Joshua's American dilemma

Where should Joshua choose for the rematch?


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The rematch clause in the contract probably stipulates the UK as the return venue. But the plan was to conquer the US market.

The plan turned sour when Miller disgraced himself and even sourer when Ruiz embarrassed Joshua.

The safest approach would be to make Ruiz go over to the UK for the rematch. But where does that leave Joahua's mission to conquer the US market?

Alternatively, if Joshua heads back to the US and loses is that the end of the US dream.

What should Joshua do? Go all in in the US, or play safe and fight the rematch in the UK?
 
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Hearn claims AJ wants the rematch in New York...or it could simply mean they did not specify the location for a rematch in the contract...Ruiz and Al Haymon will demand alot more money to come to the U.K.

Plus DAZN want it in America if Eddie wants to keep DAZN onside he needs to do the rematch in U.S.
 
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He should choose the UK and the perks that come with fighting in his backyard, but it really should be on the west coast of the US or in Mexico. First title defense in UK for Andy Ruiz is not worth $50 million. Also there is a chance AJ can get away with TUE. Dillian Whyte mentioned this and fighters know who is cheating and what camps chest, but never come out and say.
 

DB Cooper

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Interesting dilemma. Many factors to consider here and I'm sure Hearn and Joshua are working through them.
 
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The rematch clause in the contract probably stipulates the UK as the return venue. But the plan was to conquer the US market.
If that were the case, then there wouldn't be a need for the fighters to negotiate the location.

Joshua has admitted that he never asked about the rematch stipulations beforehand because he was so confident of a victory, so it wouldn't surprise me if he (and his team) failed to push the issue.


What should Joshua do? Go all in in the US, or play safe and fight the rematch in the UK?
He can always come back to the US after he regains his titles.

I honestly believe that the location will decide the fight. Joshua will be hard to beat a 2nd time in front of 100,000 cheering fans (and perhaps a partial ref and/or judges too) in Wembley. On the flipside, if Joshua was unnerved about fighting in NY, how would he feel for a rematch that takes place in Texas' Alamo Dome?
 
Jan 20, 2014
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Chose?

Why the fuck should he be choosing anything, he got smashed. I’m sure uncle al will make sure Andy gets paid a ridiculous amount of money to have it in the UK. Otherwise it will be back in the states, sounds like Eddie is going to get a taste of his own medicine.
 
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DB Cooper

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Chose?

Why the fuck should he be choosing anything, he got smashed. I’m sure uncle al will make sure Andy gets paid a ridiculous amount of money to have it in the UK. Otherwise it will be back in the states, sounds like Eddie is going to get a taste of his own medicine.
I think you will find the contract stipulated a rematch, should one be required, would be held in the UK. Can't say l am the least bit surprised if that's the case. Hearn would have had the contract read exactlty how he wanted.
 
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I think you will find the contract stipulated a rematch, should one be required, would be held in the UK. Can't say l am the least bit surprised if that's the case. Hearn would have had the contract read exactlty how he wanted.
If it was nailed on for in the UK that’s what they would be saying. Eddie sounds unsure when he’s been interviewed about it, spouting shite about AJ waiting it back in New York etc. That says to me the location is not nailed on yet and they need to negotiate. I would not be surprised in the slightest if AJ has to travel again.
 

DB Cooper

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If it was nailed on for in the UK that’s what they would be saying. Eddie sounds unsure when he’s been interviewed about it, spouting shite about AJ waiting it back in New York etc. That says to me the location is not nailed on yet and they need to negotiate. I would not be surprised in the slightest if AJ has to travel again.
In one of his most recent video interviews Joshua says something that very strongly suggests the contract stipulates the UK.

As far as Hearn being unsure what the contract says. That l don't believe for a.nano second.
 
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In one of his most recent video interviews Joshua says something that very strongly suggests the contract stipulates the UK.

As far as Hearn being unsure what the contract says. That l don't believe for a.nano second.
Joshua said something that strongly suggests lol, is he the promotor? Is he the broadcaster? Is he the champion?

The fight will be where it makes most financial sense and that will most likely be the US.

We shall see.
 

DB Cooper

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Joshua said something that strongly suggests lol, is he the promotor? Is he the broadcaster? Is he the champion?

The fight will be where it makes most financial sense and that will most likely be the US.

We shall see.
Assuming it was in the contract, and why wouldn't Hearn have included it when he would have had every opportunity to, he would have told Joshua by now.

Listen to the interview below from about 3.10.

 
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This is a multi million dollar contract.Anybody who works in the legal field will know that Matchroom regulated the details of a rematch clause (where, when, split and so on). Simple as that.

That being said, just because they have a rematch clause with a determined location of course Matchroom still might choose to make the rematch in another country than the UK.
 
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That makes financial sense.
What are you a financial analyst? Everybody knows the big money for fights is in the US, why do you think Eddie has fucked off cards in the UK to promote over in America? Filling Wembley is great and all but Dazn will be demanding more subscribers in America, that’s where their market it is.
 
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He should choose the UK and the perks that come with fighting in his backyard, but it really should be on the west coast of the US or in Mexico. First title defense in UK for Andy Ruiz is not worth $50 million. Also there is a chance AJ can get away with TUE. Dillian Whyte mentioned this and fighters know who is cheating and what camps chest, but never come out and say.
GGG and Whyte have both made the point that the US testing is different, and in each case the conversation was specific to AJ.

I am sure Eddie Hearn would have ensured they were covered by clauses if AJ lost. Now it is a matter of whether they stand up legally and whether the strongest parties in this go along with them.
 
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In his latest interview Hearn strongly implied that they contractually control the rematch location.