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Got mad at some dude at judo tonight. It was nogi night, which was fun as fuck. But straight after the warm up we jump straight into groundwork, first dude I paired up with just went fucking nuts. I'm talking full on white belt spastic head squeezing spastic.

Dude tried to pass, I caught him in half guard and started moving to his back, he literally just grabbed my head and squeezed it as hard as he could. Didn't try to free his leg, didn't look for a choke or a sub or anything, just squeezed the absolute fuck out of my head. Eventually got free and got a rnc. Told him to chill a bit.

Reset, start from knees, he wouldn't even engage, at all. Told him to just relax, have a play and try some stuff. Until he basically tried to jump over my legs and grab my head again. Same thing. Caught him in half guard squeezed my head again. I eventually took his back again and he made an effort to defend the rnc, so I ground my wrist up under his nose and lifted his chin to get it. I was pretty pissed at this point.

Reset, start from knees. He wouldn't engage again. I sat up, snapped his head down, brought my legs out and sprawled on his head, locked a guillotine up let him tap 3 or 4 times before I let it go. Kept going from there, I rolled him over, sat in a heavy side and he starts spazzing out, so I let him go belly down, hard rnc again, held it for 3 or 4 taps again.

I got up and walked off, shaking my head. I went back to him and told him to chill the fuck out. Just relax and learn something rather than just grabbing something a squeezing as hard as he can. He's a big strong dude, and I get that no gi is a new thing for him but fucking hell, at least try to pass my guard or play some kind of position.

Tried to get a roll in with one of the black belts but I had to spend about three quarters of the round sorting out a blood nose. I haven't bled from the nose in years, so christ where that came from, I'm blaming the spaz.

The rest of the night was awesome, had a great roll with a strong old black belt, dude had some slick transitions and very quick subs, I don't think either of us managed to catch anything. Loads of reversals and escapes though, very intense round.

Then we went to stand up, managed a couple of good rounds with different guys. I didn't go for that many throws but landed some great reversals on the way down or locked up subs before we landed. Dunno how you'd score under judo rules, but it was working for me.

Spaz guy came up to me at one point to do some stand up and I said, "no thanks". I've got patience but there's only so much I can take in a night.

Absolutely wankered after all that. The intensity the judo guys bring still gets me. A couple of black belts asked me how my cardio was coming along and I thought fuck me, I'm about as fit as I've ever been but this shit still kills me.
 
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Got mad at some dude at judo tonight. It was nogi night, which was fun as fuck. But straight after the warm up we jump straight into groundwork, first dude I paired up with just went fucking nuts. I'm talking full on white belt spastic head squeezing spastic.

Dude tried to pass, I caught him in half guard and started moving to his back, he literally just grabbed my head and squeezed it as hard as he could. Didn't try to free his leg, didn't look for a choke or a sub or anything, just squeezed the absolute fuck out of my head. Eventually got free and got a rnc. Told him to chill a bit.

Reset, start from knees, he wouldn't even engage, at all. Told him to just relax, have a play and try some stuff. Until he basically tried to jump over my legs and grab my head again. Same thing. Caught him in half guard squeezed my head again. I eventually took his back again and he made an effort to defend the rnc, so I ground my wrist up under his nose and lifted his chin to get it. I was pretty pissed at this point.

Reset, start from knees. He wouldn't engage again. I sat up, snapped his head down, brought my legs out and sprawled on his head, locked a guillotine up let him tap 3 or 4 times before I let it go. Kept going from there, I rolled him over, sat in a heavy side and he starts spazzing out, so I let him go belly down, hard rnc again, held it for 3 or 4 taps again.

I got up and walked off, shaking my head. I went back to him and told him to chill the fuck out. Just relax and learn something rather than just grabbing something a squeezing as hard as he can. He's a big strong dude, and I get that no gi is a new thing for him but fucking hell, at least try to pass my guard or play some kind of position.

Tried to get a roll in with one of the black belts but I had to spend about three quarters of the round sorting out a blood nose. I haven't bled from the nose in years, so christ where that came from, I'm blaming the spaz.

The rest of the night was awesome, had a great roll with a strong old black belt, dude had some slick transitions and very quick subs, I don't think either of us managed to catch anything. Loads of reversals and escapes though, very intense round.

Then we went to stand up, managed a couple of good rounds with different guys. I didn't go for that many throws but landed some great reversals on the way down or locked up subs before we landed. Dunno how you'd score under judo rules, but it was working for me.

Spaz guy came up to me at one point to do some stand up and I said, "no thanks". I've got patience but there's only so much I can take in a night.

Absolutely wankered after all that. The intensity the judo guys bring still gets me. A couple of black belts asked me how my cardio was coming along and I thought fuck me, I'm about as fit as I've ever been but this shit still kills me.
I've never fucking understood that spazzy shit. Never once did I act like that on my worst earliest days. Just isn't that hard to chill out and learn to get better without trying to hurt somebody. It's so fucking easy to act like grown folk
 
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I've never fucking understood that spazzy shit. Never once did I act like that on my worst earliest days. Just isn't that hard to chill out and learn to get better without trying to hurt somebody. It's so fucking easy to act like grown folk
Yep. And the dude has been training judo since I started there a little under 2 years ago, so he should be well past the spastic stage.

