Insane SJW examples of bullshit "microaggressions"

Broxi

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its corporate ass covering,eh?

they are afraid of the very loud twitter mob coming after them............and that blowing up in the outrage media.............the two things give the whole thing an unnatural weight compared to their actual size and power...........people just dont want the hassle

I suspect that if twitter banned a select 10,000 people total,we wouldnt hear anything about this shit ever again outside some real,more serious issues with sexism and the like.........
We can't claim that this movement is gaining no traction whilst simultaneously acknowledging that massive financial institutions are shaping policy due to fear of 10k strong Twitter mob backlash.

It either has effect in the real world and in peoples real lives or it doesn't and the evidence suggests it does... even in the construction industry in the UK, you make comments against the grain of equity and diversity at your peril. One of the conditions in a contract we signed up for included the agreement that you couldn't harass someone (among all the usual racial, gender, trans, religious stuff which is fine) on the basis of "marital status" ... to this day I can't work out how you harass someone on the basis of their marital status...

"Ha ha, you're married ya cunt" :conf

At least when we got to that part of the conditions, we all kinda laughed at the idea.
 

Broxi

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It's gaining plenty of traction in the real world. Look at the BBC news page any given day, look at the list of people fired or forced to step down due to Twitter mob outrage. We've seen professors forced out of jobs in US Universities for simply suggesting that students self police on what is an okay costume to wear for Halloween, and the Labour party included in their General Election manifesto financial grants for training for women and people of colour. Quite literally anyone other than white men could apply for funding to be trained in new green energy jobs. It was a tiny part of the manifesto, but it was there.
The thing that gets me about this and I might be talking out my arse but isn't the trend that young white boys are failing more than most other groups, particularly girls... more girls are gaining entry to University, more women are becoming millionaires than men, more men are committing suicide and ending up sleeping on the street, more men are dying of cancer .... fuck, I even hear more men are dying of Coronvirus.

I dunno, it just doesn't seem to me that in 2020, women are particularly oppressed or at a disadvantage, whether in academia, business or politics.
 
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The thing that gets me about this and I might be talking out my arse but isn't the trend that young white boys are failing more than most other groups, particularly girls... more girls are gaining entry to University, more women are becoming millionaires than men, more men are committing suicide and ending up sleeping on the street, more men are dying of cancer .... fuck, I even hear more men are dying of Coronvirus.

I dunno, it just doesn't seem to me that in 2020, women are particularly oppressed or at a disadvantage, whether in academia, business or politics.
Yeah it's insane. White working class boys are the lowest-performing group in education. Women actually earn more aged 18-24 than men, and the gap is so small as to be irrelevant up until 30, and that's going off the ONS figures that always get thrown about in "gender pay gap" bollocks. Men make up most suicides and the homeless, as you say...more NHS funding is spent on female-specific health initiatives, the criminal justice system is FAR more lenient to women.

But, I don't think men have it worse, it's better for men in many other aspects of life, but women in the UK sure as fuck do not have a harder life than men. It's laughable.
 

Broxi

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Yeah it's insane. White working class boys are the lowest-performing group in education. Women actually earn more aged 18-24 than men, and the gap is so small as to be irrelevant up until 30, and that's going off the ONS figures that always get thrown about in "gender pay gap" bollocks. Men make up most suicides and the homeless, as you say...more NHS funding is spent on female-specific health initiatives, the criminal justice system is FAR more lenient to women.

But, I don't think men have it worse, it's better for men in many other aspects of life, but women in the UK sure as fuck do not have a harder life than men. It's laughable.
I'd love someone to actually pose the question to the likes of Jess Phillips in relation to the programs and initiatives in place for young girls and women, "what she thinks the reasons are that men are failing in all of these areas?"

I'd like to see how dismissive she is of it or whether she can resist going down the gender essentialism route of girls just being smarter or more productive than boys. Either way, what's her plans for accounting for this problem? Not much I'd hazard a guess.

I don't think either men or women have it worse, just different issues, challenges and problems.
 
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I'd love someone to actually pose the question to the likes of Jess Phillips in relation to the programs and initiatives in place for young girls and women, "what she thinks the reasons are that men are failing in all of these areas?"

