Discussion Is Warrington being over-rated?

Jan 20, 2014
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Nope.

Simply asking the question but everyone on here as to resort to outrage and drama queen mode.

It's a valid question he hasn't beaten the best three or four fighters in the division.

It's clear to see Valdez is a by far more explosive puncher the Josh. He may have only knocked out fringe contenders as you say but Josh has knocked out no one.
Valdez hasn’t had a knock out in 2 years? Who’s his best win? Quigg? Quigg broke his jaw and gave him fits.
 
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Southpaw's alright but he's definitely one of the 'don't back down under any circumstance' types. He'll never concede ground.
I’m not saying Valdez isn’t a good fighter or a big puncher even, he just hasn’t proven himself. I mean if he beat Selby and Frampton people would be raving about him. Those are two massive wins Warrington deserves massive props and along with Santa Cruz is at the top of the division now. Sorry @SouthpawCounter
 
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I’m not saying Valdez isn’t a good fighter or a big puncher even, he just hasn’t proven himself. I mean if he beat Selby and Frampton people would be raving about him. Those are two massive wins Warrington deserves massive props and along with Santa Cruz is at the top of the division now. Sorry @SouthpawCounter
I know exactly what you're saying buddy. You've been quite clear actually.
 
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I have not said Warrington is overrated I am simply asking the question as to whether we are getting carried away with the wins.

I made this thread the GG one Purley to try and get some activity going on this dire boring forum.
 
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A weight drained Selby and undersized Frampton? We're all geniuses in retrospect.
I picked Warrington Pedders. Cited size, which you mention, and age. These are smaller guys and though they go on a longer the 30s CAN be a turning point. I also did NOT buy this Ive never been happier and in the best shape of my life with this new trainer stuff. Heard it too many times before.
I do NOT think he was as good as pre Santa Cruz and I think Frampton hit his peak when he beat him. Thats not to take anything away from Warrington,who I wanted to win. To answer the question I don't know. He's in a division where the little buggers come out the woodwork and Valdez would be a different proposition so the OP could be right. Hope not. Id like to see him defend against Scott Quigg first.
 
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I picked Warrington Pedders. Cited size, which you mention, and age. These are smaller guys and though they go on a longer the 30s CAN be a turning point. I also did NOT buy this Ive never been happier and in the best shape of my life with this new trainer stuff. Heard it too many times before.
I do NOT think he was as good as pre Santa Cruz and I think Frampton hit his peak when he beat him. Thats not to take anything away from Warrington,who I wanted to win. To answer the question I don't know. He's in a division where the little buggers come out the woodwork and Valdez would be a different proposition so the OP could be right. Hope not. Id like to see him defend against Scott Quigg first.
Congratulations mate. :good
 
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Valdez hasn’t had a knock out in 2 years? Who’s his best win? Quigg? Quigg broke his jaw and gave him fits.
Thats true. And Valdez hasn't fought since in 9 months. Thats why Im saying get a voluntary against Quigg first. Significant that Warrington mentioned Valdez though. He'd be a tough order but Ill bet he'd fight in Leeds. THEN they're the same age,Josh is a bit longer. Could be a 50 50 job or even in his favour.
 
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True that mate.

I feel Valdez handles him though
Maybe, but at each stage of his recent career he's been doubted, people saying 'hes not quite up there level wise'. I thought he was outstanding in the Frampton fight. Selby too. I'm willing to accept that the latter put in a poor performance, but against Frampton i think he just out fought him. I didnt think Frampton lost the fight as much as Warrington won it. Performance of the year for me, even ahead of Fury against Wilder i'd say.

As has been stated, it's hard not to 'overrate' a fighter or sportsman when their at the top of their game and winning huge contests. I think he's the stand out British boxer for me this year. Seems a nice lad too. I conclusion, i think it's fine for him to get a bit of hype at this stage. He deserves it. Seems the type to keep his feet on the ground though and hopefully push on and make 2019 even better.
 
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He had no choice, he lost every round and thinks of himself as an elite level fighter.

It's not just what he said though, Josh clearly and visibly hurt Carl badly in the first real exchange they had, he obviously hits harder than the 6 KOs would tell you considering how he consistently hurt Carl and Lee, two guys who good punch resistance, I don't think anybody would say he hits as hard as Valdez but Valdez is considered a huge puncher
 
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It's not just what he said though, Josh clearly and visibly hurt Carl badly in the first real exchange they had, he obviously hits harder than the 6 KOs would tell you considering how he consistently hurt Carl and Lee, two guys who good punch resistance, I don't think anybody would say he hits as hard as Valdez but Valdez is considered a huge puncher
I've seen fighters get slapped from pillar to post and then come out afterwards and claim never to have been hurt.

Frampton wasn't obligated to say he was hurt, he was just being sincere.
 
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It's not just what he said though, Josh clearly and visibly hurt Carl badly in the first real exchange they had, he obviously hits harder than the 6 KOs would tell you considering how he consistently hurt Carl and Lee, two guys who good punch resistance, I don't think anybody would say he hits as hard as Valdez but Valdez is considered a huge puncher
That's because he has hardly been caught clean by a genuine Featherweight mate.

Santa Cruz elected to box in the rematch, Garcia put him on the floor, Donaire is a Bantamweight and Luke Jackson was the second best Featherweight in Australlia.