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Nathan Cleverly retires

#61
So he won every title in the old-fashioned "right" way. Got the piss ripped out of him for his "reign of terror" - answers this with fights against:

Kovalev,
Bellew (away)
Fonfara (away)
Braehmer (away) and
Jack (away)

I think he should be rightly proud of himself and will be when he looks at his cabinet.

An entertaining, aggressive fighter who fought at world level with some success. Good on him.
Agreed. He wasn't my favourite but he was decent. There are a lot of British fighters who would have loved to have had a career like he had.

No complaints. He's had a good go at it.
 
#62
Didn't he move over to London to train with Booth but stay for all of about a week?

Being a come forward fighter without power is a bit of a recipe for failure against the top level, unless you have a really superb defence.

Clevery was never going to be a big puncher, but I really cant believe how poor his punch technique was, probably the worst Ive seen for a fighter oh his level. Basic shoulder and hips rotation wasn't there.
 
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DB Cooper

peel me a grape
#63
That's really the point I was making about Vince, it's the worst case I can think of a father taking a son away from a proven trainer because they think they can give it a go.
It happens in most sports and usually ends in disappointment, and in some cases disaster. As a parent, the best thing you can do is offer support and keep your nose out of things.
 
#64
It happens in most sports and usually ends in disappointment, and in some cases disaster. As a parent, the best thing you can do is offer support and keep your nose out of things.
Completely agree with that assessment, does Vince have any background in sport. Such an incredibly selfish decision to involve himself.
 
#65
Didn't he move over to London to train with Booth but stay for all of about a week?

Being a come forward fighter with power is a bit of a recipe for failure against the top level, unless you have a really superb defence.

Clevery was never going to be a big puncher, but I really cant believe how poor his punch technique was, probably the worst Ive seen for a fighter oh his level. Basic shoulder and hips rotation wasn't there.
His technique seemed to get worse on a fight by fight basis. It could be the level of opposition he was facing making it more obvious?
 
#67
30-years-old, retired instantly after a bad defeat, won't have made too much money from his career and would be a good name for up and coming prospect.

This has comeback written all over it. I notice Haskins is already back, and I would think Nathan will do the same. Him vs Buglioni would probably be chief support on a PPV.

If not, he's had a good career and I've enjoyed watching him. Kovalev took his soul, but there's no shame in that.
 
#68
30-years-old, retired instantly after a bad defeat, won't have made too much money from his career and would be a good name for up and coming prospect.

This has comeback written all over it. I notice Haskins is already back, and I would think Nathan will do the same. Him vs Buglioni would probably be chief support on a PPV.

If not, he's had a good career and I've enjoyed watching him. Kovalev took his soul, but there's no shame in that.
I fully agree with that and yeah he will be back when he does I just hope he ditches the Welsh Mr Motivator as a trainer.
 
#69
30-years-old, retired instantly after a bad defeat, won't have made too much money from his career and would be a good name for up and coming prospect.

This has comeback written all over it. I notice Haskins is already back, and I would think Nathan will do the same. Him vs Buglioni would probably be chief support on a PPV.

If not, he's had a good career and I've enjoyed watching him. Kovalev took his soul, but there's no shame in that.
You could well be right but I imagine he's made enough money to not have to come back (if he's not pissed it away).
 
R

Rob

Guest
#70
Credit to Cleverly. He won Commonwealth, British, European & World Titles. Always in great shape. Potentially could have achieved more but he never hid from a challenge and actively seeked out the best fights.
 
#72
Didn't he move over to London to train with Booth but stay for all of about a week?

Being a come forward fighter with power is a bit of a recipe for failure against the top level, unless you have a really superb defence.

Clevery was never going to be a big puncher, but I really cant believe how poor his punch technique was, probably the worst Ive seen for a fighter oh his level. Basic shoulder and hips rotation wasn't there.
Do you mean without power?
 
#76
it just seems to me hes on the back end of a massive night every now and then letting himself loose on his twitter. why not hes earnt loads of money, been a world champ fuck it he should enjoy himself.

id be a disaster area for a couple of hilarious years to be fair :lol::lol::lol:
 

Bajingo

Staff member
#78
If he's had legal issues with promoters there's one obvious candidate for who that could be but there's also Sauerland who he owed at least one fight to after Braehmer. They certainly don't mess around with the legal shit either.
 
#79
Clev’s whole career was managed abysmally. Can’t think of a recent world champion managed worse.

Feel like he could have had a far longer career, and earnt a lot more with the right guidance.
 
#80
I don't see him going broke. Would of made decent money with the Bellew fights, and I'd imagine he got a fair wage to travel at the tail end of his career. He also has that maths degree, so surely he could get a decent job if he needs it.
 
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