Is the meat industry as we know it on borrowed time?

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and where has that population mostly come from you stupid wop cunt??....
3rd world shitholes like africa, china and india.... you know...... the same places that have had exponentially DECLINING birth rates since the 70s.
populations that will continue to decline as they urbanise and raise the status and education of their female populations.
pick up a book dumbfuck. even the most hysterical estimates think the earth will top out at 11-14 billion.
wop cunt ??
Wop ???

I am as Germanic racially superior as can be and you yankee inbred mixed blood call me a wop ???

stupidity at its peak..
 
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oh and that is not to much ?????

7 billion is already way to much

several animals are going extinct in the comming 50 years

global warming

sea pollution

but in you’re eyes there is nothing wrong ???

you yanks have a bigger carbon footprint then the whole of Africa
*Ahem, he's a bogan, not American. Dumb as fuck too. You're just gonna waste your time. Call him a stupid cunt and go about your day.
 
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and where has that population mostly come from you stupid wop cunt??....
3rd world shitholes like africa, china and india.... you know...... the same places that have had exponentially DECLINING birth rates since the 70s.
populations that will continue to decline as they urbanise and raise the status and education of their female populations.
pick up a book dumbfuck. even the most hysterical estimates think the earth will top out at 11-14 billion.
ps if it tops at 14 billion as you say it’s still doubled as I originally said it would in 100 years

learn to comprehensively read
 
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oh and that is not to much ?????

7 billion is already way to much

several animals are going extinct in the comming 50 years

global warming

sea pollution

but in you’re eyes there is nothing wrong ???

you yanks have a bigger carbon footprint then the whole of Africa

tell us some more fairy tales.. these are wonderful
 
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wop cunt ??
Wop ???

I am as Germanic racially superior as can be and you yankee inbred mixed blood call me a wop ???

stupidity at its peak..


ive told you 900 times im australian you cant seem to get this through your thick head so im just going to start referring to you as whatever i want you inbred hick dilbert irish bog bastard.
 
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ps if it tops at 14 billion as you say it’s still doubled as I originally said it would in 100 years

learn to comprehensively read

IF it happened (hint,..... it isnt) it certainly wouldnt be in the next 100 years dumbfuck. learn to comprehensively think
 
Jun 3, 2013
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Eating beef is not efficient use of farm land. I can’t remember the numbers but maybe 5 times less food to feed a animal slaughter it and eat it.

But maybe just meat restrictions. Eating meat every other day. Or just one meal of day with meat.

Animal cruelty should be limited also while the animals to be slaughtered are alive. But if it were not for people wanting to eat them they would never have been alive in the first place. So if more people were vegans there would be less animals living and more where dead things are.
You do realise that if nobody ate meat we'd still have to kill animals anyway right?

If we didn't eat meat animal populations would explode and they would be our direct compitition for food. So we'd have to slaughter them anyway.
 
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You do realise that if nobody ate meat we'd still have to kill animals anyway right?

If we didn't eat meat animal populations would explode and they would be our direct compitition for food. So we'd have to slaughter them anyway.
That's only because commercial farming has grossly over expanded the population beyond what nature would have alllowed.

If we hadn't bred billions of farm animals, then we wouldn't need to kill them.

It will need to be a gradual reduction. Can't just stop overnight.

Biggest factor will be the market. If people stop buying animal products then they will be farmed less.
 
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That's only because commercial farming has grossly over expanded the population beyond what nature would have alllowed.

If we hadn't bred billions of farm animals, then we wouldn't need to kill them.

It will need to be a gradual reduction. Can't just stop overnight.

Biggest factor will be the market. If people stop buying animal products then they will be farmed less.
Yeah but if we only ate vegetation then we'd be in direct competition with all the world's herbivores so we'd have to cull animals anyway. Especially because we won't be eating wild game either, the populations will get out of control and they'd be competing with us for food.

Thats my point when it comes to virtue signalling vegan dickheads. If all of humanity just stopped eating meat we'd still have to kill animals.
 
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Yeah but if we only ate vegetation then we'd be in direct competition with all the world's herbivores so we'd have to cull animals anyway. Especially because we won't be eating wild game either, the populations will get out of control and they'd be competing with us for food.

