Maxim Dadeshev dies at 28.

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Not a lot really. He was punching back. McGirt had a lot of foresight to stop it when he did because Dadashev really didn't show much at all. The only thing was he was taking a beating, but it wasn't anything, from what we saw, near the level of Lebedev/Jones or Castillo/Corrales-esque.

The only thing that was a slight indicator was that he wasn't really responding much when McGirt was begging him to stop the fight on his own will. He had that thousand-mile stare, really.

I don't think we can make this sport much more safe. I mean you get hit in the head for a living. You can't really make that safe, ever. Getting knocked out is not a safe thing. It's a dangerous sport that will always be dangerous because the purpose of it is to inflict as much damage on your opponent as possible.

Anyways, a bit crazy because I was at a bar with some labmates when I read it up on the screen that was showing ESPN. Shit, my heart sank after reading that he died. Last update we got was that he was fine but they had to do surgery.
Yea McGirt made a great call, i was watching the fight and i thought it was about time to stop it but since there was one more round, i thought Max could have pulled it off. I was completely wrong. It's tragic such great call didn't make a difference.
 
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Yea McGirt made a great call, i was watching the fight and i thought it was about time to stop it but since there was one more round, i thought Max could have pulled it off. I was completely wrong. It's tragic such great call didn't make a difference.
I disagree, if McGirt thought of stopping the fight earlier, he should have stopped it, not let it go on, not let his fighter over ride his decision. McGirt claims he knew something was wrong earlier when Maxim has trouble swallowing water between rounds...


McGirt did the same thing with Arturo Gatti during the Mayweather fight, he stopped the fight, yes, but way too late.
 
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One way to minimize it is to DO SOMETHING ABOUT ALL THE MASSIVE WEIGHT-DRAINING.

But they won't, of course.

Also, as someone mentioned elsewhere, they should probably have an oxygen system at the ring, in every fight, and use it every time a fighter is KO'd, and every time a fight is stopped. It's a preventative measure that has no down sides, and could make all the difference in the world.
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Slightly off-topic, but I can't believe that I didn't see the warning signs during the fight. I actually thought McGirt should have let it go on. (barely)
Ask me how stupid I feel now ..... (stupid isn't quite the right word.)

Goes to show just how hard it is to make such judgements, and thus how hard it would be to create "during the fight" rules that could minimize such things.
It's a catch 22. If they ban gaining weight after the weigh-in or push the weigh in earlier, fighters will enter the ring dehydrated. It's difficult to control.
 
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I wonder how this might also affect Buddy McGirt.

He's been training Kovalev for the last year, and Kovalev was of course involved in the death of a fighter.
How the heck do you deal with this kind of thing, and keep on going?
 
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Only way to prevent this is by not getting hit in the head, the sport doesnt have alot of deaths for how violent it actually is

The main thing is if a fighter gets stopped he should be taking to hospital straight away no interview or anything, its crazy how people get ktfo get up and then wait to do their interview
That won’t help though if a fighter takes a beating 12 rounds. The damage is done.

The best person to stop unnecessary punishment is the fighter themselves. They can feel if something is wrong. But we punish fighters if they call it quits. They can be feeling the worse headache in their entire life but they are afraid to stop because we know the worse thing in boxing is not losing or getting knocked out and looking silly like Khan, but calling it quit on the stool. Your earning potential nose dives.
 
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Hydration testing and same day weigh ins, like I said. When you're cutting water weight, you're also decreasing the fluid around your brain, which is crucial for cushion and operation
 
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That won’t help though if a fighter takes a beating 12 rounds. The damage is done.

The best person to stop unnecessary punishment is the fighter themselves. They can feel if something is wrong. But we punish fighters if they call it quits. They can be feeling the worse headache in their entire life but they are afraid to stop because we know the worse thing in boxing is not losing or getting knocked out and looking silly like Khan, but calling it quit on the stool. Your earning potential nose dives.
Not really every minute is vital, the brain starts swelling the quicker they can get to hospital instead of wasting 20 mins doing post fight interviews, Magomed took ages to get to hospital but still survived they cab always reduce long term damage if they are quicker
 
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Hydration testing and same day weigh ins, like I said. When you're cutting water weight, you're also decreasing the fluid around your brain, which is crucial for cushion and operation
If they do that then every fight would just be called off until people found ways around it, same day weigh ins are a no go only hydration limits probably of about 10% of the weight
 
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Sad sad news. That’s why I like how fast they stop fights in the UK. We all love those Rocky like comeback, but I’ve moved on personally. It’s not worth it at all, obviously. They should improve the post fight protocol, as discussed before. The fight should have been stopped before.
 

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I disagree, if McGirt thought of stopping the fight earlier, he should have stopped it, not let it go on, not let his fighter over ride his decision. McGirt claims he knew something was wrong earlier when Maxim has trouble swallowing water between rounds...


McGirt did the same thing with Arturo Gatti during the Mayweather fight, he stopped the fight, yes, but way too late.
Unable to swallow water should've been a red-flag. There's also a commissioner standing in the corner. If I were in that corner - especially as a commissioner- I would let the doctor check up on him or at least walk up to the doctor to inform him about it.
 
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Another fighter, Hugo Santillan has also died of injuries sustained from last week. The opening of the clip shows him hunched over. It was clear he needed medical attention immediately, yet these fucks keep him in there, wasting valuable time.

 
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There needs to be a system set up to get these guys directly to a hospital within 30 minutes. With brain bleeds, you don't have much time
 

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Another fighter, Hugo Santillan has also died of injuries sustained from last week. The opening of the clip shows him hunched over. It was clear he needed medical attention immediately, yet these fucks keep him in there, wasting valuable time.

That's some shocking negligence. Fuck me.
 
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Another fighter, Hugo Santillan has also died of injuries sustained from last week. The opening of the clip shows him hunched over. It was clear he needed medical attention immediately, yet these fucks keep him in there, wasting valuable time.


the fuck are they holding him up for?

He needed an ambulance ASAP.
 
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2 things making me way past angry:


1: Santillan completely collapsed, ye the idiot medical team took over FIVE minutes to decide to take him out on a stretcher. Did they think he just needed a little oxygen? Do these guys actually have medical licenses?


2: Abreu threw a LOT of blatant, intentional rabbit punches, and the ref did nothing.
WTF is wrong with these people? There's a reason that those punches are illegal.


That ref should never work again, and Abreu should be arrested for manslaughter.
 
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