Joshua vs Pulev

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God forbid David gets a shot at AJ. He would get murdered. And now after Bellew almost everybody knows it. I said before the first fight I had no dog in the fight but if it stops Haye vs AJ Ive definitely got one in December. Also its looking like the Whyte rematch could happen very much sooner than we thought,like in 2 weeks time.
@UK fight fan as said we have to agree to disagree. No right or wrong answers here. Theres such a shortage of heavyweights around now,everybody MUST get their chance. Avoiding contenders will become glaringly obvious mate. Lets say Whytes Helenius fight goes ahead,by no means certain now,and Whyte wins,he will have put himself along with Miller as the number one contender. Pulev will have to get his shot and other than unifications between the 3 champions theres very little else.
I think Mervyn makes a good point about the money for the show already being shelled out. I hope he's right,even if Takam,who I consider not much better than Molina and likely to last as long with AJ,gets a shot.
I just don't feel Hearn would waste so much time making offers to someone he wanted to turn the fight now- and there was an offer, confirmed by Breazeale- just to take on an opponent of similar level but less UK exposure. People could guess it wasn't enough money, but I would bet my life it's a lot more than he's getting for Molina, and reading between the lines of Breazeale statement on the fight:

"I am glad everything worked out the way it did. I trust my adviser Al Haymon and I know he has my best interest at heart. That's why everyone wants to sign with him. He takes cares of his fighters. With that being said, I can't wait to get back in the ring and give the fans a show. I know Eric Molina is a banger and he's coming to fight. He now has an opportunity to fight for the WBC world heavyweight title again and I know he is coming to win".

It seems pretty clear to me that Haymon has instructed him otherwise, and promised the winner a shot at Wilder.

Why isn't the Whyte-Helenius guaranteed to happen? Plus there is no guarantee that Pulev will get his shot again. He was made mandatory because Parker vacated that spot to fight for the WBO last year. He's not won a final eliminator to guarantee a shot. By not being able to fight the mandatory goes to Takam. Pulev will have to fight a final eliminator to get mandatory status which won't be called for another year now.
 

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I rate AJ highly but if Wlad had finished the job when he gassed in round 5 people would be calling him the next David Price, now he beats every heavyweight hands down no question? AJ is flawed and still trying to iron out many kinks in his game. I am no AJ hater I actually think the AJ haters are embarrassing and I rate him highly, but he will be in very competitive fights with loads of contenders and the other champions. He should get to Pulev mid to late but I wouldn't be surprised if Pulev is ahead on the cards at the time.
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The price increase a right piss take. They are downscaling the venue 02 to Wembley Arena that saves a ton of dough. Pass it on to the fans ffs.

Doesnt bother me will use IPTV but for the honest folk who usually get the mates round thats who I feel for.

Eddie Hearn a knob jockey. When he did the fights in backyard. He put everyone up in Holiday Inn.
 
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The price increase a right piss take. They are downscaling the venue 02 to Wembley Arena that saves a ton of dough. Pass it on to the fans ffs.

Doesnt bother me will use IPTV but for the honest folk who usually get the mates round thats who I feel for.

Eddie Hearn a knob jockey. When he fid the fights in backyard. He put everyone up in Holiday Inn.
What about the people who are defending Eddie Hearn on social media. And the price increase.

Got to hand it to Eddie he must be the first promoter in history to create a rabid fanbase for himself.

Loads of nerds and geeks on social media who think Eddie is some sort of James Bond. And want to be like him and live vicariously through him. Thats next level weird.
 
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What about the people who are defending Eddie Hearn on social media. And the price increase.

Got to hand it to Eddie he must be the first promoter in history to create a rabid fanbase for himself.

Loads of nerds and geeks on social media who think Eddie is some sort of James Bond. And want to be like him and live vicariously through him. Thats next level weird.
Boxing Social put it on him too but unfortunately neither them or IfL asked Messrs Hearn or Smith whether or not the price would have been £19.99 if there was no pandemic. It seems to be being assumed that it would have been but actually Hearn quite rightly points out that this isn't a price increase on AJ's last fight, it's the same price people paid to watch his last fight when they did take in a gate but of course our finances were in better shape then.

But of course I agree asking fans for £24.99 to watch a mandatory defence against a 39 year old challenger at Christmas during a pandemic is wholly unacceptable. Hearn has the nerve to mention that AJ's taking a pay cut as if we're meant to feel sorry for him or something, if he fought for 100 grand he'd still be better off than most so I took particular issue with that part of the argument but it was said before by some fans that if we paid £24.99 to watch his last fight we would regret it in future and I understand the PPV did really well last time out. This is what happens when people just cough up and don't draw the line. Not too long ago it was £14.99, it's gone up a tenner in the space of 18 months I'm sure.
 
