Luis Ortiz vs Andy Ruiz Jr Next?

Ortiz vs Ruiz Who Wins & How?


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Depends if Ruiz actually cares anymore

If he's in shape he will destroy that old man. Ortiz was so slow and tottering against wilder in the rematch, just the fact that wilder is a truly abysmal boxer made him look passable until he got sat down.

Ruiz is the second best fighter Ortiz has ever fought, and it's a steep drop to number 3.

at 49 years old he won't have enough and the myth of Luis Ortiz will die.

If Ruiz weighs in at 280lb in a t shirt I might change my mibd
 
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I think it's 50 / 50. Maybe a slight nod towards Ortiz via KO, but of course it all depends on the shape Andy shows up in.

Ortiz is a classic counter-puncher, so his age is less of an issue than for many other fighters.
The fact that Andy has short arms and slow feet just amplifies that fact.

Ortiz arguably also has better defense.

Andy has (relative) youth and faster hands.

They both have 1-punch power.

50 / 50.
 
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Interesting fight. Ruiz will try to walk him down, he took Joshua's shots for 12 rounds, maybe he can walk through Ortiz's punches, if he can then he has a shot as Ortiz isn't a great mover, he won't be hard to get too if he's not intimidated by his power.

But then again if Ortiz can hurt him then Andy is in for a painful night as Ortiz is a good counter puncher and no way Ruiz can fight off the back foot.

Who has the most left might decide it, age might see Ortiz be ready to be taken while lack of discipline and commitment, now he's made millions, might be Ruiz's undoing.
 
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Great fight. People say this era of heavyweights isn’t great but then look at this for a B level fight. Think of the times when the Chris Byrd’s, Rahman and John Ruiz were heavyweight champions. Both these guys are better than anyone on Tyson’s W column.
 
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Great fight. People say this era of heavyweights isn’t great but then look at this for a B level fight. Think of the times when the Chris Byrd’s, Rahman and John Ruiz were heavyweight champions. Both these guys are better than anyone on Tyson’s W column.
Are you joking?

Luis Ortiz best win is Bryant Jennings who isn't very good

He's a complete PBC fabrication who's never done anything in his career.

As for Ruiz, he's a one hit wonder so far, remains to be seen if he can follow up
 
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This one has the makings of a really interesting contest. I think Ruiz would need to be at his best to win it.
 

Deebo

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Show dem balls bro
Oh Shit! Sorry I though this was the Off-Topic forum! I've asked too many times in the past to get shit moved so I won't do it now.
 

Deebo

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Show dem balls bro
Real talk, two big, big guys. Both in the ring is under 6' 2" combined but they break the 500 pound mark. Ruiz is really good at timing and even overpowering guys who are smaller.

Ruiz hurt AJ first time by mauling and AJ killed in the second matchup by standing big. Emanuel Stuart "If you're a big man then stand big". Really miss seeing that guy on HBO Boxing. But HBO sucks now so meh.
 
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Best fight that can be made. (between a pensioner and a clinically obese person).

Seriously, it's a good fight, and one that should be good to watch. Both guys are top ten fighters, and at their best a risk for anyone.

Only issue is that both guy's best might be behind them. It's still a great cross roads fight though.
 
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I fancy Ruiz' chin and workrate to take him to a points win. Possibly late stoppage if age and the Wilder fights have caught up with Ortiz.

There is the usual caveat regarding Ruiz' weight of course. He will have to be vaguely man shaped to win. He's not going to do it looking like a half-deflated bouncy castle.
 
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Lennox Lewis today

"Ortiz is effective for 5 rounds, after that, not really, not at his age"

First time a pbc employee has cut through the Ortiz BS

I agree, Ruiz KO 10
 
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Depends if Ruiz actually cares anymore

If he's in shape he will destroy that old man. Ortiz was so slow and tottering against wilder in the rematch, just the fact that wilder is a truly abysmal boxer made him look passable until he got sat down.

Ruiz is the second best fighter Ortiz has ever fought, and it's a steep drop to number 3.

at 49 years old he won't have enough and the myth of Luis Ortiz will die.

If Ruiz weighs in at 280lb in a t shirt I might change my mibd

I agree with this. Ruiz is younger, can bang and is very good when he's not distracted. If this were a younger Ortiz it might be 50/50. I don't think Ortiz is just going to knock Ruiz out. Keep in mind he took leather from AJ all night and a colossal left hook in the first fight that would have knocked out many guys in the top 10.