Brit/Ire Kinahan Panorama

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Crickets from Warren and Matchroom
 
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So how do MTK make money? They pay fighters a signing on bonus. Yet charge no management fees?
 
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Barry Mcguigan got hammered by the likes of BJ Saunders, Derry Mathews, Sunny Edwards and was on the receiving end of all kinds of vitriol. For speaking out against MTK and Daniel Kinnahan.

And it looks like Barry has come out with the Moral highground in all this.

Whatever Barrys character flaws are and shady management tactics. It takes some serious cajones to publically speak out against the Mafia. When everyone else is too afraid to.
 
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So how do MTK make money? They pay fighters a signing on bonus. Yet charge no management fees?
maybe Kinahan is a philanthropist?

It doesnt really matter, does it?
The more fighters under 1 banner the better imo, should be easier to get the big fights made and that is what boxing needs at the moment...
 
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maybe Kinahan is a philanthropist?

It doesnt really matter, does it?
The more fighters under 1 banner the better imo, should be easier to get the big fights made and that is what boxing needs at the moment...
I though that would happen with Al Haymon and PBC. Everything slowed down and went back to the Status Quo once the Hedge Fund ran out of money.
 
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Not saying McGuigan's wrong but MTK have taken a lot of his fighters so definitely some sour grapes involved
 
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Not saying McGuigan's wrong but MTK have taken a lot of his fighters so definitely some sour grapes involved
Wrong ,you’ll find some of these boxers left Mcguigan before they had contact with Mtk
Mcguigan playing the victim again
 
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How much money do they think is floating around MTK then?

withbthe way the sport is run atm it’s very hard for anyone to take the moral high ground against them as the competition are generally crooks too.
 

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How much money do they think is floating around MTK then?

withbthe way the sport is run atm it’s very hard for anyone to take the moral high ground against them as the competition are generally crooks too.
There are crooks and then there are crooks though.

Hearn, Warren, Arum etc aren't having people whacked or dealing in smack.
 

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So how do MTK make money? They pay fighters a signing on bonus. Yet charge no management fees?
They do take a cut from mist fighters, it's just much lower than competitors, and for a higher level of service.

As to how they make money, I think the point is that they don't. This is a vanity project, like some Sheikh buying a PL club.

They presumably use funds from elsewhere in the organisation to prop up MTK.

Possibly its part of a money laundering system, but I would doubt it. Its not my area of expertise, but there are easier, and much more discreet ways to do that.
 

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Barry Mcguigan got hammered by the likes of BJ Saunders, Derry Mathews, Sunny Edwards and was on the receiving end of all kinds of vitriol. For speaking out against MTK and Daniel Kinnahan.

And it looks like Barry has come out with the Moral highground in all this.

Whatever Barrys character flaws are and shady management tactics. It takes some serious cajones to publically speak out against the Mafia. When everyone else is too afraid to.
I think it's obvious Barry is a crook and a fraudster. But that still puts him above heroin dealers in the moral highground.

I wouldn't leave my wallet near him, but at least he won't have you shot.
 
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Couldn't help but laugh when they kept referring to them as 'The Mafia' and 'The Cartel'. They are just a bunch of scummy Irishmen.
 
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The mafia were just a bunch of scummy Italians, the Cartel were a bunch of scummy Cololmbians. Makes no difference what they are called, everyone knows what they are.
Whatever they are they seem to be pretty good at it which isn't me condoning their behaviour in any way.
 
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Whatever they are they seem to be pretty good at it which isn't me condoning their behaviour in any way.
They have a criminal network that spans across Europe and probably even further abroad. They make hundreds of millions a year dealing drugs and have left dozens of bodies across Dublin over the last decade. I would not say they are low level anyways.