I'd like to see how dismissive she is of it or whether she can resist going down the gender essentialism route of girls just being smarter or more productive than boys. Either way, what's her plans for accounting for this problem? Not much I'd hazard a guess.

I don't think either men or women have it worse, just different issues, challenges and problems.
Exactly.
 
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@Broxi and @Strike make very good points. In the UK white males are the most underperforming group and in the UK (and probably US) white males are the highest suicide % and between 20/30 have lower earning than girls.

Problem is were guys on a forum. We need someone in authority to stand up and say this, but they won't because they're scared of being labelled racist or sexist by these mobs.

The way poor white families have been encouraged to stay poor and white from as far back as the Blair/brown years is horrific. I'm wondering if they can actually climb of of that hole now? How do you instill a work/education ethic in someone who has 3/4 generations of jobless parents and grandparents? What can you do to make them understand it's importance?

And then there's the working class males who just kill themselves outright because theyre not allowed to address their issues. Which lets be honest extend way past this SJW culture.

A prime example would be the bias towards women in divorce. Men can feel trapped, helpless. Before and after. Everything is on them whilst women are champions as the underdog.

There's so many sides to this coin, issues that really need addressing.

Any volunteers to go on Twitter or to their place of work and speak out?.....
 
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And the issues with poor white families are eeirly similar (in my opinion) to those of black people, especially historically in the US. Stop encouraging lethargic mindsets. Stop pandering. Stop making excuses and start creating role models. Begin criticizing. Make them aspire.
 

Broxi

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@Broxi and @Strike make very good points. In the UK white males are the most underperforming group and in the UK (and probably US) white males are the highest suicide % and between 20/30 have lower earning than girls.

Problem is were guys on a forum. We need someone in authority to stand up and say this, but they won't because they're scared of being labelled racist or sexist by these mobs.

The way poor white families have been encouraged to stay poor and white from as far back as the Blair/brown years is horrific. I'm wondering if they can actually climb of of that hole now? How do you instill a work/education ethic in someone who has 3/4 generations of jobless parents and grandparents? What can you do to make them understand it's importance?

And then there's the working class males who just kill themselves outright because theyre not allowed to address their issues. Which lets be honest extend way past this SJW culture.

A prime example would be the bias towards women in divorce. Men can feel trapped, helpless. Before and after. Everything is on them whilst women are champions as the underdog.

There's so many sides to this coin, issues that really need addressing.

Any volunteers to go on Twitter or to their place of work and speak out?.....
Not me, I'm perma-banned for speaking out... :conf
 

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It's gaining plenty of traction in the real world. Look at the BBC news page any given day, look at the list of people fired or forced to step down due to Twitter mob outrage. We've seen professors forced out of jobs in US Universities for simply suggesting that students self police on what is an okay costume to wear for Halloween, and the Labour party included in their General Election manifesto financial grants for training for women and people of colour. Quite literally anyone other than white men could apply for funding to be trained in new green energy jobs. It was a tiny part of the manifesto, but it was there.
1] that shit tends to be over there on crazy island

2] it seems to have died down some,even there

3] even given the rate of it there it seems that its like murders...............rates are low [and falling] but COVERAGE is way up so people think murder is up,eh?

4] the outrage media does a lot to perpetuate it because it sells........a lot of it would die off if,lets say,the BBC DIDNT cover 'twitter mobs' because,quite frankly,why should they? a bunch of upset freaks,a splinter on a platform used by a splinter of the population isnt actually 'news' is it?

5] I dont think the actual media here pays much attention to it,all things considered,and that robs the mob of a large part of its power............a storm on twitter is just that,an isolated tempest in a teacup disconnected from most of the real world

maybe Im wrong but it FEELS right.................
 

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We can't claim that this movement is gaining no traction whilst simultaneously acknowledging that massive financial institutions are shaping policy due to fear of 10k strong Twitter mob backlash.

