Lomachenko the ATG

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Dealt With thinks Lomachenko might hit harder than Manny Pacquiao.

Dealt With thinks Lomachenko's face marked up against Pedraza 'cus of how well he was blocking.

Dealt With is Dealt With.
Pedders, can’t argue anything. Pedders, built like a 12 year old lesbian. Pedders, acts all indignant and shocked about debatable points so he doesn’t have to engage and reveal how little he actually knows about boxing.
Pedders is Pedders.

Dealt With has a long documented history of being spot on about Lomachenko, while clowning and proving Pedders wrong.
 

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Pedders, can’t argue anything. Pedders, built like a 12 year old lesbian. Pedders, acts all indignant and shocked about debatable points so he doesn’t have to engage and reveal how little he actually knows about boxing.
Pedders is Pedders.

Dealt With has a long documented history of being spot on about Lomachenko, while clowning and proving Pedders wrong.
:lol: C'mon dude, just a bit of fun.

Although you don't half come out with some shit when it comes to Loma. You don't seriously think Lomachenko might hit harder than Manny? Manny was knocking out fully fledged Welterweights.
 

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The revisionist history here is hilarious. Was anybody here watching boxing when Pac was coming up? He was always seen as a limited but exciting fighter, who likely had a short shelf life because of the way he fought. It wasn’t until the DLH, Hatton, Cotto fights that he was thought about as an all time great. And we’re going to sit here and pretend that Pac was a master boxer? He was always criticised for his straight line boxing, his limited arsenal of punches, his lack of a right hand, and how many punches he took. Even us who didn’t like Floyd knew he would always beat Pac due to his style, due to his counter punching.
Now we want to pretend that he is on Lomachenko’s level as a boxer? Hilarious, and dweeb Pedders agenda is clear as always. Suck off anybody from the past, idealise them as an untouchable religious figure, while downplaying clearly the most skilled boxer to ever have lived.
Manny was ranked P4P #2 by Ring Magazine as early as 2006. Manny didn't fight DLH til a couple of years later.
 
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Pedders, can’t argue anything. Pedders, built like a 12 year old lesbian. Pedders, acts all indignant and shocked about debatable points so he doesn’t have to engage and reveal how little he actually knows about boxing.
Pedders is Pedders.

Dealt With has a long documented history of being spot on about Lomachenko, while clowning and proving Pedders wrong.
 

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Sure, an awesome display either way. Then your grasp at straws goes out the window
I didn't think the Linares display was awesome. It was competent, quite good actually, but being someone who never considered Linares to be an elite fighter it really wasn't all that fabulous.
 
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I didn't think the Linares display was awesome. It was competent, quite good actually, but being someone who never considered Linares to be an elite fighter it really wasn't all that fabulous.
Linares hasn't lost in 6 years, and those last two were from cuts and the last was a stoppage by a Mexican ring doc.

Lomachenko also injured his shoulder in this fight. It's okay not to be sold on Lomachenko, but you're simply just hating.
 
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Linares hasn't lost in 6 years, and those last two were from cuts and the last was a stoppage by a Mexican ring doc.

Lomachenko also injured his shoulder in this fight. It's okay not to be sold on Lomachenko, but you're simply just hating.
Linares losing, in any way barring a Freak accident or blatant robbery, which neither of those were, against scrubs like Demarco and Thompson is quite alarming to say the least. Especially for a so called “elite fighter”.
 
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Linares hasn't lost in 6 years, and those last two were from cuts and the last was a stoppage by a Mexican ring doc.

Lomachenko also injured his shoulder in this fight. It's okay not to be sold on Lomachenko, but you're simply just hating.
I consider Lomachenko a good candidate for P4P 1, freely admit that his resume considering the circumstances is fantastic and that he would undeniably be a threat to many past greats in a H2H sense.

But you consider me a hater because I don't subscribe to the belief that he hits harder than Manny Pacquiao and because I don't think his performance against Linares was masterful.

