Hey smart guys, how do we fix the violent crime problem in the USA?

Haggis

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Do you realize how much of the US isn't suburbs? A weapon like an AR has practical uses in a place like Montana, where I lived a lot of my adult life.

That, and it's our constitutional right.
It has practical uses in a place like Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School or El Paso Walmart too, you know. :lol:

Why do you need a 30 round magazine to hunt deer? I've been hunting in NZ and Australia, nobody ever lamented that we needed an AR-15. :conf

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DBerry

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'Straya, cunt.
It has practical uses in a place like Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School or El Paso Walmart too, you know. :lol:

Why do you need a 30 round magazine to hunt deer? I've been hunting in NZ and Australia, nobody ever lamented that we needed an AR-15. :conf

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Can’t read, simpleton? The thread clearly asks for “smart guys”, not retarded nuffies like you, fuck off.
 

Haggis

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So, so boring, Dale. You're almost 50 years old, FFS. Grow the fuck up, find something in the world to talk about other than this stale as hell, one-note routine. :patsch

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It has practical uses in a place like Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School or El Paso Walmart too, you know. :lol:

Why do you need a 30 round magazine to hunt deer? I've been hunting in NZ and Australia, nobody ever lamented that we needed an AR-15. :conf

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You also don't have other large predators that will attack livestock in Australia and New Zealand, do you? That's what I mean about utility. I know it's the land that God forgot, but I didn't really think crocodiles would attack sheep in packs.
 

steviebruno

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You also don't have other large predators that will attack livestock in Australia and New Zealand, do you? That's what I mean about utility. I know it's the land that God forgot, but I didn't really think crocodiles would attack sheep in packs.
... So the assault weapons are for farming and sheep herding now?
 

Haggis

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You also don't have other large predators that will attack livestock in Australia and New Zealand, do you? That's what I mean about utility. I know it's the land that God forgot, but I didn't really think crocodiles would attack sheep in packs.
Canada has more bears, wolves, and mountain lions and a more rural population, and it's illegal to hunt with an AR-15 there.

And Americans did fine out in the woods before the AR-15 entered civilian hands. In fact, hunting was a more popular recreation then.

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Haggis

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More for the coyotes and wolves that will prey on them. That's their utility in western states like Montana, as I mentioned earlier.
What are the annual death tolls by AR-15 or similar weapons, coyotes vs innocent bystanders?

Not trying to be a dick, as you are a reasonable guy. Just curious to see how a reasonable American gun nut's arguments hold up. :thumbsup

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steviebruno

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More for the coyotes and wolves that will prey on them. That's their utility in western states like Montana, as I mentioned earlier.
So if the government effectively kept predatorial animals at an acceptable level, you'd have no real problem having assault weapons taken away, considering that these weapons are too often not used for 'practical' purposes?

...There was a story a year ago about a hunter who went nuts in Alaska and killed ten wolves with an AR 15.
 
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So if the government effectively kept predatorial animals at an acceptable level, you'd have no real problem having assault weapons taken away, considering that these weapons are too often not used for 'practical' purposes?

...There was a story a year ago about a hunter who went nuts in Alaska and killed ten wolves with an AR 15.
The government actively reintroduced Wolves to this area, over the objections of local farmers and ranchers. That's also not getting into how wildly unpragmatic trying to "take away" "assault weapons" would be. I think I saw a cost estimate that buying back every AR in the US at market value would cost $200B.

Sorry, pandora's box was opened, and it's not going to be closed that easily.
 
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Seriously. I've had some of the most enlightening conversations with you guys?

How do we address this issue. It's clearly more complicated then "take all the guns from people". What are the underlying causes and how do we address them?
More white people, less diversity.
 
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What are the annual death tolls by AR-15 or similar weapons, coyotes vs innocent bystanders?

Not trying to be a dick, as you are a reasonable guy. Just curious to see how a reasonable American gun nut's arguments hold up. :thumbsup

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Coyotes don't attack people, they attack livestock and frequently enough, pets in rural areas. Wolves do the same. I'm not going to begrudge a rancher protecting his property with the most effective tool, and if that's a .223 as opposed to a bolt action .270, so be it. I don't own any guns myself. Guns are a tool, and not one I currently have a use for. When I stopped working construction I put my tools in the shed. Same thing with firearms for me.
 

steviebruno

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The government actively reintroduced Wolves to this area, over the objections of local farmers and ranchers. That's also not getting into how wildly unpragmatic trying to "take away" "assault weapons" would be. I think I saw a cost estimate that buying back every AR in the US at market value would cost $200B.

Sorry, pandora's box was opened, and it's not going to be closed that easily.
Pandora's box can't be closed in our lifetime, but we can at least start the process. Take assault weapons off the market, then begin the process of buying them back. 200 billion all at once is alot of money... not so much, though, if you spread that amount over 25+ years. I'd also severely tax those opposed to selling their weapons back as a means to mitigate some of the cost.
 
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Pandora's box can't be closed in our lifetime, but we can at least start the process. Take assault weapons off the market, then begin the process of buying them back. 200 billion all at once is alot of money... not so much, though, if you spread that amount over 25+ years. I'd also severely tax those opposed to selling their weapons back as a means to mitigate some of the cost.
How are you even going to know who owns an AR/AK platform? Are you going to make gun owners in all 50 states register their firearms first?