Lomachenko the ATG

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I agree with you in that Linares is probably as good now as he's ever been. I don't think he was ever all that good though. Credit to him for remaining unbeaten for so long, but you only have to look at his recent level of opposition to know that it does flatter him somewhat. Luke Campbell? Anthony Crolla? These are European level fighters at best. You can go a little further back to another Brit, Kevin Mitchell. European level too, but he actually went and life in that one. I take no satisfaction in knocking down a professional fighter, Linares has had a good career and he's a very good fighter, but he was never going to be good enough to beat Lomachenko. He was never going to be good enough to beat a Mikey Garcia either. He has never come close to reaching these heights in a long, long career.

Back to the original question, Linares was obviously a more developed Professional when he sustained his early losses compared to Manny Pacquiao. It's what we could call a false equivalency.
Can't disagree with anything said here.

Was a fan of Kevin back in the day.
 
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P4P I don't see a prime Morales or Barrera making a dent in this version of Cano.
To be fair, this was post rejuvenated prime Linares, and he lost to a stylistic nightmare in Cano. The prime Cano who became rejuvenated after a stint of losses, including losses to "still fighting due to divorce Shane" and "dad bod Morales on his farewell tour".
 
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Classy, guys. Personally I feel for Linares as he's a humble, likable and classy enough guy.

Any athlete can have an off night and if you compete often (which he did btw, maybe a bit too often?) you lose from time to time.
This result also once more proves that styles make fights.

Having said that he looked fragile as hell.

And I got to say very nice job by the referee!!
 
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Loma is pissing his career away and is ruining any chance at building an elite legacy. Fighting Crolla is an absolute disgrace. Nothing short. It is up there with the most pointless, pathetic fights from an elite champion in living memory. When he walks through that fight, he will be fighting the winner of Commey-Chaniev. What will that add to his legacy? Fuck all. He does not need titles, he needs names and fights that capture the imagination of the fans. It is January 2019, and we can already write off the whole year pretty much. He rarely fights more than twice a year, so this might be the sum of his 2019. Abject.
 

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Loma is pissing his career away and is ruining any chance at building an elite legacy. Fighting Crolla is an absolute disgrace. Nothing short. It is up there with the most pointless, pathetic fights from an elite champion in living memory. When he walks through that fight, he will be fighting the winner of Commey-Chaniev. What will that add to his legacy? Fuck all. He does not need titles, he needs names and fights that capture the imagination of the fans. It is January 2019, and we can already write off the whole year pretty much. He rarely fights more than twice a year, so this might be the sum of his 2019. Abject.
Thank you for telling it like it is.
 
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Thank you for telling it like it is.
I always do. I am not biased, and if I feel myself becoming biased on a topic, I do my best to address it. I stand by what I have said about Loma's ability, but I am not going to make excuses for shit fights and pretend that he is building a legacy. I find it baffling too, as I am sure he is totally confident in his ability, so I just cannot fathom the thinking behind these bouts.
 

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Loma is pissing his career away and is ruining any chance at building an elite legacy. Fighting Crolla is an absolute disgrace. Nothing short. It is up there with the most pointless, pathetic fights from an elite champion in living memory. When he walks through that fight, he will be fighting the winner of Commey-Chaniev. What will that add to his legacy? Fuck all. He does not need titles, he needs names and fights that capture the imagination of the fans. It is January 2019, and we can already write off the whole year pretty much. He rarely fights more than twice a year, so this might be the sum of his 2019. Abject.
I agree, but who is he supposed to be fighting right now?
 

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I always do. I am not biased, and if I feel myself becoming biased on a topic, I do my best to address it. I stand by what I have said about Loma's ability, but I am not going to make excuses for shit fights and pretend that he is building a legacy. I find it baffling too, as I am sure he is totally confident in his ability, so I just cannot fathom the thinking behind these bouts.
I guarantee the media will give him a free pass and pretend like him dominating Crolla is something special.