I mean, Tuesday nights are hard training. Judo is intense as it is, but if I can roll with almost any other guy there and know I'm going to get an intense and challenging round, but I'm still going to be able to move and try and learn stuff, why would I waste my time with a guy that is just hell bent on squeezing whatever happens to be within reach?

I can go as hard as he likes, but I'm not going to risk anything or get injured, so he's not going learn anything but what it's like to be choked when he's tired and blown his arms to shit. Must've choked him hard almost a half dozen times in the space of five minutes, and what did he learn? Sweet FA probably.
 
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I've never fucking understood that spazzy shit. Never once did I act like that on my worst earliest days. Just isn't that hard to chill out and learn to get better without trying to hurt somebody. It's so fucking easy to act like grown folk


Yeah, same here. I’m fucking awful, but I’m awful without an ego and I never overstretch for stuff that isn’t there, I let go of submissions if they’re just making people uncomfortable without being ‘on’, and I’m always careful of not spazzing and hurting anyone.

If anything, I think I’m almost too careful, I really need to start using a bit of my strength and weight when I pass and stuff. My mate really grinds his shoulder into my face when he passes, not to be a cunt, just because it works. I’m fucking worried about doing mounted armbars on people because my entire weight’s on their chest for a split second.
 
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Yeah, same here. I’m fucking awful, but I’m awful without an ego and I never overstretch for stuff that isn’t there, I let go of submissions if they’re just making people uncomfortable without being ‘on’, and I’m always careful of not spazzing and hurting anyone.

If anything, I think I’m almost too careful, I really need to start using a bit of my strength and weight when I pass and stuff. My mate really grinds his shoulder into my face when he passes, not to be a cunt, just because it works. I’m fucking worried about doing mounted armbars on people because my entire weight’s on their chest for a split second.
I think tournaments will help a lot with the impulse you're feeling.
 
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Really good session last night. This really works, for anyone who struggles once they’re stuck in side control.

 
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Next week we’ve already planned to go over some closed guard techniques. I got there a few times when we were rolling and if I couldn’t work towards a guillotine, triangle or armbar I was out of ideas.

I want to drill a flower, scissor, and hip bump sweep and get confident with at least two of them.

Any other nice no-gi moves that you guys used as white belts and kept in your game? Sweeps or subs would be good.
 
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Out of flower, scissor, and hip bump, which one works best at higher levels too? I don’t really like to waste time learning stuff that only really works against white belts. I want to be good at a few high percentage moves that I can use forever, rather than roughly knowing 20 sweeps that are a bit hit and miss.
 
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Any other nice no-gi moves that you guys used as white belts and kept in your game? Sweeps or subs would be good.
The basics are always good.

Arm drags -> back
Double under / stack pass -> side
Arm wrap -> flower sweep -> gift wrap half mount
Kimuras / americanas
Guillotines / variations
BBC / head lopper / variations
Head arm chokes.

Out of flower, scissor, and hip bump, which one works best at higher levels too? I don’t really like to waste time learning stuff that only really works against white belts. I want to be good at a few high percentage moves that I can use forever, rather than roughly knowing 20 sweeps that are a bit hit and miss.
I like the flower sweep and variations (with an arm wrap), because it teaches you a lot about how sweeps work. Taking away the base and then moving their centre of gravity in that direction. Scissor sweep is good, and there's a reason it's the first sweep most people are taught, but loads of people do it wrong even if they can make it work.
 
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The basics are always good.

Arm drags -> back
Double under / stack pass -> side
Arm wrap -> flower sweep -> gift wrap half mount
Kimuras / americanas
Guillotines / variations
BBC / head lopper / variations
Head arm chokes.


I like the flower sweep and variations (with an arm wrap), because it teaches you a lot about how sweeps work. Taking away the base and then moving their centre of gravity in that direction. Scissor sweep is good, and there's a reason it's the first sweep most people are taught, but loads of people do it wrong even if they can make it work.
Cheers mate. You don’t think it’s worth bothering with the hip bump? I’ve seen a few nice variations to triangles from there.

Arm drags in closed guard are a good shout as well, I’ll look at some clips.

The gift wrap/flower sweep sounds decent, any vids?
 
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Next time you’re rolling you should do me a tutorial on something, @Primate. Everyone’s got a ‘favourite’ technique that they know inside out and go to instantly in comps.
 
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The gift wrap/flower sweep sounds decent, any vids?
None that really talk about the principles that I think it shows. My feeling is that basically every sweep is the same. Take away one or more of their points of base and move their centre of gravity over that point. The details are just there to make things easier or harder.

 
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You don’t think it’s worth bothering with the hip bump?
Obviously you've got to learn it before you dismiss it, might work for you, might not. I use it to open up kimuras, but the sweep itself I've never been a fan of.