Jaoquin Phoenix's Joker revealed

Jun 4, 2013
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Looks like a fucking clown, not The Joker.
It's an origin movie detailing his descent into madness. Looks like they're taking the approach of sad to happy to possibly insane. He clearly seems like he's depressed as a normal guy in the first few seconds.

Hard to be sure given the short clip though. Surely can't be worse than the suicide squads joker....touches wood....
 

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Hard to get excited for anyone bar Heath Ledger playing this character. I still maintain they should have retired the character. You can’t improve on perfection.
Can't disagree with that. Some people assert that his performance was over-rated and a hype job and had he not died it wouldn't be considered to be the bravura performance it is.

Which, in my opinion, is untrue. Whilst the actual film may not be flawless, his performance, within the context of the overall plot and the script, was. It was idiosyncratic and nuanced and that pretty much fucks anyone else trying to play the role afterwards. :lol: They will always be compared to Ledger's interpretation and will most likely come up short.

Co-incidentally, Gary Oldman came up against something of that nature a few years ago, which I've mentioned on here before. He took the role of George Smiley in the film version of Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy.
The problem he faced was that in the BBC TV series from about thirty years previously, Alec Guinness was absolutely colossal as Smiley - who is a very, very understated character. You can't Pacino Smiley. So Oldman got around it by essentially doing Gary Oldman impersonating Alec Guinness playing George Smiley. :rofl And he did a good job of doing Alec in what was the only real practical solution to an acting challenge.
 
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From what I've been reading, this is him as a failing comedian, so he's essentially not the Joker yet. As he gets more insane, I'm sure he'll start looking and acting the part. I think Joaquin will do a good job, better than Leto at least.
 
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It's an interesting idea for a film on paper and Phoenix is a very good fucking choice for the role but for some reason it doesn't feel right that the Joker should have an origin story. Heath Ledger will forever cast an enormous shadow over the role. Comparisons with Ledger's Joker are inevitable but I'm looking forward to seeing this.

Also worth noting the absolute retards over at WB and DC are planning another Joker film with Jared Leto's version.
 
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Does anybody agree with me that Heath Ledgers perfectly timed death added to his performance ten fold?call me a cynic but death makes a lot of celebrities untouchable, it turned Nirvana into an iconic all time great band with an all time great album, yet a band like Smashing Pumpkins were equally as big get nowhere near the recognition. It’s turned James Dean into an iconic actor, can you even name another actor from the 50s?

It was a good performance, but had he not died I guarantee it wouldn’t be remembered anywhere near as fondly. Dieing is a great career move for actors and musicians.
 
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Does anybody agree with me that Heath Ledgers perfectly timed death added to his performance ten fold?call me a cynic but death makes a lot of celebrities untouchable, it turned Nirvana into an iconic all time great band with an all time great album, yet a band like Smashing Pumpkins were equally as big get nowhere near the recognition. It’s turned James Dean into an iconic actor, can you even name another actor from the 50s?

It was a good performance, but had he not died I guarantee it wouldn’t be remembered anywhere near as fondly. Dieing is a great career move for actors and musicians.
No.

It was simply a fantastic performance that couldnt have been improved. Every scene involving him is golden and I have no idea what else you would expect.

It would have been massively hyped regardless of the death, a whole generation hadnt seen Nicholson's joker and this was their first introduction to the character.

They were rightly mindblown.
 
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Does anybody agree with me that Heath Ledgers perfectly timed death added to his performance ten fold?call me a cynic but death makes a lot of celebrities untouchable, it turned Nirvana into an iconic all time great band with an all time great album, yet a band like Smashing Pumpkins were equally as big get nowhere near the recognition. It’s turned James Dean into an iconic actor, can you even name another actor from the 50s?

It was a good performance, but had he not died I guarantee it wouldn’t be remembered anywhere near as fondly. Dieing is a great career move for actors and musicians.
Absolutely.
 

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Replace Heath Ledger with Jack Nicholson and I'd agree.
Nicholson's Joker was shit. He was never scary for even one second, and Nicholson didn't even give a fuck about the role. Show me another interpretation of the Joker other than his, where the Joker has a fucking pot belly. They paid him $20 million and he couldn't even be fucked to go on a diet. When the fuck has the Joker ever been fat, in any interpretation of the character over the last 70 years, except for Nicholson's version?

:hat