I Refuse to Let Them Die - 1-2-3-4!!! RAMONES

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This excellent thread has made me want to do every RAMONES album back to back (again).

Never has the phrase 'You never miss it 'til it's gone away' ever seemed to apt for a band.

I knock out with an old punk who was there through the 70s/80s when it was all kicking off in Punkville. He remembers when Joe Strummer died, heard it on the radio, he said he had to pull his car over he was so gutted. Punk meant a lot to many, not enough, but many. An underrated genre.

Although it shouldn't be in a RAMONES thread (they wouldn't have minded), it is related to the above...I love this album, and it was one of their least accessible. Once you've 'got it' though, you've got it...if you know what I mean. Sandinista - links to all tracks on there...


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This excellent thread has made me want to do every RAMONES album back to back (again).

Never has the phrase 'You never miss it 'til it's gone away' ever seemed to apt for a band.

I knock out with an old punk who was there through the 70s/80s when it was all kicking off in Punkville. He remembers when Joe Strummer died, heard it on the radio, he said he had to pull his car over he was so gutted. Punk meant a lot to many, not enough, but many. An underrated genre.

Although it shouldn't be in a RAMONES thread (they wouldn't have minded), it is related to the above...I love this album, and it was one of their least accessible. Once you've 'got it' though, you've got it...if you know what I mean. Sandinista - links to all tracks on there...


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Speaking of The Clash I listened to 'London Calling' in full a few weeks back for the first time in well over a decade.

The hairs on my arm tingled listening to It and It put a big smile on my face I forgot how Iconic that Album is, In fact I felt ashamed it took me so long to go back to it. :lol:
 
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R.I.P. Joe Rein
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Speaking of The Clash I listened to 'London Calling' in full a few weeks back for the first time in well over a decade.

The hairs on my arm tingled listening to It and It put a big smile on my face I forgot how Iconic that Album is, In fact I felt ashamed it took me so long to go back to it. :lol:
I'm ashamed it took such a long absence, Roy. :good The album is a classic, for certain . I always get lambasted for preferring Sandinista to London, I always maintain it's a matter of taste, and also highlight how hard an album it is to get into.

More power to you for rediscovering the Clash, now get onto everything else they've done!!!! You're allowed to ignore Cut the Crap. Everything else is a must, my good friend.
 
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I'm ashamed it took such a long absence, Roy. :good The album is a classic, for certain . I always get lambasted for preferring Sandinista to London, I always maintain it's a matter of taste, and also highlight how hard an album it is to get into.

More power to you for rediscovering the Clash, now get onto everything else they've done!!!! You're allowed to ignore Cut the Crap. Everything else is a must, my good friend.
Yeah cut the crap barring 'This is England' is painfully bad.

It's the one good thing about the lockdown rediscovering music looking through the old record collection.
 
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Wore one of my Ramones shirt last week while I did the big shop at Tesco. Only venturing out once or twice a wet still so not had the radio on in a few months much at all. Tuned into Radio X on the way home just in time for the presenter to announce Blitzkrieg Bop was up next.
 
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Just watched the Thin Lizzy doc you posted up in that thread @Trail and I've been reminiscing about all the great music from that era. Great post. :good

Who is your favourite RAMONE T? It's an unfair question I know, but still. I think Tommy (rip) inventing that drum sound is a genius, but he never liked the life and quit early on, so that's him out for me. Marky, what a legend, still going strong with his own band, a grafter through and through...but again, never had total consistency due to the booze, bless him. That leaves (honourable mentions to Richie and CJ of course) Johnny, Joey and Dee Dee.

Dee Dee (rip) wrote GREAT songs, was a goodlooking mofo, and had that RAMONES attitude like no other, but once again, weakness of character I suppose was his downfall and led to his far too early demise. I have to say sadly for me that eliminates him, leaving Johnny and Joey..

I'm a conservative guy in many ways and identify with Johnny's (rip) hard right political stance, his buzzsaw guitar was the very essence of RAMONES, and he was a total outsider, which is how I see the band and their fans. He was the glue that held 'em together too, the disciplinarian. Whereas Joey (rip) was a liberal, typical artistic temperament, hard working mind, but more scatterbrain, and of course the insane levels of OCD. A tough call alright...

