Man U under Ole Gunnar

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They have but reality is starting to hit home now. The timing of the decision to give him the permanent job was very poor. He started exceptionally well, and if he'd been given the full time job on the back of the PSG result then it would have been hard to complain, although I'd have still thought it a poor decision. But to give him the job 2 defeats later was odd, to say the least. The smart thing to do would have been to wait until the end of April. Ole wasn't going anywhere anyway and we had/have a run of very tough games. 3 defeats later and with Barce and Everton away and City and Chelsea at home still to play this month things could look very different by the end of April.

Another worry, other than the results themselves, is the way we've been playing. The first 5 or so games were great, 4-3-3, high pressing, all action football. Since then, even when the results have come, there haven't been many great performances. We've chopped and changed tactics every week with some very odd decisions. CB's playing at full back despite full backs being fit and vice versa, different formations every game etc. Someone on here suggested he wants to paly the high press but the squad simply isn't fit enough. I hope that's the case and we come back after the summer playing as we did in his first few games. Right now I'm not full of confidence but we'll see.
 
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Jay

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He got the job after a very, very long honeymoon period. They lucked out beyond lucked out against PSG. I'd be surprised if OGS survives next season.

He was probably what they needed to finish out the season, but I really can't imagine he's the best long term solution they have. He wasn't a great manager elsewhere, and as I said, he lucked out with a huge honeymoon period.
 
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Started 11 points off Chelsea now 2 behind with a game in hand. We never would have been involved in the top four race under Mourinho so the team has improved under Ole even if recent performances have been poor but injuries have played a big part in that.

The worrying thing for me though is how the teams form is tied to Pogba's. In his first 11 games under Ole he had something ridiculous like 9 goals and 5 assists and we were performing exceptional. Since then he's been poor and so have we.
 

Jack

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I think they just look like a tired team at the moment and I don't think they have the quality to rotate in the way they've needed to either. Their first 11 under Solskjaer has performed well but not only does that need more quality, the squad depth is poor because of how bad the transfer windows have been under former managers. I don't think there's any reason to panic though and he's still done a very good job overall. In the league since he took over, they're one point behind City and two behind Liverpool yet some people have said that a manager like Paul Ince could have had the same effect...mad.
 
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We lost at home to PSG, away to Arsenal home To Barca and twice to Wolves. who have only been beaten twice all season by teams in the top 6. I can forgive him.

He was probably announced because there are players who are running out of contract and want some kind of clarity about the future of the club before committing to signing new deals.

Football fans are so fickle. This graphic tells us all plenty. Ole has beaten Arsenal away, Tottenham away, Chelsea away. He got a draw against Liverpool who look like they are favourites to win the league seeing as they have an easy run in and Man City still have to play Spurs and then United at Old Trafford.

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Honeymoon period is truly over and it was a panic appointment as soon as Zidane & Poch were unattainable.

The way they want to play is kind of Wolves lite rely a solid line of defence and play on the counter but when on the ball with possession they kind of lack ideas of breaking teams down. With all due respect that is not the United way and not the way an Top class team wins things these days you need more in the locker.

There is a huge overhaul needed and seems to be no one really capable at the club of doing this. Most teams have a structure at the club including a DOF & ect. but United seems to have no structure or direction IMO.
 

Jack

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Honeymoon period is truly over and it was a panic appointment as soon as Zidane & Poch were unattainable.
The interest in them two was very brief because Solskjaer started winning straight off the bat and then there was no interest in anyone else. Red Cafe had polls after each game as to who they wanted to be permanent manager and probably after 4-5 games, Solskjaer was the clear favourite amongst the options. If you look at his actions, it's pretty clear that Zidane was hoping for the United job and as soon as he realised it wasn't going to him, went back to Madrid, but he wouldn't be there now if Solskjaer wasn't who everyone wanted to be in charge.
 
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The interest in them two was very brief because Solskjaer started winning straight off the bat and then there was no interest in anyone else. Red Cafe had polls after each game as to who they wanted to be permanent manager and probably after 4-5 games, Solskjaer was the clear favourite amongst the options. If you look at his actions, it's pretty clear that Zidane was hoping for the United job and as soon as he realised it wasn't going to him, went back to Madrid, but he wouldn't be there now if Solskjaer wasn't who everyone wanted to be in charge.
Of course all United fans and the board wanted Ole in charge which after the run they had I suppose is understandable but common sense such over rule nostalgia and sentiment every time.

The appointment is very reminiscent of Dalglish (2nd time), Di Matteo and Stuart Pearce at Forest. It is baffling a huge club made such a decision.
 
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People are acting like some kind of disaster has happened because we lost to Arsenal (away), Barca and PSG... The only major disappointment was the two losses to Wolves which we should have done better in. But as I said above Wolves have only lost twice to the top 6 this season. It is by no means panic stations.

Everyone is aware that there needs to be some serious movement in the transfer window both in and out. Ole has done a remarkable job so far.
 
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AntG

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I think the problem lies with Woodward and the structure of the club more than the manager, they've just had two managers who have had a lot of success over the years. I don't know how true this is or if it's been twisted by the media but Woodward apparently tried to sell the managers job to Jurgen Klopp by describing Manchester United as being like Disneyland.
 
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We need 4/5 players

Fact is formed dipped when Lingard martial rashford stopped being fit in unison and Pogba had 3 poor games vs wolves and arsenal, although second wolves game he wasn't that bad, and red card played a bigger problem

Young has been awful in these games and defence is shaky as ever
 
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