It either has effect in the real world and in peoples real lives or it doesn't and the evidence suggests it does... even in the construction industry in the UK, you make comments against the grain of equity and diversity at your peril. One of the conditions in a contract we signed up for included the agreement that you couldn't harass someone (among all the usual racial, gender, trans, religious stuff which is fine) on the basis of "marital status" ... to this day I can't work out how you harass someone on the basis of their marital status...

"Ha ha, you're married ya cunt" :conf

At least when we got to that part of the conditions, we all kinda laughed at the idea.
if it effects 2% of the population Im not seeing it as a particularly widespread problem

yes,it exists,yes its made an impact in some places but Ive yet to encounter it in the real world and Id bet thats the same for most people...........
 

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if it effects 2% of the population Im not seeing it as a particularly widespread problem

yes,it exists,yes its made an impact in some places but Ive yet to encounter it in the real world and Id bet thats the same for most people...........
"Yet"

There's multiple people on this board who have spoke about how this effects them at work, people in education, public services, financial companies, anyone working in a sizeable corporation who have to conform to practises and opinions which they whole-heartedly would reject if they were given a choice, so it's clearly far more than 2% and I don't see any great push back on TV or in education against intersectionality and SJW rhetoric... so no, if it's not already a widespread problem then it's becoming one.

I, like you, am fortunate enough to work in a company and industry where I'm fairly insulated from all of this but I can easily imagine working somewhere where I'm being lectured or perhaps fired for having an opinion that there are biological difference between men and women.

There's a discussion going on above this post about widespread serious issues affecting men and the narrative that men, particularly straight white men are historical oppressors and we therefore need initiatives to help everyone but them hurts any cause for resolving those issues, so although it doesn't affect you, it definitely affects other people.
 

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"Yet"

There's multiple people on this board who have spoke about how this effects them at work, people in education, public services, financial companies, anyone working in a sizeable corporation who have to conform to practises and opinions which they whole-heartedly would reject if they were given a choice, so it's clearly far more than 2% and I don't see any great push back on TV or in education against intersectionality and SJW rhetoric... so no, if it's not already a widespread problem then it's becoming one.

I, like you, am fortunate enough to work in a company and industry where I'm fairly insulated from all of this but I can easily imagine working somewhere where I'm being lectured or perhaps fired for having an opinion that there are biological difference between men and women.

There's a discussion going on above this post about widespread serious issues affecting men and the narrative that men, particularly straight white men are historical oppressors and we therefore need initiatives to help everyone but them hurts any cause for resolving those issues, so although it doesn't affect you, it definitely affects other people.
multiple anecdotal examples on a website that may select for people more likely to experience it by some means

Im not convinced its a massive problem.................at least not here in the US...............it IS an issue,but even as reported [sensationalized] its only in a very small sector...............the aforementioned massive corporations worried about bad publicity,for instance...........SOME of them........at SOME levels in them........and thats just not representative of the general population............its a tiny fraction of the population,in fact............

when I dont pay attention to social media,its a problem that I never hear about..............and its a problem Ive never encountered in the wild..........

so,yeah,I guess Ill wait and see but Im not really worried right now.............
 

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multiple anecdotal examples on a website that may select for people more likely to experience it by some means
A boxing forum, how?

If by male, then maybe but there's a good cross section of people on this board, how many anecdotal accounts do you need before you accept it's problem which affects people in general?

Im not convinced its a massive problem... .at least not here in the US... it IS an issue,but even as reported its only in a very small sector... the aforementioned massive corporations worried about bad publicity, for instance...........SOME of them........at SOME levels in them........and thats just not representative of the general population............its a tiny fraction of the population,in fact............

when I dont pay attention to social media,its a problem that I never hear about..............and its a problem Ive never encountered in the wild..........

so,yeah,I guess Ill wait and see but Im not really worried right now.............
I mean in terms of world problems, it's not up there with world hunger, the melting of the ice caps or substance addiction but it's a still a problem for many people other than the likes of s.

The whole problem with these companies and it won't just be big corporations is that they're doing this because of the fear of bad publicity, or Twitter mobs... that's the most alarming thing, I watched a JRE the other day and they were talking about a guy who applied for a job and was sent a 300 page document listing all of his social media comments, likes and retweets that they defined as "bad" or problematic.

