RBR!!! Luke Campbell (20-3) vs. Ryan Garcia (20-0) - January 2nd 2021

Campbell vs. Garcia Winner and How?


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Bob Weaver

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He's in the unfortunate situation of being in the weight division with an absolute mass of talent so even working his way to the next title is going to be heavy going. Moving up in weight would mean a similar struggle too imo.

He could probably earn a few quid with a domestic dust-up to against Burns, Selby or James Tennyson and hope that one of the world title belts becomes vacant in the meantime.
If I was Hearn I would try make Campbell - Ritson at 140, but I wouldn't take it if I was Ritson.


So, Hearn might be better trying to get him ranked at 140 with the hope of making the fight for a vacant title if /when Taylor/Ramirez have to drop belts.
 

Bob Weaver

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Good fight Ritson massive underdog.
Yeah, I think he would be silly to take it tbh. Unless they can wangle it as a vacant title fight.

It's a good fight though, and if we were allowed crowds it would sell very well and do good numbers on TV.
 
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I'm a big fan but thought Campbell's/his corner's reading of the fight left a lot to be desired tbh.

They seemed all chips in on taking it late and made it the only way they could win - making Luke a sitting duck.

Besides the knockdown, where he didn't ramp up the pressure, there were lots of occasions where he attacked, drew and avoided the counter, but there was no phase 2 attack when the opportunity was right there in front of him.

It was almost Gallagher-esque in his reluctance to try to win, or take anything out of the opponent, until late on.
 
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"The judges all had the 22-year-old Mexican-American ahead up until the seventh and final round. Rey Danseco had it 58-56, while Mark Lyson and Glenn Feldman had it 58-55, all for Garcia. Nelson and Feldman gave all the rounds to Garcia, except for the second round, the round in which Campbell scored a knockdown with an overhand left. Meanwhile, Danseco gave Campbell the fourth round, in addition to the second. For some reason, Danseco only gave Campbell a 10-9 advantage for round two, the round in which Campbell scored the knockdown.

“Now I’m thinking, bloody hell, it was probably lose-lose for me anyhow because if I had beaten him – which I would have never gotten a points decision anyhow, not with that scorecard – I would have had to knock him out to beat him,” Campbell said."


Corrupt. Just shows that anyone associated with Canelo (or other famous moneymakers such as Floyd M), and who is hyped to be the next big thing in boxing, should be avoided. As many have pointed out already, the commentators were extremely biased too. They even made the KD in round 2 sound like something positive in Garcia's favour! Unbelievable to me how one judge could score that a 10-9 round rather than 10-8.

Who wants to fight Garcia now, with such scorecards from a fight that (in my opinion at least) was pretty even until the end?
 

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I thought Campbell took 2 and 4, but 4 was close.

Additionally, Garcia getting knocked down was a good thing for him, a good experience. His reaction, getting up, staying calm, and getting to work, was also good.
 
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"The judges all had the 22-year-old Mexican-American ahead up until the seventh and final round. Rey Danseco had it 58-56, while Mark Lyson and Glenn Feldman had it 58-55, all for Garcia. Nelson and Feldman gave all the rounds to Garcia, except for the second round, the round in which Campbell scored a knockdown with an overhand left. Meanwhile, Danseco gave Campbell the fourth round, in addition to the second. For some reason, Danseco only gave Campbell a 10-9 advantage for round two, the round in which Campbell scored the knockdown.

“Now I’m thinking, bloody hell, it was probably lose-lose for me anyhow because if I had beaten him – which I would have never gotten a points decision anyhow, not with that scorecard – I would have had to knock him out to beat him,” Campbell said."


Corrupt. Just shows that anyone associated with Canelo (or other famous moneymakers such as Floyd M), and who is hyped to be the next big thing in boxing, should be avoided. As many have pointed out already, the commentators were extremely biased too. They even made the KD in round 2 sound like something positive in Garcia's favour! Unbelievable to me how one judge could score that a 10-9 round rather than 10-8.

Who wants to fight Garcia now, with such scorecards from a fight that (in my opinion at least) was pretty even until the end?

Its not Garcia fault is it. The blame lies with promotors. We have had this discussion before on here. The judges get treated to all expenses hotel foid etc etc

Ritson recent fight prime example it happens in uk as well but the last 2 BT fights show some can be fair. Not defending Garcia but the fight was difficult to score it depends on what u like.

But a 10-9 in round 2 no
 
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Its not Garcia fault is it. The blame lies with promotors. We have had this discussion before on here. The judges get treated to all expenses hotel foid etc etc

Ritson recent fight prime example it happens in uk as well but the last 2 BT fights show some can be fair. Not defending Garcia but the fight was difficult to score it depends on what u like.

But a 10-9 in round 2 no
You are right. It is not Garcia's fault. It is boxing politics and business. And corrupt judges, who wants to stay in the spotlight, travel around and receive gifts etc., and consequently give even rounds to the A-side. We all know how this works. However, for the sake of Garcia's career, there is a limit to how much he can be hyped and get every round, and even a 9-10 round when he is knocked down. Some boxers may not want to fight him now, unless there is extra money on the table, or they consider themselves the A-side and the boxer believes he has a good chance of beating the kid. A more evenly scored fight against Campbell could have made the road forward a bit easier for him and his management.
 
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Its not Garcia fault is it. The blame lies with promotors. We have had this discussion before on here. The judges get treated to all expenses hotel foid etc etc

Ritson recent fight prime example it happens in uk as well but the last 2 BT fights show some can be fair. Not defending Garcia but the fight was difficult to score it depends on what u like.

But a 10-9 in round 2 no
Judges are supposed to apply scoring criteria objectively and with integrity.

Anyone notice how they pretended/presented Danseco as being objective by saying he's from the Philippines, even though he's living in the US? Scumbag blatantly scored the KD round 10-9.
 

Bob Weaver

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Bruno and Groves both became champions at the 4th attempt.

It's hard to see how Campbell manages that though, not with all the talent available at 135 and 140.

Would be a belt to become vacant and get a soft opponent.
 
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