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Boxing Social put it on him too but unfortunately neither them or IfL asked Messrs Hearn or Smith whether or not the price would have been £19.99 if there was no pandemic. It seems to be being assumed that it would have been but actually Hearn quite rightly points out that this isn't a price increase on AJ's last fight, it's the same price people paid to watch his last fight when they did take in a gate but of course our finances were in better shape then.

But of course I agree asking fans for £24.99 to watch a mandatory defence against a 39 year old challenger at Christmas during a pandemic is wholly unacceptable. Hearn has the nerve to mention that AJ's taking a pay cut as if we're meant to feel sorry for him or something, if he fought for 100 grand he'd still be better off than most so I took particular issue with that part of the argument but it was said before by some fans that if we paid £24.99 to watch his last fight we would regret it in future and I understand the PPV did really well last time out. This is what happens when people just cough up and don't draw the line. Not too long ago it was £14.99, it's gone up a tenner in the space of 18 months I'm sure.
The Ruiz fight was put forward as a special case with particularly high demand. Sure Hearn also put the blame on sky for the price hike.


No one can say this is a special fight with high demand. I won't be paying, and I pay for most of the UK based ppvs.
 
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The Ruiz fight was put forward as a special case with particularly high demand. Sure Hearn also put the blame on sky for the price hike.


No one can say this is a special fight with high demand. I won't be paying, and I pay for most of the UK based ppvs.
In which case you would hope they would have maintained the same price since if there's going to be more consumers you'll still get more money than usual but it was greed that led to the price being pushed up and the British public paid out happily (for the most part) as evidenced by the PPV sales. That serves to make this situation even worse as despite the loyalty and I wanna say "obedience" of the fans last time out, now they need a break due to the pandemic, recession and redundancies and they can't get one from Sky or Matchroom here, they're just told to like it or lump it, I hope they remember this in future and start speaking with their money.

On a more positive note though, the Prime Minister announced yesterday that a limited number of fans will be able to attend live sporting events from December 3rd subject to the tier in which the venue is located so we may yet find that some tickets are sold for the event and the PPV price lowered to £19.99 after all. They'll say it was because some fans were allowed to come (in order to try and save face) but really it'll be because of the backlash they're facing from the fans over this.
 
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In which case you would hope they would have maintained the same price since if there's going to be more consumers you'll still get more money than usual but it was greed that led to the price being pushed up and the British public paid out happily (for the most part) as evidenced by the PPV sales. That serves to make this situation even worse as despite the loyalty and I wanna say "obedience" of the fans last time out, now they need a break due to the pandemic, recession and redundancies and they can't get one from Sky or Matchroom here, they're just told to like it or lump it, I hope they remember this in future and start speaking with their money.

On a more positive note though, the Prime Minister announced yesterday that a limited number of fans will be able to attend live sporting events from December 3rd subject to the tier in which the venue is located so we may yet find that some tickets are sold for the event and the PPV price lowered to £19.99 after all. They'll say it was because some fans were allowed to come (in order to try and save face) but really it'll be because of the backlash they're facing from the fans over this.
It would be a maximum of 4000 at best I think?

Completely against the price and he's saying fury would be 29.95
 
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Vote with your pockets and don't buy it - Simple As That!

Look at how they reversed the PPV madness in football by fans telling sky and BT to do one
 
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Vote with your pockets and don't buy it - Simple As That!

Look at how they reversed the PPV madness in football by fans telling sky and BT to do one
People will succumb to boredom and I think they know it. I really do hope people don't buy though. Some people are justifying it with the ppv price here against Americs, what they don't seem to realise is that we will eventually end up the same if we keep paying as it goes up
 
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People will succumb to boredom and I think they know it. I really do hope people don't buy though. Some people are justifying it with the ppv price here against Americs, what they don't seem to realise is that we will eventually end up the same if we keep paying as it goes up

Yeah they are banking on that. The premier league thought the same though and fans told them where to stick their ppv's. I know PPV sometimes is justified, to get the most money to make the biggest fights like Joshua v Fury or wilder v fury for example. But look at the schedule over the last few months, with whyte povetkin Usyk chisora Joshua pulev. None of these are top fights and none of them justify the increasingly expensive charges. We are just being ripped off.