Aussie Jeff Horn vs Anthony Mundine

thehook13

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Sportsbet already offering speculative odds on Horn-Mundine:

Horn $1.36

Mundine $3
I noticed Johnny Lewis and Fenech sending warning to Horn not to under estimate Mundine. Citing Mundines confidence, speed, size/strength advantages. No doubt theres still some fight in Mundines legs.

Horn is coming off a bad loss he needs to be fully fit and mentally strong for a tough fight. Mundine wants to hire Gary Concoran for sparring which would be excellent preparation for a Horn fight.

I have to admit I read my first prediction earlier and it seems pretty off prediction. This fight is closer matchup than we think. I wouldnt be under estimating Mundine either. Especially with him being the bigger man.


https://www.couriermail.com.au/spor...e/news-story/6503093bb44670dab307cdabc1572455
 

thehook13

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Anyone think Horn would fight better without that 147 weight cut? Hes a big man for welterweight might be suited to Jr Middle
 

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8-10 million dollars will always make for strange bed fellows. Lets hope the weight issues are settled quickly, hate to see one fighter with a 5 or 6 kilo advantage.:patsch
:patsch:patsch:patsch .....AGREED CATCH WEIGHT....CONTRACTED CATCH WEIGHT.....DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY ARE?.... :patsch:patsch:patsch
 

Royal Watcher

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Anyone think Horn would fight better without that 147 weight cut? Hes a big man for welterweight might be suited to Jr Middle
I think Jeff Horn will only be better suited to junior middleweight if he picks up some additional power by being the 7 pounds heavier. If he fights Mundine it should give us the chance to assess whether extra pounds do provide Horn with more pop.
 
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:patsch:patsch:patsch .....AGREED CATCH WEIGHT....CONTRACTED CATCH WEIGHT.....DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY ARE?.... :patsch:patsch:patsch
UM, LET ME SEE. IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY THE TWO FIGHTERS SIGN A CONTRACT WHICH STATES THE MAXIMUM WEIGHT THAT THE FIGHTERS
WILL WEIGH IN 24 HOURS BEFORE THE BOUT TAKES PLACE. USUALLY A PENALTY IS IN PLACE IF ONE FIGHTER COMES IN HEAVY. IN TITLE FIGHTS
10% OF OVERWEIGHT BOXERS PURSE WILL GO TO THE OPPONENT AND 10% WILL GO TO THE SANCTIONING BODY. NON TITLE USUALLY 20 % PENALTY.
IF YOU THINK MUNDINE WILL NOT HAVE AT LEAST A 5- 6 KILO ADVANTAGE ON FIGHT NIGHT THEN YOU ARE DREAMING.

HOW DID I GO BUFFY ?
 

DB Cooper

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Anyone think Horn would fight better without that 147 weight cut? Hes a big man for welterweight might be suited to Jr Middle
Most successful fighters at any weight are 'big' for that division. We have all heard the stories even the greatest fighters went through to make weight. Look no further than Lionel Rose for an example and that was in the days when you weighed in on the day of the fight and didn't have 24 hours to re-hydrate like you do now.
 
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I think Jeff Horn will only be better suited to junior middleweight if he picks up some additional power by being the 7 pounds heavier. If he fights Mundine it should give us the chance to assess whether extra pounds do provide Horn with more pop.
Good point, history shows some fighters carry their power with them as they go up in weight while others perform like a fish out of water.
Horn has shown plenty of pop at 147 where he has almost always been the bigger man. If this fight eventuates this will be his first fight as the smaller
fighter. Jeffs defence is not his biggest asset, he has a great chin but i do worry about those eyes.
 

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UM, LET ME SEE. IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY THE TWO FIGHTERS SIGN A CONTRACT WHICH STATES THE MAXIMUM WEIGHT THAT THE FIGHTERS
WILL WEIGH IN 24 HOURS BEFORE THE BOUT TAKES PLACE. USUALLY A PENALTY IS IN PLACE IF ONE FIGHTER COMES IN HEAVY. IN TITLE FIGHTS
10% OF OVERWEIGHT BOXERS PURSE WILL GO TO THE OPPONENT AND 10% WILL GO TO THE SANCTIONING BODY. NON TITLE USUALLY 20 % PENALTY.
IF YOU THINK MUNDINE WILL NOT HAVE AT LEAST A 5- 6 KILO ADVANTAGE ON FIGHT NIGHT THEN YOU ARE DREAMING.