I'm not going to win with you no matter what I say. Your mind is made up.
 
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I consider Lomachenko a good candidate for P4P 1, freely admit that his resume considering the circumstances is fantastic and that he would undeniably be a threat to many past greats in a H2H sense.

But you consider me a hater because I don't subscribe to the belief that he hits harder than Manny Pacquiao and because I don't think his performance against Linares was masterful.

I'm not going to win with you no matter what I say. Your mind is made up.
I never said he hits harder than Pacquiao, are argument was that he was more skillfully sound. Loma's shots are a mix of pitty pats in between harder shots. My beef is the downplay of what he's done so far in under 15 fights, the easier he puts someone away the more we take away from him.
 
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Linares losing, in any way barring a Freak accident or blatant robbery, which neither of those were, against scrubs like Demarco and Thompson is quite alarming to say the least. Especially for a so called “elite fighter”.
If we were to use the same logic with Pacquiao who was stopped by nobodies before he went on his Mexican onslaught.
 
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If we were to use the same logic with Pacquiao who was stopped by nobodies before he went on his Mexican onslaught.
Dumb comparison.

Pacquiao was very early into his career and wasn’t anywhere near to being the elite fighter he would eventually become.

Linares on the other hand, was in the middle of his career, even with Freddie Roach in his corner. It’s safe to say that it was at the very peak of his career when those losses happened.
 
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:lol: C'mon dude, just a bit of fun.

Although you don't half come out with some shit when it comes to Loma. You don't seriously think Lomachenko might hit harder than Manny? Manny was knocking out fully fledged Welterweights.
Manny knocked out Hatton who was a 140 pound fighter. What full fledged Welterweights did he knock out? He generally stopped bigger guys due to an accumulation of damage. Lomachenko knocked out better fighters at 130 and 135 so to claim that it’s not even a maybe that Lomachenko might hit harder just shows your ridiculous bias.
 
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Manny was ranked P4P #2 by Ring Magazine as early as 2006. Manny didn't fight DLH til a couple of years later.
Stop looking at numbers you imbecile. I know how he was regarded at the time, I watched him as he moved up and I was a fan. Nobody ever thought he was some unbeatable, ultra skilled fighter. The general consensus was that he was limited boxing wise but was special in terms of offensive output with very good power, and that he was in entertaining fights. You’re making the claim that he’s some Uber-skilled boxer when the view was always that his athleticism and power helped him to win some close decisions against his more skilled contemporaries at the time.
He started to appear more skilled when he moved up and fought bigger, slower guys. It was the DLH fight that put Pac into the elite category, and we know what DLH’s condition was for that fight. I admit that I picked DLH at the time. It was that fight, Hatton, Cotto and Margarito that put him into the view that we have of him now. At the lower weights he wasn’t considered ATG and a skilled boxer. He was nothing close to the level of Lomachenko, and you saying otherwise is either your bs bias or you simply didn’t watch boxing at the time.
 
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Dumb comparison.

Pacquiao was very early into his career and wasn’t anywhere near to being the elite fighter he would eventually become.

Linares on the other hand, was in the middle of his career, even with Freddie Roach in his corner. It’s safe to say that it was at the very peak of his career when those losses happened.
Nonsense, Linares was going to retire then rejuvenated his career by going on a long undefeated streak. Mikey ducked then Lomachenko caught prime Linares at his peak.
 

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Lomachenko knocked out better fighters at 130 and 135
Morales >>>>>>>>> anyone Loma has ever faced.

Most guys that Loma stopped at 130lbs quit. Only a damaged goods Martinez at 130lbs and never known for his durability Linares at 135lbs were legitimately KOd.
Nonsense, Linares was going to retire then rejuvenated his career by going on a long undefeated streak. Mikey ducked then Lomachenko caught prime Linares at his peak.
Based on what exactly? By going life and death against ATGs like Mitchell, Crolla, and Campbell???