RBR!!! Million to One Shot: Vasyl Lomachenko vs Anthony Crolla

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Yeah ropes, aye.

Crolla was moving constantly during the onslaught and was always aware of his surroundings.

I've got no issue with Reiss letting him go on. That would be hypocritical after praising him for giving Fury every chance.

I do feel the Crolla corner should have stopped it though. The ending was inevitable, but that's on the corner, not the ref.
Crolla was 5 seconds away from getting stopped though if he didnt get that knockdown

Its funny this sport is brutal if Reiss stopped it early Crolla would have complained forever saying he was ok and could have won, but because he let it go on he gets ktfo and probably has to retire now

Too much emphasis is on the ref, Crolla's corner should have pulled him after round 3 they know their fighter better than the ref, he did nothing up til that point
 
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Actually its a valid point. If he keeps fighting the Crollas and Pedrazas of the world then he should not be considered the P4P best.

Actually, I extend that to Linares, too.
I agree to an extent. But all of the contenders for P4P #1 have varying drawbacks, so I don't think Loma should be eliminated from the discussion based on recent opposition. And it's not like Crolla or Pedraza are scrubs. They were former/current 'world' champions and in the top ten when they faced Loma (in a weak division, admittedly).
 
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Crolla was 5 seconds away from getting stopped though if he didnt get that knockdown

Its funny this sport is brutal if Reiss stopped it early Crolla would have complained forever saying he was ok and could have won, but because he let it go on he gets ktfo and probably has to retire now

Too much emphasis is on the ref, Crolla's corner should have pulled him after round 3 they know their fighter better than the ref, he did nothing up til that point
Yeah that's it. No blame attached to the ref, for the non-stoppage in 3, but corner should have pulled him out after it.
 

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I agree to an extent. But all of the contenders for P4P #1 have varying drawbacks, so I don't think Loma should be eliminated from the discussion based on recent opposition. And it's not like Crolla or Pedraza are scrubs. They were former/current 'world' champions and in the top ten when they faced Loma (in a weak division, admittedly).
Lomas best ever opponent is Linares.
 
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I am slowly losing interest in boxing. Fed up with mismatches like this at the so called "elite level" when you see UFC putting on fantastic cards with genuinely good fights.

All the belts need to go in boxing. Take UFC's idea and have an interim and world title belt. It then sets apart the genuine elite rather than having belt holders who aren't at that level.
Agreed.

UFC card was incredible last night.

Can't remember a boxing card with two big fights that good.
 

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Actually its a valid point. If he keeps fighting the Crollas and Pedrazas of the world then he should not be considered the P4P best.

Actually, I extend that to Linares, too.
I actually think this is more appropriate for Crawford. Who is his best win? Does he have one better than Russell Jr, Linares or Walters? Lomachenko’s record is better than Crawford’s IMO.

I also think Usyk’s is better than both!
 
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People completely sleep on how good Loma's win over Russell Jnr is. In fact its rarely if ever talked about any more. Loma was two fights into his pro career and coming off a loss, but he took a massive risk in fighting Russell and clearly outboxed, out-thought and outslicked one of the most talented fighters in the game. That single win under those conditions is better than any win that Usyk, Crawford, GGG etc have had. It will continue to age like a fine wine if Russell actually gets his fucking career moving and takes on some of the best at 126, as he has a good chance to beat all the rest at the weight.
 
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Actually its a valid point. If he keeps fighting the Crollas and Pedrazas of the world then he should not be considered the P4P best.

Actually, I extend that to Linares, too.
Such a hating little girl. So you’re saying Lomachenko shouldn’t have fought his mandatory, and just thrown away that belt when it’s his stated goal to unify? Commey was injured, he was meant to be the opponent. Mikey was off getting shut out in a fight he didn’t even care about winning, Davis has no intention of fighting him.... what exactly do you expect Lomachenko to do in that situation?

Pedraza and Linares would be Mikey’s second and third best guys he has fought, and his top two wins. Yet you still dick ride that bum? Lomachenko has now shown better one punch power against better opposition than Mikey, so the idea that Mikey is the puncher in that match up needs to disappear as well.

Lomachenko’s resume is exceptional and he has always fought the best available opposition. You can’t say the same for Mikey. The only comparable resume in the sport is Canelo, and he hasn’t been dominant and convincing like Lomachenko. You’re a fucking idiot if you expect Lomachenko to vacate a belt instead of fighting Crolla.
 
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I actually think this is more appropriate for Crawford. Who is his best win? Does he have one better than Russell Jr, Linares or Walters? Lomachenko’s record is better than Crawford’s IMO.

I also think Usyk’s is better than both!
Crawford’s record is atrocious and many consider him a rival or the pound for pound number one. His best win is Gamboa and we know how much naturally bigger he is than Gamboa. Yet he still got hurt and lost rounds. Yet we still don’t give Loma credit for dominating and stopping Rigo (who is better than Gamboa).