HOW DID I GO BUFFY ?
:patsch:patsch:patsch THING IS YOU WEREN'T REFERRING TO HORN VS MUNDINE.....YOU WERE BLEATING ABOUT MUNDINE VS GREEN :patsch:patsch:patsch

:patsch:patsch:patsch YOU ARE THE SAME PERSON SAYING THE THREAD ISN'T ABOUT MUNDINE VE GREEN TOO....WHAT YOU DIDN'T SAY IS EXCEPT WHEN IT SUITS YOU :patsch:patsch:patsch
 
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The same old suspects who pretend they couldn't care what people say about Mundine see a thread with Mundine's name in it and just cannot stop themselves from jumping in and trying to defend him.
 
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DB Cooper

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Emaid Dib and Adam Houda met with Dean Lonergan again yesterday - this time in Sydney - and they are planning on meeting again today (Wednesday).

Lonergan is keen to hold the fight in an indoor stadium like the Brisbane Entertainment Centre. While Mundine's team are pushing for Suncorp and suggesting that thousands of tickets be given away to ensure it is a full house. Mid November is looking the likely date.

Horn's team are arguing for a 70kg limit. But Mundine says he can't get down to 70kg and wants a 71 or 72kg limit.
 
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Good point, history shows some fighters carry their power with them as they go up in weight while others perform like a fish out of water.
Horn has shown plenty of pop at 147 where he has almost always been the bigger man. If this fight eventuates this will be his first fight as the smaller
fighter. Jeffs defence is not his biggest asset, he has a great chin but i do worry about those eyes.
It is clear you hope Mundine wins. So how exactly do Horn's eyes 'worry you'?
 

DB Cooper

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November 17th seems to be the preferred date for Horn-Mundine.

Mundine now keen for it to take place in Sydney.

Rushton says it will be in Brisbane provided the Brisbane Govt puts their hand in their pocket again (as they did for Pacquiao fight).

Mundine pushing for 71kg weight limit saying he can no longer fight at the lighter weight.

Rushton remaining firm on 70kg weight limit and says it is “non-negotiable’’ and that Mundine agreed to that at the start of negotiations before changing his mind.

“We have already conceded a lot to Anthony and his team,’’ Rushton said. “We have agreed to a 50/50 split and to the fight being a co-promotion rather than our promoter Dean Lonergan staging the event alone.

https://www.couriermail.com.au/spor...t/news-story/be927a4a278e7218f31024a4f8784b40
 
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DB Cooper

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Negotiations, assuming they are still taking place, seem to be dragging on and on. The sticking points apparently, are the weight and the venue.
 

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UM, LET ME SEE. IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY THE TWO FIGHTERS SIGN A CONTRACT WHICH STATES THE MAXIMUM WEIGHT THAT THE FIGHTERS
WILL WEIGH IN 24 HOURS BEFORE THE BOUT TAKES PLACE. USUALLY A PENALTY IS IN PLACE IF ONE FIGHTER COMES IN HEAVY. IN TITLE FIGHTS
10% OF OVERWEIGHT BOXERS PURSE WILL GO TO THE OPPONENT AND 10% WILL GO TO THE SANCTIONING BODY. NON TITLE USUALLY 20 % PENALTY.
IF YOU THINK MUNDINE WILL NOT HAVE AT LEAST A 5- 6 KILO ADVANTAGE ON FIGHT NIGHT THEN YOU ARE DREAMING.

HOW DID I GO BUFFY ?
Yeah no Rocco.

They have agreed to 71kg. But only if big dollar penalties apply to stop Mundine from cheating.
 

DB Cooper

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Anthony Mundine has been threatened with a multi million dollar fine if he comes in significantly over the 71kg weight limit for his proposed fight with Jeff Horn.

Both fighters have now agreed to weigh in at 71kg or under, 24 hours before the fight and 75kg or under an hour before the fight.

Glenn Rushton is insisting on massive penalties to make sure Mundine does not try to maximise his natural size advantage by weighing in well over the agreed limit.

Rushton is demanding Mundine pay Horn $50,000 for every 100 grams he is above the contracted weights.

“Jeff normally fights at 66kg so we were giving away a lot of weight when we agreed to fight Anthony at 70kg. He agreed to that weight but then changed the goalposts and said he wanted 71kg. So to make the fight happen we said `yes’.

But Rushton says Mundine must agree to the weight penalties for the Horn fight to go ahead. Rushton said the only way to ensure Mundine made the contracted weight limits was to impose a huge financial penalty in case he didn’t.

https://www.couriermail.com.au/spor...t/news-story/cfe826aabfa7286f49f163a9e01f7da8
 
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Royal Watcher

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At the tail of that article Mundine is claiming Rushton’s demands are a sign of "panic’’.

First Mundine agrees to 70kg. Then he changes his mind and demands 71kg. Then be balks at a penalty being involved if he comes in heavier than 71kg.

If anyone is panicking it is Mundine himself.