Sooo...I say to myself who is the one RAMONE more than any other who symbolizes, well, RAMONES, and without whom they simply wouldn't be the same. Who is most irreplaceable if you will..

For me, and I'd happily accept any other opinion on this because it's open ended, that has to be the the 6ft 6 FREAK out front. Whereas (merely!) 'legends' defines the others, ICONIC must be reserved for Joey. That voice. That look. That level of freakishness. Yet humanitarian, idealistic, basically a good guy at heart. To this old diehard Joey is the man. And I say is because he'll never die. He walks among us still.

GABBA GABBA HEY!

 

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Just watched the Thin Lizzy doc you posted up in that thread @Trail and I've been reminiscing about all the great music from that era. Great post. :good

Who is your favourite RAMONE T? It's an unfair question I know, but still. I think Tommy (rip) inventing that drum sound is a genius, but he never liked the life and quit early on, so that's him out for me. Marky, what a legend, still going strong with his own band, a grafter through and through...but again, never had total consistency due to the booze, bless him. That leaves (honourable mentions to Richie and CJ of course) Johnny, Joey and Dee Dee.

Dee Dee (rip) wrote GREAT songs, was a goodlooking mofo, and had that RAMONES attitude like no other, but once again, weakness of character I suppose was his downfall and led to his far too early demise. I have to say sadly for me that eliminates him, leaving Johnny and Joey..

I'm a conservative guy in many ways and identify with Johnny's (rip) hard right political stance, his buzzsaw guitar was the very essence of RAMONES, and he was a total outsider, which is how I see the band and their fans. He was the glue that held 'em together too, the disciplinarian. Whereas Joey (rip) was a liberal, typical artistic temperament, hard working mind but more scatterbrain, and of course the insane levels of OCD. A tough call alright...

Sooo...I say to myself who is the one RAMONE more than any other who symbolizes, well, the band themselves, and without whom they simply wouldn't be the same. Who is most irreplaceable if you will..

For me, and I'd happily accept any other opinion on this because it's open ended, that has to be the the 6ft 6 FREAK out front. Whereas (merely!) 'legends' defines the others, ICONIC must be reserved for Joey. That voice. That look. That level of freakishness. Yet humanitarian, idealistic, basically a good guy at heart. To this old diehard Joey is the man. And I say is because he'll never die. He walks among us still.

GABBA GABBA HEY!

Glad you enjoyed Lizzy doc.

Fave Ramone - Joey. Genius for looking goofy, singing badly, writing great songs, and fronting arguably the greatest band ever. That's no mean feat.

Johnny, I'm the same as you; right wing bossy type...but kept the band so tight. Tommy and Dee Dee gave us one of the best rhythm sections bar none.

Without one the rest would be lost. Honorable mentions for Mark and CJ.

The RAMONES are so complex yet so simple. If you've never studied them you don't quite understand them like we all should. Too many people think da brudders are just a shit band who write two minute songs that all sound the same. Of course. Some people just won't understand.

When I saw RAMONES in Manchester they played 33 songs in 75 minutes. I'm still dizzy and that was 20+ years ago.

Beautiful.

I trust you've seen End of a Century documentary, Ant?
 
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Arty Vega was a hell of a good guy. For a few years I was selling RAMONES t shirts on eBay and he was my supplier. I ordered loads of stuff from him and every single order arrived with a shitload of freebies; extra t shirts and other garments, postcards and posters, badges, stickers you name it, even a Joey bobble head desk toy. I had several transatlantic phone calls with Arty and he was an absolute gent who lived, loved, breathed and bled RAMONES. I feel blessed to have known the man who created that iconic logo.

Here's the man himself showing off his tattoo of the design.

 
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Arty Vega was a hell of a good guy. For a few years I was selling RAMONES t shirts on eBay and he was my supplier. I ordered loads of stuff from him and every single order arrived with a shitload of freebies; extra t shirts and other garments, postcards and posters, badges, stickers you name it, even a Joey bobble head desk toy. I had several transatlantic phone calls with him and he was an absolute gent who lived, loved, breathed and bled RAMONES. I feel blessed to have known the man who created that iconic logo.

Here's the man himself showing off his tattoo of the design.

Shit,

You still got any merch yourself you want to sell?