AJ has loads of endorsements...keeping it classy keeps the sponsors on board and attracts new ones.

On the flip side....Mayweather did not have a single corporation willing to atrach their name to him.

Adrian Broner got beat by Shawn Porter....Broner is still the bigger name of the two and attracts more coverage. And gets bigger tv audiences for his fights.

Playing the villain instead of classy is also very lucrative.

If you cant develop a hatebase or a fanbase then you end up like Andre Ward...nobody really cares about him.

He was not even the most famous fighter in his gym...Despite being one of the greats.
Broner stopped being relevant to me after Maidana beat the piss out of him, I can't believe he still drew ratings after that
 
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Ruiz Jr is classy. His fists got him overnight famous, not his mouth or his belly, his Jimmy Kimmel interview has a few mil views and everybody seems to like how down to earth and nice he is. McGregor still runs his mouth but I have grown a substantial disliking for that man as a former fan (He has become what he used to portray ironically)and couldn't give a fuck about his next fight. I think the term "Form is temporary,class is permanent" can apply to this kind of subject too. Paul Malignaggi on Ricky Burns: What a class Champion this man is. And Burns didn't even have a belt when he said this. Malignaggi recognises class when he was known as one of the biggest talkers of shit because that's what it is, class.
 
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Malignaggi annoyed me during his career and his twitter feed is painful to read sometimes, his politics are very far from mine but I respect him as a man who is genuine. You can tell when he's in talk shit promo mode and when he's being normal.That shit McGregor pulled in the sparring was one of the big things to put me off him, so sly and devious, I had Irish people online calling me a bitter Malignaggi fan, to which Andrew Neils line 'If you only knew how rediculous that statement was you wouldn't have said it' applies. What team McGregor and Dana White(not that I expect class from a greedy as fuck promoter) was just cunty and slimy as fuck so I took Malignaggis side because I felt him to be the wronged party.