Kell Brook (39-2) vs. Liam Smith (29-2-1)

[SimonTemplar]

I think Brook via late stoppage or points. Smith was only ever a tough lump, lost when he stepped up at all, even a faded Brook has plenty to beat him. (Unless Brook's face falls apart, but that's true of most fighters and I won't vote in a poll anticipating an injury.)

 

[SouthpawCounter]

I think Brook via late stoppage or points. Smith was only ever a tough lump, lost when he stepped up at all, even a faded Brook has plenty to beat him. (Unless Brook's face falls apart, but that's true of most fighters and I won't vote in a poll anticipating an injury.)

I've seen Beefy live, believe me for some reason you realise how much better he looks in the flesh then on tv

 

[SimonTemplar]

I've seen Beefy live, believe me for some reason you realise how much better he looks in the flesh then on tv

Interesting. Don't get me wrong, it's a good fight and I'd look forward to it (more interested in this than, say, Brook-Khan) but have only seen Smith on TV, albeit nine or ten times. Have always felt that he lacked a little stardust, but interesting to hear your view having seen him in the flesh. Would be great for him to get a good high profile UK runout at this point and make a good showing of it.

 

[SouthpawCounter]

Interesting. Don't get me wrong, it's a good fight and I'd look forward to it (more interested in this than, say, Brook-Khan) but have only seen Smith on TV, albeit nine or ten times. Have always felt that he lacked a little stardust, but interesting to hear your view having seen him in the flesh. Would be great for him to get a good high profile UK runout at this point and make a good showing of it.

I don't know if you like football mate but you may of heard of a England striker called Emile Heskey... Was absolutely ridiculed by the British media for being a donkey.

I happen to have seen him live a couple of times in the flesh and realised just why he was picked for England and top clubs over and over again.

Sometimes the TV can be under flattering to a athlete.

 

[SimonTemplar]

I don't know if you like football mate but you may of heard of a England striker called Emile Heskey... Was absolutely ridiculed by the British media for being a donkey.

I happen to have seen him live a couple of times in the flesh and realised just why he was picked for England and top clubs over and over again.

Sometimes the TV can be under flattering to a athlete.

Interesting, thank you. Not a major football fan, but two of my kids are (feel old!!), and I do remember Heskey - he was Leicester, wasn't he? Think he stands out in the memory as (and I could well be wrong) I think his middle name was Ivanhoe or something??? Anyway, yes I remember he had a reputation for being a bit straightforward. I barely watch football these days as staying ahead of the financial/time demands of four kids has clipped my downtime wings, but do remember him. Interesting insight. This thread has me looking forward to Brook-Smith more than previously, so thank you for that.

 

[SouthpawCounter]

Interesting, thank you. Not a major football fan, but two of my kids are (feel old!!), and I do remember Heskey - he was Leicester, wasn't he? Think he stands out in the memory as (and I could well be wrong) I think his middle name was Ivanhoe or something??? Anyway, yes I remember he had a reputation for being a bit straightforward. I barely watch football these days as staying ahead of the financial/time demands of four kids has clipped my downtime wings, but do remember him. Interesting insight. This thread has me looking forward to Brook-Smith more than previously, so thank you for that.

He was Leicester City mate and then he got a big money move to Liverpool. I am shocked you remembered his middle name being Ivanhoe.

I do favour Brook in this fight (slightly it keeps changing) but I think it will be close either way.

 

[SimonTemplar]

He was Leicester City mate and then he got a big money move to Liverpool. I am shocked you remembered his middle name being Ivanhoe.

I do favour Brook in this fight (slightly it keeps changing) but I think it will be close either way.

Lol yes I have a stupid memory for names and faces, but I confess I only latched onto this one as Ivanhoe (the mediaeval character) was played in the TV show by Roger Moore, looking rather like my avatar. I don't know any other footballers' middle names!!

Yes I'm leaning towards Brook... but only if his face doesn't fall apart again.

 

[Dynamito]

Lol yes I have a stupid memory for names and faces, but I confess I only latched onto this one as Ivanhoe (the mediaeval character) was played in the TV show by Roger Moore, looking rather like my avatar. I don't know any other footballers' middle names!!

Yes I'm leaning towards Brook... but only if his face doesn't fall apart again.

Does not look like Smith vs Brook will happen....Brook is not to keen seems obsessed with fighting at 147.

On the other hand Bob Arum has recently been mentioning Brook as an opponent for Terence Crawford. So we shall see

Kell Brook in frame to fight Terence Crawford if Pacquiao bout can't be agreed

Top Rank boss Bob Arum is exploring the possibility of Terence Crawford going head-to-head with former welterweight champion Kell Brook, should a fight with Manny Pacquiao fail to materialise. Broo…

talksport.com

 

[SimonTemplar]

Does not look like Smith vs Brook will happen....Brook is not to keen seems obsessed with fighting at 147.

On the other hand Bob Arum has recently been mentioning Brook as an opponent for Terence Crawford. So we shall see

Kell Brook in frame to fight Terence Crawford if Pacquiao bout can't be agreed

Top Rank boss Bob Arum is exploring the possibility of Terence Crawford going head-to-head with former welterweight champion Kell Brook, should a fight with Manny Pacquiao fail to materialise. Broo…

talksport.com

Shame if true - Kell seemed pretty keen on the whole 'two weight world champion' thing, and he needs some reason to stay focussed and committed, so I thought a clear target suited him. He has been tooling around doing not very much at welter for a good while now without really cracking on, so I don't see any real reason that should change. Plus surely he really would be weaker at the weight, these days.

 

[Grant]

It was clear as day that Kel wasn't keen in his interview after his last fight.

 

[SimonTemplar]

It was clear as day that Kel wasn't keen in his interview after his last fight.

Completely agree, but that doesn't mean that it won't turn out to be his best option.

 

[SouthpawCounter]

Lol yes I have a stupid memory for names and faces, but I confess I only latched onto this one as Ivanhoe (the mediaeval character) was played in the TV show by Roger Moore, looking rather like my avatar. I don't know any other footballers' middle names!!

Yes I'm leaning towards Brook... but only if his face doesn't fall apart again.

The reason I say I'm leaning towards Brook is because Smith has looked a little easier to hit in his last few fights, although this may be him not having the fear factor wit h his last few opponents.

To be honest I don't believe this fight will happen anyhow

 

[Grant]

Completely agree, but that doesn't mean that it won't turn out to be his best option.

Oh definitely. But it was to be expected that he would explore other options first.

 

[SimonTemplar]

To be honest, these days I doubt that any Kell Brook fight will happen until the start of his ringwalk.

 

[Dynamito]

Shame if true - Kell seemed pretty keen on the whole 'two weight world champion' thing, and he needs some reason to stay focussed and committed, so I thought a clear target suited him. He has been tooling around doing not very much at welter for a good while now without really cracking on, so I don't see any real reason that should change. Plus surely he really would be weaker at the weight, these days.

Well it’s Dominic Ingle who is keen for 154lb he himself every time Kell is interviewed mentions fighters at 147lb. Besides he was mandatory for Hurd but never pursued that.

Jermell Charlo is available Kell has not mentioned his name at all. On Twitter he has been calling out Spence and Crawford.

 

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