Heavyweight Prospects

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Peter Kadiru vs Vincenzo Febbo

Kadiru is one to keep an eye on in the future for sure.

 

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Jermaine Franklin vs Rydell Booker.

Lots to work on for Franklin, seemed too anxious to get the stoppage on his tv debut but showed some nice handspeed, variety and ability inside & off the ropes.

 
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Sonny Conto reminds me a lot of a young Vitali.

- But he's leaning in a bit too much, not using his feet quite enough, offensively.
If they can fix that, then he has crazy-good potential.

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Fat Franklin is off my "must watch" list. He has all the gifts, but clearly has a crappy work ethic.
 
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Sonny Conto vs Omar Acosta

Obviously it's hard to tell too much from that level of opponent, but Conto looked good there. He looked quite fluid and natural in his movements and attacks, went to the body really well and looks pretty light on his feet and with quick hands.

As for the others...

Demirezen is going absolutely nowhere and gets battered the moment he steps out of fighting journeymen. He's poor.

Vianello is technically poor too (from what I saw there) and in such a short fight I wouldn't normally say that, but his technique on every shot he threw was fucking horrible. How he won a European silver medal is beyond me.

Jalolov is a big fucker and not horrible, plus he is young, but he's very, very upright and seems a bit predictable. It's 1-2 all day long, and even against that much smaller man who had no chance, he never even tried to bend the knees and throw an uppercut as the much smaller man ran head first at him looking to get close.

Frankin throws okay, but his shape was shit, and he's easy to hit. That said, Booker looks a great opponent for an up and coming prospect, he's tough, technically decent, and doesn't hit too hard, but gives it a go and throws some sneaky counters. Great test for young fighters hoping to go places and quite early in their careers. Worth noting that Franklin has only had 4 fewer fights than AJ though. :lol:
 
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Thanks for posting these. But how many of them beat Gorman or Dubois. And what about Stephan Shaw?? Ha ha.

Everybody beats Gorman.

I mean, EVERYBODY.


Christ, I think even Martin "the Stench" Stensky could beat Gorman, on a good night.
 
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Everybody beats Gorman.

I mean, EVERYBODY.


Christ, I think even Martin "the Stench" Stensky could beat Gorman, on a good night.
No you don't. Gorman beat Cojanu, and Johnson and you wouldn't back Stensky to beat either of them. Gorman stopped Turner in 3 rounds, Turner went the full 8 with Hrgovic. Gorman stopped Sokolowski, when the Pole went the distance with Bakole and Price, and the only other person to stop him is Whyte.

Gorman is sloppy, not improving in the way I had hoped he would and needs to be in better shape. But he batters someone like Demirezen and is clearly better than someone like Vianello.
 
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Ive never heard of Demirezen,and only just know Vianello through him sparring Fury and seeing his last "fight" He looks pretty handy but id have to see more. Id love Gorman to do well as he's such a nice lad and I like his trainer but I really don't see him setting the world alight. Dubois just might, but he has plenty of time. Thats why I don't see him fighting Joyce for a while. Certainly not this year.
@Strike I think Gorman and Vianello would be a good fight,aftter the Italian gets a few good wins. Rather than Gorman/Dubois. Let those 2 go on parallel lines and meet later when it means something.
 
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Ive never heard of Demirezen,and only just know Vianello through him sparring Fury and seeing his last "fight" He looks pretty handy but id have to see more. Id love Gorman to do well as he's such a nice lad and I like his trainer but I really don't see him setting the world alight. Dubois just might, but he has plenty of time. Thats why I don't see him fighting Joyce for a while. Certainly not this year.
@Strike I think Gorman and Vianello would be a good fight,aftter the Italian gets a few good wins. Rather than Gorman/Dubois. Let those 2 go on parallel lines and meet later when it means something.
Gorman is far better technically than Vianello, but a fight might well be viable, as Vianello is managed by Sam Jones who manages Joyce, and Joyce has just signed with Warren. If Jones has fighters joining Warren, then I am sure Gorman-Vianello could be made. Vianello has FAR more amateur experience than Gorman, he won a silver at the European games in 2014 and boxed at the 2016 Olympics, and yet his punch technique on every shot bar the jab is horrible. But, he's got pretty quick hands, and he's fucking big...

