Henceforth, football shall be officially known as Soccer.

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One study, published in the Journal of the American Medical Association, looked at body mass index in NFL players. They concluded that 97 percent of current NFL players were overweight, and 56 percent of them qualified as obese

I rest my case sunshine.

Franco Colombo 5-5 200 pounds, that is....obese....on any scale.



 
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Give me the name of an NFL player who didn't play college football, who?

95% of NFL players played high school football.

Do you a clue?
The wee fat nigerian guy you bang on about. The one who was almost as good at discus as a German housewife from the 60's. The nightmare guy.

He'd never even seen nfl till he was part way through college. Picked it up in his twenties at college and became a huge success.

No one is picking up a football or tennis racket at 20 and reaching the top level a few years later. Or ever.
 
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Give me the name of an NFL player who didn't play college football, who?

95% of NFL players played high school football.

Do you a clue?
It is absolutely a sport you can transition into later in life.

As I said, most sports played by a truly global talent pool, are very different. For example, me saying “I did start playing football young, I started playing in high school” would be ridiculous. If you start playing real football in high school then in almost every case I can think of, you’ve started too late to make it as a top player. In a very, very exceptional case you might still have a shot at making it on a pro level at a more minor league, but it’s going to be very rare.
 
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The wee fat nigerian guy you bang on about. The one who was almost as good at discus as a German housewife from the 60's. The nightmare guy.

He'd never even seen nfl till he was part way through college. Picked it up in his twenties at college and became a huge success.

No one is picking up a football or tennis racket at 20 and reaching the top level a few years later. Or ever.
So you’re now not disputing that a large % of American fatballers are clinically obese?

You’re now arguing against the definition of clinical obesity? :think1
Only a total idiot would think any NFL player is obese. So dumb why even reply?

You ever watch an NFL game?
 
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The wee fat nigerian guy you bang on about. The one who was almost as good at discus as a German housewife from the 60's. The nightmare guy.

He'd never even seen nfl till he was part way through college. Picked it up in his twenties at college and became a huge success.

No one is picking up a football or tennis racket at 20 and reaching the top level a few years later. Or ever.
Yep....one......of how many thousands?

Dude, anyone can kick a ball around, ok?
 
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A total idiot like, science? :think1

That's right science.

Look at one of those height/weight charts.



6' 1"144 to 188 lbs.189 to 226 lbs.227 to 295 lbs.


Herschel Walker would be obese on that chart, the guy looked like he was chiseled out of granite.
 
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Beat me to it.
I know we're having fun, but you know those players add that fat as a utility function, right? Think of the lines(defensive and offensive) kind of like sumo. Except these sumo wrestlers can also move as fast as many athletes that are half their size, and they are required to make contact to make contact every single play at that same speed and intensity.

The fast is to make them harder to move, without blowing them up the same as if they had bodybuilder sized physiques. Though a lot of this has been changing for some time. Some defensive linemen still look like that, but you also have defensive ends that are athletic freaks with barely an ounce of fat in them. Style and purpose.

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I know we're having fun, but you know those players add that fat as a utility function, right? Think of the lines(defensive and offensive) kind of like sumo. Except these sumo wrestlers can also move as fast as many athletes that are half their size, and they are required to make contact to make contact every single play at that same speed and intensity.

The fast is to make them harder to move, without blowing them up the same as if they had bodybuilder sized physiques. Though a lot of this has been changing for some time. Some defensive linemen still look like that, but you also have defensive ends that are athletic freaks with barely an ounce of fat in them. Style and purpose.

AMERICA WE LOVE YOU!!!!
Yeah, I was just winding the old boy up. I actually like nfl, it's my favourite American sport.

Body mass is important for some sports/positions, and there are benefits to the right fat to muscle ratio. These guys are well suited to their role, as other athletes are suited to their's.

It does have a lower skill level than a lot of sports though. That's why it's easier to pick up, or get by on physical capability.
 
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Yeah, I was just winding the old boy up. I actually like nfl, it's my favourite American sport.

Body mass is important for some sports/positions, and there are benefits to the right fat to muscle ratio. These guys are well suited to their role, as other athletes are suited to their's.

It does have a lower skill level than a lot of sports though. That's why it's easier to pick up, or get by on physical capability.
I can never tell. I don't know why I don't just intuit sardonic intent from the getgo on here. The only thing I would say about the last part, is that that depends on the position that we're talking about. In recent years, I've started to understand the NFL QB position as the most processor-heavy position in athletic competition. I haven't worked through this entire thought yet, but while there is definitely processing in each and every sport, a QB is processing several layers back on both sides of the field, at the same time, and doing this weird trick where they maintain a tremendous amount of data in short-term memory, and then immediately transfer that into long-term memory.

I'm over-crediting the position across the board, but with the upper-echelon, it appears to be universally true. Defensive Backs are also playing a version of chess that is so much more complicated than even commentators ever dream of giving credit because football would be almost unwatchable if that kind of detail was laid bare. Linemen are absolutely the lowest pure skill layer in the game. Kickers are somewhere around there, as their skill is so specific and removed from the rest of the game that they have been accused of not actually being football players by quite a few.

It is a sport that grabs me and loses me pretty regularly. Basketball is my go-to American non-combat sport. Football is definitely the most interesting though. I had an unbelievable amount of fun with the half XFL season we got. Was the best time I've had with American sports...probably ever
 
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I can never tell. I don't know why I don't just intuit sardonic intent from the getgo on here. The only thing I would say about the last part, is that that depends on the position that we're talking about. In recent years, I've started to understand the NFL QB position as the most processor-heavy position in athletic competition. I haven't worked through this entire thought yet, but while there is definitely processing in each and every sport, a QB is processing several layers back on both sides of the field, at the same time, and doing this weird trick where they maintain a tremendous amount of data in short-term memory, and then immediately transfer that into long-term memory.

