If Srisaket Beats Estrada Again, Is He P4P #1?

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First of all, apologies about starting another P4P discussion.

But when I look at most people's P4P lists, there's usually one general thought that comes to mind: Srisaket is underrated.

In fact, it seems like most only begrudgingly put him in their lists. A token gesture. Yet when compared to his other P4P rivals, he is the only one to have three elite wins in recent years. Even when you consider the contentious nature of Srisaket's first victory over Chocolatito -- the widely regarded P4P #1 at the time -- Canelo is usually ranked ahead despite a similar situation with his second fight against GGG. And then Srisaket scored a conclusive victory in his second bout against Chocolatito. Then he beat Estrada, who was usually on the fringes of the P4P top 10 at the time. Aside from the aforementioned Canelo, the only other boxer on the P4P list to beat someone in the top 10 was Spence. And his win over Mikey has massive question marks due to the size disparity.

Is Srisaket being 'punished' because he's not as aesthetically pleasing from a technical boxing point of view? Is it because he is in the lower weights and away from mainstream coverage? Or is he ranked correctly among the bottom half of the P4P top 10?

And if he does the double over Estrada at the weekend, how much will/should this affect his position among boxing's top operators?
 
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Well, I don't think it's because of his technique. Usyk gets no respect either, and his technique is brilliant. I think it's just that people don't follow the lower weights. I remember people were mad as hell that Gonzalez was p4p #1 and some were putting Klitschko above him. Not on this forum, but others I lurk on.
 

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Well, I don't think it's because of his technique. Usyk gets no respect either, and his technique is brilliant. I think it's just that people don't follow the lower weights. I remember people were mad as hell that Gonzalez was p4p #1 and some were putting Klitschko above him. Not on this forum, but others I lurk on.
On what planet does Usyk not get respect? Plenty of people here actually think he is going to clean out the Heavyweights.
 
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On what planet does Usyk not get respect? Plenty of people here actually think he is going to clean out the Heavyweights.
I've not seen any mainstream p4p lists with him as the #1. Instead, most I've seen have Crawford and Lomachenko above him when, imo, there is no argument having either above him.

Hell, most arguments in mainstream media is about Lomachenko vs. Crawford as #1 p4p. I'm not talking about people on here, btw. I know most here know their boxing. It's mainly what's being discussed in the mainstream.
 
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It's easier to rate fighters in a pound for pound sense if they move through weights. SSR has massive wins over 2 fighters but he looked bigger than both, particularly Gonzalez. I favour Spence to beat Crawford but Crawford is ranked higher pound for pound as he has won belts in 3 weight classes.
 
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I've not seen any mainstream p4p lists with him as the #1. Instead, most I've seen have Crawford and Lomachenko above him when, imo, there is no argument having either above him.

Hell, most arguments in mainstream media is about Lomachenko vs. Crawford as #1 p4p. I'm not talking about people on here, btw. I know most here know their boxing. It's mainly what's being discussed in the mainstream.
As @Deadendgeneration mentions, the fact Usyk has done all his work (so far) in one division probably counts against him at the moment. Although that should change if/when he starts picking up notable wins at heavyweight.
 
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this fight is tonight holy shit didnt know, I think Soto is going to beat the shit out of Jessie Vargas
 
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Sriskrat is an odd one. I noticed that when they do muay thai, it's from Orthodox, but go southpaw when they box