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Look at the shit he's being pulled up for... this is just a normal guy going for a job... there's no way this isn't grounded in the type of stuff this thread is about.
 
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A boxing forum, how?
people who spend time on the internet talking

we are a minority

I SUSPECT we tend to be,on the average,somewhat better off than most and maybe better educated,as a whole........

maybe Im wrong.........

If by male, then maybe but there's a good cross section of people on this board, how many anecdotal accounts do you need before you accept it's problem which affects people in general?
Im willing to accept it may be different in the UK but in the US Im simply not seeing it


I mean in terms of world problems, it's not up there with world hunger, the melting of the ice caps or substance addiction but it's a still a problem for many people other than the likes of s.

The whole problem with these companies and it won't just be big corporations is that they're doing this because of the fear of bad publicity, or Twitter mobs... that's the most alarming thing, I watched a JRE the other day and they were talking about a guy who applied for a job and was sent a 300 page document listing all of his social media comments, likes and retweets that they defined as "bad" or problematic.

(time-stamped)

Look at the shit he's being pulled up for... this is just a normal guy going for a job... there's no way this isn't grounded in the type of stuff this thread is about.
Could you tell me what the job he is applying for is?
 

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thought this belonged here given the context of the whole thing

thank fuck the case was picked back up...............nobody should be allowed to get away with that sort of shit
 

Broxi

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people who spend time on the internet talking

we are a minority

I SUSPECT we tend to be,on the average,somewhat better off than most and maybe better educated,as a whole........

maybe Im wrong.........
I think you might be :lol:

Im willing to accept it may be different in the UK but in the US Im simply not seeing it

Could you tell me what the job he is applying for is?
I've no idea tbh, it says FAMA at the top of the page but I dunno if that's just the background check service.
 
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yes,its not gaining traction just like the majority of stupid fringe shit that happens when kids think they know something..........

how many copies of Ayn rand and the Satanic Bible do you think are kicking around on the same campuses?

Edgy super woke nonsense that 99% of kids leave behind as they grow up and learn something about the real world.........

People make good money pretending this shit is a serious issue though..............outrage media sells,eh?

are you joking? we just had a court case in australia that essentially made it illegal to deport anybody claiming to be aboriginal.. doesnt matter if they were born overseas to parents of a different nationality.. if they have the faintest trace of indigenous ancestry they cant be booted because of their "inalienable connection to the land" or some shit.. thats a clear slap in the face to the concept of blind justice.. the law actually seperates us by the colour of our skin now. we just had our largest airline publicly announce that if youre not all for guys fucking eachother in the ass then youre not welcome on the airline.. this identitarian shit is seeping into every corner of our society and its not just dangerous its fucking malicious.. this is just the tip of the iceberg. i could give you a thousand more examples. its a cancer and well beyond the scope of just harmless misinformed kids rebelling against the "normies".
 

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are you joking? we just had a court case in australia that essentially made it illegal to deport anybody claiming to be aboriginal.. doesnt matter if they were born overseas to parents of a different nationality.. if they have the faintest trace of indigenous ancestry they cant be booted because of their "inalienable connection to the land" or some shit.. thats a clear slap in the face to the concept of blind justice.. the law actually seperates us by the colour of our skin now. we just had our largest airline publicly announce that if youre not all for guys fucking eachother in the ass then youre not welcome on the airline.. this identitarian shit is seeping into every corner of our society and its not just dangerous its fucking malicious.. this is just the tip of the iceberg. i could give you a thousand more examples. its a cancer and well beyond the scope of just harmless misinformed kids rebelling against the "normies".
OK

ya cant deport an 'american' who is born overseas either,eh?

its been that way since.............um................forever.............

why should yall be able to deport an aboriginal who happened to be born overseas?

the airline thing is.................well............what,exactly?

how do they know what you believe?

how can they enforce it?

is it actually WORDED that way or maybe is it a bit less radical sounding ?

as far as I know,that would be an illegal policy here BTW................

so,despite the US being quite shit in a lot of ways,we are also somewhat better protected when it comes to freedom of speech and ideas I think..............