Thats my point when it comes to virtue signalling vegan dickheads. If all of humanity just stopped eating meat we'd still have to kill animals.
Well, we bred them to numbers they wouldn't have reached naturally, transported them all over the world, and killed their natural predators.

Without that intervention we are not really in competition. Not in places where food is readily available, and we have modern science. A small herd of cows aren't stealing my quorn burger.

Different in Africa for example, where there are larger herds and less available food. I don't think anyone takes issue with subsistence farmers or hunters though.

Its just the industrialised farming in developed countries that us deemed as unnecessary, harmful to the environment, and needlessly cruel.
 
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Well, we bred them to numbers they wouldn't have reached naturally, transported them all over the world, and killed their natural predators.

Without that intervention we are not really in competition. Not in places where food is readily available, and we have modern science. A small herd of cows aren't stealing my quorn burger.

Different in Africa for example, where there are larger herds and less available food. I don't think anyone takes issue with subsistence farmers or hunters though.

Its just the industrialised farming in developed countries that us deemed as unnecessary, harmful to the environment, and needlessly cruel.
I agree with all that but it's not what I'm talking about.

What I'm talking about probably doesn't belong in this thread but what I'm getting at is that most people who don't eat meat or use any animal products are doing so on principle based values.

They don't believe in the killing of animals for any purpose including to eat or for use as products, hence how barely anyone wears fur any more.

So what I'm saying is its a stupid value to have because one way or another we'll have to kill them.

If we all stopped eating meat certain types of wildlife populations will grow out of control. Cullings happen because they are absolutely necessary and would only become more so if humans were all vegan.

There's no way around it, we need to kill animals, simple as that.
 
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I've definitely cut down on my meat consumption, especially red meat. Still eat chicken and fish but overall I do eat more vegetarian/vegan meals. A lot of it was to do with diet. I've had persistent stomach issues for however many years so for at least the past year (probably more) I've changed up a lot of my eating habits and don't have the same issues I used to. Still love cheese but I won't eat as much oily cheese's so pizzas aren't as prevalent as before. There's some amazing vegan food out there so it's not like I've had to sacrifice flavor. I'm not against people eating meat but I sometimes wish they would curb their intake. That much red meat all the time isn't the best thing for a lot of these folks.
 
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I agree with all that but it's not what I'm talking about.

What I'm talking about probably doesn't belong in this thread but what I'm getting at is that most people who don't eat meat or use any animal products are doing so on principle based values.

They don't believe in the killing of animals for any purpose including to eat or for use as products, hence how barely anyone wears fur any more.

So what I'm saying is its a stupid value to have because one way or another we'll have to kill them.

If we all stopped eating meat certain types of wildlife populations will grow out of control. Cullings happen because they are absolutely necessary and would only become more so if humans were all vegan.

There's no way around it, we need to kill animals, simple as that.
You say that we need to kill animals, I do think necessity has some place in the morality of killing animals.

If you live in the developed world and you have a reasonable income you don't need to eat animal products.

You can survive, and thrive, without them. I therefore think it is wrong to kill them just for the pleasure of eating them.

If you need to kill to survive. Because you are starving, or the animal will kill you, or eat all your food, then I think that is morally acceptable.

I also don't see how that is happening in the developed world. Out with a swarm of pests destroying crops, or carrying disease to humans, what animals do you need to kill in Europe?

What animals will multiply out of control and need culled? Cows? Pigs? Chickens? Where will this happen?
 
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Nothing in my lifetime I don't think, except for a rise in price.

Kids will be eating insects:lol:

They're finding it very, very difficult to make non-lean meats in the lab but there's some really good news about lean meats by all accounts.

Years from a lab steak though.
 
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What animals will multiply out of control and need culled? Cows? Pigs? Chickens? Where will this happen?
Fucking terrifying though.

I read a book about what would happen to the world if humans vanished overnight, the science of it, and of the most shocking things were that the author (and research partners) didn't think dogs were viable. Too far removed, i mean all breeds. They reckoned that the dogs would last as long as the cows and that the cows wouldn't last that long.

Cats, pigs, good bet, but massive population decline.

Nothing bout chickens I remember.

Sorry for the derail.