I'm over-crediting the position across the board, but with the upper-echelon, it appears to be universally true. Defensive Backs are also playing a version of chess that is so much more complicated than even commentators ever dream of giving credit because football would be almost unwatchable if that kind of detail was laid bare. Linemen are absolutely the lowest pure skill layer in the game. Kickers are somewhere around there, as their skill is so specific and removed from the rest of the game that they have been accused of not actually being football players by quite a few.

It is a sport that grabs me and loses me pretty regularly. Basketball is my go-to American non-combat sport. Football is definitely the most interesting though. I had an unbelievable amount of fun with the half XFL season we got. Was the best time I've had with American sports...probably ever
QB is a very skilled position, it's comparable to a rugby union fly half or scrum half, but with a less diverse skill set.

That's because nfl poisons are more specialised, while rugby positions are more generalised. It's like the comparison of boxing to mma.

Though similar, they are different. You have to be good at a lot of stuff in mma or rugby, while in boxing or nfl you have to be great in a more limited skill set.
 
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Yeah, I was just winding the old boy up. I actually like nfl, it's my favourite American sport.

Body mass is important for some sports/positions, and there are benefits to the right fat to muscle ratio. These guys are well suited to their role, as other athletes are suited to their's.

It does have a lower skill level than a lot of sports though. That's why it's easier to pick up, or get by on physical capability.
Very few players in the NFL are getting by on physical ability. Brock Lesnar tried out for the Vikings and got cut immediately. The Rock got his spot taken in College by this guy
University of Miami vs University of Nebraska, 1995 FedEx Orange Bowl : News Photo


If you put Warren Sapp and Dwayne the Rock Johnson side by side and asked who was the all All-american all pro starting DT for a National Champion and Superbowl champion youd would be hard to find someone who would say it wasnt the Rock given their body types but it was Sapp.

Most General Managers who draft players based on measureables like 40 times, verticles or bench press reps dont last long and guys who pick up the sport late almost always flame out.

My team the Eagles drafted a guy Danny Watkins from Canada who only ever played Rugby and Hockey and was going to school to be a fire fighter. Dude was 6'3 310lbs and bench pressed 225lbs 29 times. Dude wasnt fat either he was stacked

Of course his lack of experience showed and he flamed out in a few years, one of the biggest busts in franchise history. Everyone in the NFL is a physical freak so it ultimately comes down to skill and intelligence. Most of the guys who do pick up American football late are former Rugby players where the principles of running and tackling are similar but even then they are usually relegated to special teams not specialized roles. You wont see a guy start playing football at 20 and be a competent linebacker ever where you are literally learning first step mechanics and how to read an offense at 6 years old.
 
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Very few players in the NFL are getting by on physical ability. Brock Lesnar tried out for the Vikings and got cut immediately. The Rock got his spot taken in College by this guy
University of Miami vs University of Nebraska, 1995 FedEx Orange Bowl : News Photo


If you put Warren Sapp and Dwayne the Rock Johnson side by side and asked who was the all All-american all pro starting DT for a National Champion and Superbowl champion youd would be hard to find someone who would say it wasnt the Rock given their body types but it was Sapp.

Most General Managers who draft players based on measureables like 40 times, verticles or bench press reps dont last long and guys who pick up the sport late almost always flame out.

My team the Eagles drafted a guy Danny Watkins from Canada who only ever played Rugby and Hockey and was going to school to be a fire fighter. Dude was 6'3 310lbs and bench pressed 225lbs 29 times. Dude wasnt fat either he was stacked

Of course his lack of experience showed and he flamed out in a few years, one of the biggest busts in franchise history. Everyone in the NFL is a physical freak so it ultimately comes down to skill and intelligence. Most of the guys who do pick up American football late are former Rugby players where the principles of running and tackling are similar but even then they are usually relegated to special teams not specialized roles. You wont see a guy start playing football at 20 and be a competent linebacker ever where you are literally learning first step mechanics and how to read an offense at 6 years old.
Yeah, there is obviously a skill requirement. Just less than football, basketball, tennis, golf etc.
 

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Yeah, there is obviously a skill requirement. Just less than football, basketball, tennis, golf etc.
Disagree. I played basketball and football. Being a defensive end and Tight end was far more difficult. In basketball your coach may have 5 sets where you can run maybe 10 plays out of at best, mostly motion. Where as in American football you have 10 sets with 50 plays and each individual assignment may be different depending on how the defense aligns.

Everyone on the internet was a star athlete who makes 6 figures and has a hot wife, but I was legitimately one of the best players in my side of the state. However, I went up against a farm boy once who had a full ride scholarship to Iowa which means he was top 10 players in the state and maybe the best at his position. My job was to block this kid, I tried everything, anticipating the snap by half a second, guess where he was going, chop his knees, grab under his should pads, doing whatever I could to keep him out the back field. This dudes technique was just above mine, he could swim, rip, first step lightening quick, and I was on an island. Not like basketball where you can run a zone if the other team has this amazing player, there are ways to hide a bad player. You arent hiding a weakness on the football field. In football the best you can do is send a double team but that just puts pressure on other people a long the line.

For reference here is the best DE in the NFL





Come on bro lol.