Maxim Dadeshev dies at 28.

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Only way to prevent this is to remove the “no mas” stigma culture we have in this sport.

15 to 12 rounds can’t help you if you absorbed harder and more punches.
 
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And how dangerous incompetent/dumb people around a fighter can be, making him walk out of the ring instead of immediately putting him on a stretcher.
Anytime we have someone come in for a stroke, we need to do everything under 30 minutes. This dude had clear symptoms of a brain bleed, and they bullshitted around
 
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Only way to prevent this is to remove the “no mas” stigma culture we have in this sport.

15 to 12 rounds can’t help you if you absorbed harder and more punches.
I'd honestly be up for doing 4 rounds, k-1 style. Faster pace, far less damage, and can incorporate more tournaments.

More realistically, they should do same day weigh ins with hydration testing. Hydration testing has you weigh in after your pee is diluted enough(hydrated), and from that weight you're only allowed to cut so many pounds
 
Aug 28, 2014
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Only way to prevent this is to remove the “no mas” stigma culture we have in this sport.

15 to 12 rounds can’t help you if you absorbed harder and more punches.
Only way to prevent this is by not getting hit in the head, the sport doesnt have alot of deaths for how violent it actually is

The main thing is if a fighter gets stopped he should be taking to hospital straight away no interview or anything, its crazy how people get ktfo get up and then wait to do their interview
 
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Only way to prevent this is by not getting hit in the head, the sport doesnt have alot of deaths for how violent it actually is

One way to minimize it is to DO SOMETHING ABOUT ALL THE MASSIVE WEIGHT-DRAINING.

But they won't, of course.

Also, as someone mentioned elsewhere, they should probably have an oxygen system at the ring, in every fight, and use it every time a fighter is KO'd, and every time a fight is stopped. It's a preventative measure that has no down sides, and could make all the difference in the world.
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Slightly off-topic, but I can't believe that I didn't see the warning signs during the fight. I actually thought McGirt should have let it go on. (barely)
Ask me how stupid I feel now ..... (stupid isn't quite the right word.)

Goes to show just how hard it is to make such judgements, and thus how hard it would be to create "during the fight" rules that could minimize such things.
 
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One way to minimize it is to DO SOMETHING ABOUT ALL THE MASSIVE WEIGHT-DRAINING.

But they won't, of course.

Also, as someone mentioned elsewhere, they should probably have an oxygen system at the ring, in every fight, and use it every time a fighter is KO'd, and every time a fight is stopped. It's a preventative measure that has no down sides, and could make all the difference in the world.
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Slightly off-topic, but I can't believe that I didn't see the warning signs during the fight. I actually thought McGirt should have let it go on. (barely)
Ask me how stupid I feel now ..... (stupid isn't quite the right word.)

Goes to show just how hard it is to make such judgements, and thus how hard it would be to create "during the fight" rules that could minimize such things.
They should have a 10% limit of hydration, same day weigh ins wont help people like Hurd will still try and hydrate 15lbs in a few hours but definitely should have a limit for each weigh in, morning weigh ins dont help either means the fighter will drain til the next morning they need to have it nearer to the fight
 

DB Cooper

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Boxing is a dangerous sport and that is something I personally never underestimate.

It is tragic the sport has claimed Maxim Dadeshev and at only 28. But sadly, there have been deaths before and there will definitely be more in future.

How boxing can be made safer is a multi-faceted problem. But for the necessary changes to be made enough people, and people with the right amount of persuasion, need to care enough.
 

Dazl1212

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One way to minimize it is to DO SOMETHING ABOUT ALL THE MASSIVE WEIGHT-DRAINING.

But they won't, of course.

Also, as someone mentioned elsewhere, they should probably have an oxygen system at the ring, in every fight, and use it every time a fighter is KO'd, and every time a fight is stopped. It's a preventative measure that has no down sides, and could make all the difference in the world.
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Slightly off-topic, but I can't believe that I didn't see the warning signs during the fight. I actually thought McGirt should have let it go on. (barely)
Ask me how stupid I feel now ..... (stupid isn't quite the right word.)

Goes to show just how hard it is to make such judgements, and thus how hard it would be to create "during the fight" rules that could minimize such things.
What signs were there before it was stopped? I haven't seen it and don't fancy watching it.
 
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What signs were there before it was stopped? I haven't seen it and don't fancy watching it.
Not a lot really. He was punching back. McGirt had a lot of foresight to stop it when he did because Dadashev really didn't show much at all. The only thing was he was taking a beating, but it wasn't anything, from what we saw, near the level of Lebedev/Jones or Castillo/Corrales-esque.

The only thing that was a slight indicator was that he wasn't really responding much when McGirt was begging him to stop the fight on his own will. He had that thousand-mile stare, really.

I don't think we can make this sport much more safe. I mean you get hit in the head for a living. You can't really make that safe, ever. Getting knocked out is not a safe thing. It's a dangerous sport that will always be dangerous because the purpose of it is to inflict as much damage on your opponent as possible.

Anyways, a bit crazy because I was at a bar with some labmates when I read it up on the screen that was showing ESPN. Shit, my heart sank after reading that he died. Last update we got was that he was fine but they had to do surgery.
 
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Only way to prevent this is by not getting hit in the head, the sport doesnt have alot of deaths for how violent it actually is

The main thing is if a fighter gets stopped he should be taking to hospital straight away no interview or anything, its crazy how people get ktfo get up and then wait to do their interview
I think this is what needs to happen. These interviews after someone gets stopped are straight pointless and dangerous. It just takes away vital time for them to be checked.

If you get stopped, you should be put on a stretcher, mandatory, and sent to the hospital for testing. I mean they urge you to get tested after car crashes even if you didn't get injured. Why the hell don't they do it after someone gets almost decapitated by a punch? I think money needs to be put aside during every purse-bid for hospital funds solely for this purpose. If it's left unused, donate it to a boxing charity or put it for future boxer's hospital funds.

Anyways, I think we really need to care for fighters after they get stopped.
 

Dazl1212

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Not a lot really. He was punching back. McGirt had a lot of foresight to stop it when he did because Dadashev really didn't show much at all. The only thing was he was taking a beating, but it wasn't anything, from what we saw, near the level of Lebedev/Jones or Castillo/Corrales-esque.

The only thing that was a slight indicator was that he wasn't really responding much when McGirt was begging him to stop the fight on his own will. He had that thousand-mile stare, really.

I don't think we can make this sport much more safe. I mean you get hit in the head for a living. You can't really make that safe, ever. Getting knocked out is not a safe thing. It's a dangerous sport that will always be dangerous because the purpose of it is to inflict as much damage on your opponent as possible.

Anyways, a bit crazy because I was at a bar with some labmates when I read it up on the screen that was showing ESPN. Shit, my heart sank after reading that he died. Last update we got was that he was fine but they had to do surgery.
Thanks for sharing that. I agree with the other sentiments expressed in that if a fighter is ko'd or taking a bad beating they should be taken straight to hospital.

I couldn't believe for instance pacman was interviewed aftr Marquez iced him.
 
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