Lomachenko the ATG

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The fight didn't go completely as expected, as [MENTION=2124]The Undefeated Gaul[/MENTION] had mentioned before the fight the only thing that could hold Lomachenko back is the pacing of 12 rounds. Lomachenko didn't let his hands go enough, especially to the body.
Apart from that, Lomachenko showed why he's destined for ATG status. He proved his chin (from the two clean shots Salido landed over 12 rounds) and his stamina (picking up the pace and leaving Salido holding on for life in the 12th).
The judging was rubbish but it has to be expected in the pro game, we've seen countless fights where fighters get rounds based purely on activity/ineffective aggression. Lomachenko is used to the amateur game where only clean shots count. Lomachenko throws his punches so short and he's so efficient in his defence that most people can't see what's really going on. I scored the fight 9-3 for Lomachenko, there were rounds where he simply didn't throw enough. Salido didn't land anything but Lomachenko was too concerned with defence and pacing himself that Salido stole rounds based purely on more punches thrown. Salido not making weight and coming in at 147 was disgraceful as well, but it wasn't really a problem since Lomachenko showed that he was the physically stronger guy.

Apart from the pacing issue this fight has just reinforced my belief in Lomachenko, he was the one who took Salido into deep waters and was drowning him :lol:
If only Lomachenko threw more body punches in the earlier rounds then there's no way Salido would've lasted 12, Salido had the look of a defeated man until the decision was announced. Lomachenko handled the BS decision with as much class as I've ever seen, his attitude and mental strength just constantly impresses me.

Lomachenko has learned about pacing and pro judging now, he won't let fights look close again. Maybe Lomachenko can get that bout against GRJ for the vacant title? Lomachenko will demolish him and then he can take on Rigo, I think Vasyl needs that win on his record now to get back the respect of the more casual fans who are so concerned with that 0.

Unfortunately I took a ban bet with madcap maxie so I need to leave for three months, but make no mistake, the Lomatard express rolls on :yep
Lomachenko is truly the best fighter I've ever seen, and I don't view this fight as a loss in anyway. He gained the experience of pacing for 12 rounds and had the veteran pro welterweight Salido holding on for dear life in the final two rounds, we've never seen Salido finish a fight like that. He needs to throw more body punches in the future and learn that clean punches don't matter as much in the pro game, activity matters the most (he should watch some Calzaghe). If he wants to land clean punches only he needs to fight on the outside more, they are more eye catching there as punches on the inside often get missed by judges.
Before this fight I didn't think Lomachenko had the body type to claim titles in multiple weight divisions but seeing how handled 147lb Salido I have no doubt he can move up in the future, so many exciting fights to be made for our generations SRR :yep


P.S. thanks to Gaul for mentioning that I was unbanned, that little bitch Flea Man gave me the message that it was a permanent ban for homophobia (no one has ever called someone else a homo on here before? :verysad).
 
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The fight didn't go completely as expected, as @The Undefeated Gaul had mentioned before the fight the only thing that could hold Lomachenko back is the pacing of 12 rounds. Lomachenko didn't let his hands go enough, especially to the body.
Apart from that, Lomachenko showed why he's destined for ATG status. He proved his chin (from the two clean shots Salido landed over 12 rounds) and his stamina (picking up the pace and leaving Salido holding on for life in the 12th).
The judging was rubbish but it has to be expected in the pro game, we've seen countless fights where fighters get rounds based purely on activity/ineffective aggression. Lomachenko is used to the amateur game where only clean shots count. Lomachenko throws his punches so short and he's so efficient in his defence that most people can't see what's really going on. I scored the fight 9-3 for Lomachenko, there were rounds where he simply didn't throw enough. Salido didn't land anything but Lomachenko was too concerned with defence and pacing himself that Salido stole rounds based purely on more punches thrown. Salido not making weight and coming in at 147 was disgraceful as well, but it wasn't really a problem since Lomachenko showed that he was the physically stronger guy.

Apart from the pacing issue this fight has just reinforced my belief in Lomachenko, he was the one who took Salido into deep waters and was drowning him :lol:
If only Lomachenko threw more body punches in the earlier rounds then there's no way Salido would've lasted 12, Salido had the look of a defeated man until the decision was announced. Lomachenko handled the BS decision with as much class as I've ever seen, his attitude and mental strength just constantly impresses me.

Lomachenko has learned about pacing and pro judging now, he won't let fights look close again. Maybe Lomachenko can get that bout against GRJ for the vacant title? Lomachenko will demolish him and then he can take on Rigo, I think Vasyl needs that win on his record now to get back the respect of the more casual fans who are so concerned with that 0.