Gorman has looked like crap of late, and has not improved on a single thing since his 4th or 5th fight, not conditioning, not maintaining space for his best work...still falls into combinations and gets tied up etc. Very disappointing progress. But over ten rounds? Yeah, I'd back Gorman to beat Vianello, as the Italian is upright as fuck, with no defence at all and wide shots when he throws combinations. He relies almost entirely on being big with long arms, a decent jab and fast hands. Decent physical assets to have, but not enough.
 
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Gorman is far better technically than Vianello, but a fight might well be viable, as Vianello is managed by Sam Jones who manages Joyce, and Joyce has just signed with Warren. If Jones has fighters joining Warren, then I am sure Gorman-Vianello could be made. Vianello has FAR more amateur experience than Gorman, he won a silver at the European games in 2014 and boxed at the 2016 Olympics, and yet his punch technique on every shot bar the jab is horrible. But, he's got pretty quick hands, and he's fucking big...

Gorman has looked like crap of late, and has not improved on a single thing since his 4th or 5th fight, not conditioning, not maintaining space for his best work...still falls into combinations and gets tied up etc. Very disappointing progress. But over ten rounds? Yeah, I'd back Gorman to beat Vianello, as the Italian is upright as fuck, with no defence at all and wide shots when he throws combinations. He relies almost entirely on being big with long arms, a decent jab and fast hands. Decent physical assets to have, but not enough.
Vianello has much more amateur pedigree but Gorman is better technically?? Don't tell Smithy. To be serious I haven't seen enough of the Italian to form an opinion, but I've never been massively impressed with Gorman. If he ever gets as good as his cousin Hughie Ill be surprised. But I like what I see of him personally. Dubois I think might just BECOME a champion, has plenty of time to play with if he keeps active. Ive been looking at other heavies from different countries now and he's the youngest and the best of the prospects potentially,unless somebody comes Tyson like out of nowhere from the US or a beast from the East from the olympics or something.
 
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Vianello has much more amateur pedigree but Gorman is better technically??
Yes. Joyce has TONS of amateur experience, far more than Joshua had when he turned pro, but Joshua in his first pro fight looked more technically sound than Joyce. Amateur experience should lead to greater technique but it doesn't always work out like that.
To be serious I haven't seen enough of the Italian to form an opinion, but I've never been massively impressed with Gorman. If he ever gets as good as his cousin Hughie Ill be surprised. But I like what I see of him personally. Dubois I think might just BECOME a champion, has plenty of time to play with if he keeps active. Ive been looking at other heavies from different countries now and he's the youngest and the best of the prospects potentially,unless somebody comes Tyson like out of nowhere from the US or a beast from the East from the olympics or something.
That's all fair mate. I thought Vianello looked awful in that brief clip, so I checked out some WBS fights of his and other amateur stuff. He looked better in those and showed what looks to be a good chin and very fast hands. A guy who is 6ft 6" with fast hands, a decent jab and a good chin will do okay, but that's as far as it goes...he looked every bit as easy to hit in each fight, with no improvement in that area from 2015 to 2018, and his technique on most punches is not good.

Gorman throws technically sound combinations when in full flow, especially to the body, and he has decent upper body movement for a big guy, but he's making all the same mistakes now that he was 2 years ago, seems devoid of ideas if someone is covering up well, and still hasn't got himself into the sort of condition a pro athlete should be in. Nobody expects him to come in ripped...Fedor never did as a top MMA fighter, and Fury is never getting to cut up, but he should be leaner and be looking to get in the sort of shape Fury was for the Wlad fight.
 
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Zhan Kossobutskiy vs Williams Ocando

I think ZK is a bit of a dark horse in the division.