Hearn claims Ortiz knocked back $6m and then $7m

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Hearn has a tendency to claim alot of things....according to Ortiz's trainer the guy who Hearn was negotiating with did not consult Ortiz or his Team. Whatsmore Hearn had the opportunity to make the offer again ensuring Ortiz was aware of the offer and had the time to accept or decline.

Last week Hearn was claiming that fight was unlikely to happen because Ortiz would need more time to prepare.

I doubt if Hearn really wanted Ortiz at short notice in the first place.

This is just Hearn being Hearn....but getting a little help by the fact he is dealing with inexperienced idiots. That represent Ortiz.
 

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Hearn has a tendency to claim alot of things....according to Ortiz's trainer the guy who Hearn was negotiating with did not consult Ortiz or his Team. Whatsmore Hearn had the opportunity to make the offer again ensuring Ortiz was aware of the offer and had the time to accept or decline.

Last week Hearn was claiming that fight was unlikely to happen because Ortiz would need more time to prepare.

I doubt if Hearn really wanted Ortiz at short notice in the first place.

This is just Hearn being Hearn....but getting a little help by the fact he is dealing with inexperienced idiots. That represent Ortiz.
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

Im no hearn fan but team ortiz clearly clearly ducked here
 

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If Hearn said water was wet, people would still not believe him.
 
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Sometimes Hearn does the equivalent of telling people water is dry, and they do believe him.

Hearn is a master manipulator. Make no mistake about that.
Hearn is like some cult leader everything he claims suddenly becomes the idea of his fans. Who just repeat whatever he says unquestioningly.

Regardless out of all the Promoters i've seen during my time following boxing.

Hearn has to be.....one of the best ever.
Way better then any off the current promoters.

Never seen any other promoter have a huge fan base...never seen a promoter connect with or get his point across to journalists and make it the dominant opinion he like he does.
 
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If you are aware of the situation from both sides i.e. looked at the quotes from both, then it’s difficult to blame Hearn for anything other than trying to make this.

Ortiz is old, has been KO’d, and doesn’t look anywhere near as dangerous as a couple of years ago.
 
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If you are aware of the situation from both sides i.e. looked at the quotes from both, then it’s difficult to blame Hearn for anything other than trying to make this.

Ortiz is old, has been KO’d, and doesn’t look anywhere near as dangerous as a couple of years ago.
Hearn insisted on a rematch clause in his offer to Whyte where, should Whyte have won, he would have been contracted to defend all the titles against Joshua and still receive the short end of the money!

That from the same Eddie Hearn who preaches about legacy and insists if you want to fight for the titles you have to take the short money in the name of pursuing legacy.

I bet he had a similar lopsided rematch clause in stall for Ortiz.
 
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Not mandatory opponent so why not stick in rematch clause split in Joshua's favour?

Any idea what Joshua getting his side, then can see if $7mill is good offer.
 
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Not mandatory opponent so why not stick in rematch clause split in Joshua's favour?

Any idea what Joshua getting his side, then can see if $7mill is good offer.
A rematch clause makes perfect sense. But signing on to receive less money as the champion in a rematch made zero sense to Whyte and who could disagree with him on that?

Joshua is getting something like $32m for this fight and whatever they are paying Ruiz would be taking it in the vicinity of a $40m fight.

A rematch should Joshua lose, would likely be worth similar money and why shouldn't the new champion expect the bigger split of the $40m?
 
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A rematch clause makes perfect sense. But signing on to receive less money as the champion in a rematch made zero sense to Whyte and who could disagree?

Joshua is getting something like $32m for this fight and whatever they are paying Ruiz would be taking it in the vicinity of a $40m fight.

A rematch should Joshua lose, would likely be worth similar and why shouldn't the new champion expect the bigger split of that $40m?
So it's an 80/20 split in Joshua favour. Decent for him then.

Rematch split like 60/40 to Joshua be fair, but guess opponent offered far less.

It's a business offer isn't it. Earn small slice for fight 1, if you win earn bigger slice for fight 2 and if win again off you go. In both cases dangling highest career earning opportunity.
 
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So it's an 80/20 split in Joshua favour. Decent for him then.

Rematch split like 60/40 to Joshua be fair, but guess opponent offered far less.

It's a business offer isn't it. Earn small slice for fight 1, if you win earn bigger slice for fight 2 and if win again off you go. In both cases dangling highest career earning opportunity.
No amount has been announced for Ruiz to my knowledge. But one would think he would be getting something like $5m or $6m.

If Ruiz is getting $5m that represents a 13/87 split.

If Ruiz is getting $6m that is a 16/84 split.

As far as rematch clauses go. Yes, it is a business but prospective challengers have the right to walk away from extortion attempts from the banana man in my avi.
 
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No amount has been announced for Ruiz to my knowledge. But one would think he would be getting something like $5m or $6m.

If Ruiz is getting $5m that represents a 13/87 split.

If Ruiz is getting $6m that is a 16/84 split.

As far as rematch clauses go. Yes, it is a business but prospective challengers have the right to walk away from extortion attempts from the banana man in my avi.
Yeah that's a heavy split in Joshua favour.

For sure walk away. If I was an advisor to any with exception of Fury, Wilder would say take it. With delays thrown in, new celebrity status, sponsorship revenues be able capitalise on victory and earn far more than just return bout split purse.
 
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Hearn has a tendency to claim alot of things....according to Ortiz's trainer the guy who Hearn was negotiating with did not consult Ortiz or his Team. Whatsmore Hearn had the opportunity to make the offer again ensuring Ortiz was aware of the offer and had the time to accept or decline.

Last week Hearn was claiming that fight was unlikely to happen because Ortiz would need more time to prepare.

I doubt if Hearn really wanted Ortiz at short notice in the first place.

This is just Hearn being Hearn....but getting a little help by the fact he is dealing with inexperienced idiots. That represent Ortiz.
Congratulations on speaking absolute fucking bollocks.

Even Ortiz’s team have came out publicly and admitted it was them who fucked up and not Hearn, but feel free to keep hating and ignoring all evidence.
 
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Yeah that's a heavy split in Joshua favour.

For sure walk away. If I was an advisor to any with exception of Fury, Wilder would say take it. With delays thrown in, new celebrity status, sponsorship revenues be able capitalise on victory and earn far more than just return bout split purse.
Hearn and Joshua are equal opportunity thieves. They rip everybody off.