Is conspiracy garbage/misinformation a serious problem in Western society?

Haggis

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Do you see conspiracy garbage as being a worrying problem in Western societies?

Or not really?

Personally, I view it as a big problem. It's WAY more influential and destructive than it used to be. And that shit is poison, IMO.

Have you noticed an uptick in conspiracy bullshit post-9/11?

Do you think it's a problem, or something that social media companies in particular should be worried about and trying to do something about?

How many people in your life are youtube/Facebook conspiracy goons, or have caught you off guard by casually referring to some insane shit? (one of my friend's mothers is very worried about the new robot police, for example - thanks, Facebook. :rolleyes)

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SwollenGoat

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yes,it is

obviously

the advent of the internet has made dumb people think they understand things because they have easy access to other dumb people and 'books' and 'schooling' and faggit shit like that aint required anymore

the access to information has made it possible for even retards to gather information and they are too stupid to know how to sort it.....................

facebook is a bizzaro world of batshit insanity BECAUSE its 'just people'

ffs,flat earthers are growing in number...................
 
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It's a problem in society full stop. It's just as bad, if not worse, in the rest of the world.


People have always been gullible and stupid, but it's now easier than ever to fill your head with garbage.

I would say it's become more commonplace and accepted in the west over my lifetime, and it's clear the Internet is the cause.
 

Dazl1212

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Yes, 100% the amount of supposedly "normal' people who I know how think covid isn't real/is overblown/is made for population control/is a hoax to take our freedoms' is frankly scary and frustrating, to the point I just don't discuss it with people anymore.

I used to laugh at Americans (mainly gun owner conspiracy yards) for the amount of 'muh freedoms' crap, but it's spread over here now.
 

Dazl1212

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It's a problem in society full stop. It's just as bad, if not worse, in the rest of the world.


People have always been gullible and stupid, but it's now easier than ever to fill your head with garbage.

I would say it's become more commonplace and accepted in the west over my lifetime, and it's clear the Internet is the cause.
The same people who when you quiz them on anything tell you to "do your research" which usually involves watching random YouTube videos.
 

Haggis

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The same people who when you quiz them on anything tell you to "do your research" which usually involves watching random YouTube videos.
One of the most frustrating things for me to hear is some idiot saying "I've been researching......" when what they actually mean is "I've been trawling Facebook conspiracy groups, following conspiracy twitter accounts, and watching conspiracy YouTube videos."

Drives me fucking nuts, that does. Oh, you've been "researching" how the "mainstream media" is "fake news"..... but you can't tell me who Roger Ailes was or what the Fairness Doctrine was? Fuck outta here with your bullshit "research". :patsch

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Yes, 100% the amount of supposedly "normal' people who I know how think covid isn't real/is overblown/is made for population control/is a hoax to take our freedoms' is frankly scary and frustrating, to the point I just don't discuss it with people anymore.

I used to laugh at Americans (mainly gun owner conspiracy yards) for the amount of 'muh freedoms' crap, but it's spread over here now.

I know right what fools. I mean to actually believe you have a right to defend yourself Is crazy. Obviously guns belong in the hands of criminals only.
 

Dazl1212

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I know right what fools. I mean to actually believe you have a right to defend yourself Is crazy. Obviously guns belong in the hands of criminals only.
Think you've misunderstood me here. I'm not arguing about gun control, I'm on about the crazies who think mass shootings are a hoaxes designed to take their guns.
 

Haggis

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I know right what fools. I mean to actually believe you have a right to defend yourself Is crazy. Obviously guns belong in the hands of criminals only.

So binary. :sad

Hey Pete, can you comprehend this?



What about this?



Recognise either of those....... or not so much?

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would you consider WMDs in Iraq misinformation?
What do you mean?

Do you believe that the UK government overstated the threat of wmd's in Iraq to gain support for a war?

Yes, that's probable. Government misleads public to get support for a war is a pretty common activity. It's also a reasonable conspiracy to believe in because its possible and there is real evidence.

It also wasn't unreasonable for the public to believe they did have wmds until we found out more. Evil dictator builds weapon is also pretty probable and makes sense.

They are not comparable to the earth being flat or the world being run by lizard people. Those are less likely and have much less credible evidence.

To believe something like that you would want more evidence, and evidence of higher quality than you would for a more mundane and realistic belief.
 

Dazl1212

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are UFOs just conspiracy garbage?
Not IMO, there's definitely something going on with some UFOs, definitely some that are unexplained by current science. One of the most fascinating unexplained mystery's to me, with a healthy dose of very clever hoaxes chucked into the mix :lol:
 
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Do you believe that the UK government overstated the threat of wmd's in Iraq to gain support for a war?

Yes, that's probable. Government misleads public to get support for a war is a pretty common activity. It's also a reasonable conspiracy to believe in because its possible and there is real evidence.
Is it probable that the Government has overstated the effects of Covid to mislead the public?
 
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Is it probable that the Government has overstated the effects of Covid to mislead the public?
No, and it's completely different to the Iraq situation.


There is little benefit to the government, all the evidence suggests otherwise, and this is truly international.

It would need the cooperation of all the countries, the vast majority of media, science, and business, and the collusion of rank and file health care staff and the general public.




The Iraq stuff makes sense.

Blair wanted a legacy, we took out an enemy, and we got more control of a valuable resource.

It's also very difficult for the public to check the truth themselves, (how would an average Joe in the uk check for wmds in Iraq? ), and you would only need to control a small amount of classified information.




The covid conspiracies don't make sense.


Covid is fucking what Boris wanted for his legacy, its crippling the economy, its very easy for the average person to find out the truth, and there is too much public information to control.


There is nothing wrong with being open to conspiracies, you just need to learn to apply some critical thinking. How probable is something, what evidence is there, how credible is the evidence, what is the source, and how credible is that source.