Unfortunately I took a ban bet with madcap maxie so I need to leave for three months, but make no mistake, the Lomatard express rolls on :yep
Lomachenko is truly the best fighter I've ever seen, and I don't view this fight as a loss in anyway. He gained the experience of pacing for 12 rounds and had the veteran pro welterweight Salido holding on for dear life in the final two rounds, we've never seen Salido finish a fight like that. He needs to throw more body punches in the future and learn that clean punches don't matter as much in the pro game, activity matters the most (he should watch some Calzaghe). If he wants to land clean punches only he needs to fight on the outside more, they are more eye catching there as punches on the inside often get missed by judges.
Before this fight I didn't think Lomachenko had the body type to claim titles in multiple weight divisions but seeing how handled 147lb Salido I have no doubt he can move up in the future, so many exciting fights to be made for our generations SRR :yep


P.S. thanks to Gaul for mentioning that I was unbanned, that little bitch Flea Man gave me the message that it was a permanent ban for homophobia (no one has ever called someone else a homo on here before? :verysad).
Did we just witness perhaps the closest thing to a complete boxer in the history of the sport?

I was just blown away by his performance. Not ordinary in the least. His holding was exquisite, the pitty-pat sublime, the vulnerability to the body breath-taking.
 
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fuck off

Greatest amateur of all time is 1-1 as a professional :rofl

Come on man. The guy fought a seasoned pro who came in over the limit and had a ref that allowed the guy to land repeated low blows on Lomanchencko. He did this in only his second pro fight and lost a close decision. I say if they fight again, Lomanchencko likely beats the guy inside the limit.

You should be so talented.
 
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Did we just witness perhaps the closest thing to a complete boxer in the history of the sport?

I was just blown away by his performance. Not ordinary in the least. His holding was exquisite, the pitty-pat sublime, the vulnerability to the body breath-taking.
See what happens then..
 
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fuck off

Greatest amateur of all time is 1-1 as a professional :rofl
Yeah you're right, Ottke is undoubtedly going to go down in history as a far greater fighter than Lomachenko :rolleyes
That 0 is pretty important to you isn't it? I care about opponents. I don't give a shit about that 0 and obviously neither does Lomachenko, he fights for history, not for the money and dick holding you're so interested in.
 
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Bogotazo

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Come on man. The guy fought a seasoned pro who came in over the limit and had a ref that allowed the guy to land repeated low blows on Lomanchencko. He did this in only his second pro fight and lost a close decision. I say if they fight again, Lomanchencko likely beats the guy inside the limit.

You should be so talented.
The point is not that Lomachenko is a bum, the point is insisting Loma has the talent of an ATG post after post and making ludicrous claims was clearly bullshit and his failure to beat a very good but not great veteran on his way out is undeniable proof of that.
 
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I'm still here for a day remember.. did you see how Salido destroyed Lomachenko? :lol: Salido hit arms and air all night and was holding on for his life in the 12th :deal
it was a far cry from TKO-3.

Mikey Garcia was knocking Salido down all over the place with crisp, easily delivered counter-punches. Why the difference?
 
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasyl_Lomachenko Scroll down for his record. 1-1.

This is the guy who was going to beat Rigo in his next fight and was beating Mayweather 10:2. Bye.
Because that 1-1 record is indicative of his quality as a fighter :verysad
I thought you might have gained some respect for Lomachenko for fighting 147 Salido, going 12 with ease and having him drowning in the 12th. But no, you're still the same emotional fucktard who isn't even a fan of the sport, you care about an argument on the internet more than anything else. Pathetic cunt.
 
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bballchump11

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Come on man. The guy fought a seasoned pro who came in over the limit and had a ref that allowed the guy to land repeated low blows on Lomanchencko. He did this in only his second pro fight and lost a close decision. I say if they fight again, Lomanchencko likely beats the guy inside the limit.

You should be so talented.
Did you see the bullshit this asshole Dealt_With said for the past year? I'm going to talk all the shit I want
 
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it was a far cry from TKO-3.

Mikey Garcia was knocking Salido down all over the place with crisp, easily delivered counter-punches. Why the difference?
Lomachenko didn't throw enough punches to catch the judges eyes, he didn't go the body enough. Garcia timed his punches on Salido coming in and caught him off balance early in the fight. Garcia never really hurt him though, not like Haya did. Salido was coming on strong against Garcia in the end, Salido against Lomachenko was ready to go out at the end.
Lomachenko has been competing in sprints, he prepared for a marathon and he fought like that. Next time he needs to prepare for a middle distance race and get busier sooner. That's that pacing issue and now that he has that under his belt his fights aren't going to be close/debatable from now on.
 
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Tko6

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Lomachenko did absolutely NOTHING tonight, you could list the meaningful punches he landed over 12 rounds on one hand. Now please fuck off and take the Klitards with you.