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May 17, 2013
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I went to the ER last night after getting a call from my Gastro about the results of an ultrasound test I had done this past Wednesday. Seems it showed some type anomaly in my right kidney and I had to go get an CT scan for a clearer idea about what exactly is going on. Dr. said it could be a tumor of some sort or a BIG kidney stone.

Well, it's a big kidney stone and I'm now sitting around waiting for the Urologist to call to set up a time for me to go have a procedure done to put in a stent and break up the stone for easier removal. I've had this done once before and the actual procedure is a piece of cake, but it's the pissing for the next 3 days or so that is no walk in the park. It feels like you're pissing razor blades, especially the first couple days since they insert the instruments through your urinary tract--------starting at the little head with one eye. The mere thought of this send shivers down my spine because I know what's in store.

Anyway, they estimate the stone to be 8 x 10 mm and as of now, it is stuck just outside the kidney in the urinary tract.


Getting old ain't for the squeamish.
 

thehook13

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As bad as kidney stone may be, it's the much lesser of two evils!

My pain tolerance is pretty high but I don't ever want to know what kidney stones are like
 
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As bad as kidney stone may be, it's the much lesser of two evils!

My pain tolerance is pretty high but I don't ever want to know what kidney stones are like
Trust me, you really don't want to find out. For me, it is by far the worst pain my body has ever been through if the stone is of sufficient size. There were more than a couple times I've found myself lying in a fetal position in agonizing pain, unable to move. I've had about 20 of them so far in my life but the last one was at least 5-6 years ago and I thought I was done with them.

Don't pay for me to think I guess.
 
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Update: Got a call from the Urologist and his opinion is the stone is lodged and likely won't move, causing me some nasty pain and since he is already booked up for today's procedures, I will be getting this done early next week-------------or sooner if it decides to make a move and sends me to the ER looking like Quasimodo.
 
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Best of luck buddy. My dad had this and he was in agony.

He's a tough dude, I've never seen him complain, but he had to go to bed every night straight after he came home from work. Totally wrecked him.

Will feel so much better when you get it fixed though
 
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SwollenGoat

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I went to the ER last night after getting a call from my Gastro about the results of an ultrasound test I had done this past Wednesday. Seems it showed some type anomaly in my right kidney and I had to go get an CT scan for a clearer idea about what exactly is going on. Dr. said it could be a tumor of some sort or a BIG kidney stone.

Well, it's a big kidney stone and I'm now sitting around waiting for the Urologist to call to set up a time for me to go have a procedure done to put in a stent and break up the stone for easier removal. I've had this done once before and the actual procedure is a piece of cake, but it's the pissing for the next 3 days or so that is no walk in the park. It feels like you're pissing razor blades, especially the first couple days since they insert the instruments through your urinary tract--------starting at the little head with one eye. The mere thought of this send shivers down my spine because I know what's in store.

Anyway, they estimate the stone to be 8 x 10 mm and as of now, it is stuck just outside the kidney in the urinary tract.


Getting old ain't for the squeamish.
good luck man :good

about six months ago I had some lithotripsy to break up an ELEVEN MM stone in my left kidney...........they put me out for it though,and for inserting the stent.............

pissed blood and chunks for a week..............

I chose that over getting cut open because I thought it would be less shit.................I may have been wrong..........

was awake when they pulled the fucking stent out though.....................jesus fuck almighty :wah
 
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kenny black

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I have had many kidney stones, for two years most days I was in discomfort . Now I am on a drug called methotrexate and have not had a kidney stone for two years, plus other problems cleared up.

I would feel like I had to take the worst piss and a couple of drops would come out. I would feel slightly better and 5 minutes later I would feel like I had to piss really bad again. Was like that day and night.

Of course sometimes I would get some pretty bad flank pain . I was sitting in emerge one night the sweat was dripping off me from the pain, made me think that it was high level pain if I was sweating.

I was not drinking milk while I had kidney stones but later a doctor told me to drink dairy it helps.
 
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Trust me, you really don't want to find out. For me, it is by far the worst pain my body has ever been through if the stone is of sufficient size. There were more than a couple times I've found myself lying in a fetal position in agonizing pain, unable to move. I've had about 20 of them so far in my life but the last one was at least 5-6 years ago and I thought I was done with them.

Don't pay for me to think I guess.

I have been there. You really can't describe the pain. Maybe the worst pain a human can feel. I have a stone now but the urologist told me it may never pass because of where it is. Last week I have awful back pain one night and was getting ready to go to ER. Decided to try and wait it out and in the morning the pain was gone. I have an appointment with urologist to see what that was about.
 
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I have had many kidney stones, for two years most days I was in discomfort . Now I am on a drug called methotrexate and have not had a kidney stone for two years, plus other problems cleared up.

I am on that medicine also but still go a stone.
 

kenny black

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I am on that medicine also but still go a stone.
I take 10 mg a week of methotrexate with folic acid before and after to minimize side effects. My specialist told me plaquinel is very good also and can be used in combination with the methotrexate, for my problem. Your problem might be different in nature. I have high calcium in my blood due to complicated things.
 
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Gumby, I have a benignly located 10mm kidney stone for which I had a preemptive lithotripsy scheduled for December 12 postponed until this spring or summer, due to winter weather, and your own excruciating 20 year history with kidney stones was a large part of the impetus in me taking action to head off what my female physicians and nurses who have suffered kidney stones tell me is a more severe pain than giving birth to twins. (I also have a few male physicians in their mid 70's tell me it's the worst pain they've ever experienced, aside from infected dental root canals.)

Like you, I'm on allopurinol, as uric acid levels are something I've had monitored since researching Robert Atkins in the late 1990's.

When you mentioned not having any more kidney stone issues after going on allopurinol, I decided not to mention what I'm now going to bring up with you, but now I think you had better research this yourself, so you never have to have a kidney stone dealt with again.

Okra is sky high in calcium oxalate:

https://kidneystones.uchicago.edu/how-to-eat-a-low-oxalate-diet/

You have to make a choice, based on what you've posted about the huge quantities of okra you've posted about growing in your garden, cooking and eating, combined with alternately posting about your long history with kidney stones. Is mass consumption of okra REALLY worth the kidney stone results you're repeatedly suffering from as a result?

I've had ONE kidney stone in my life which I ONLY know about from a liver ultrasound which unexpectedly displayed it last May, and I want it out of my system, ASAP! Your decades of mass okra consumption may have been bringing them on all these years, and if allopurinol isn't helping prevent you from developing kidney stones, then I wouldn't count on other uricosurics working either.


A few times, I've eaten a little okra. It's got a unique flavor that I'm indifferent to, but what you've posted about growing, cooking and eating okra, combined with what you've separately posted about your extensive experiences with kidney stones switched on a light in my head, thanks to reading Atkins, and learning how to prevent gallstones by monitoring bilirubin, controlling it with ursodiol (often with a terpene compound), since I'm the only person in my father's family to retain a healthy gall bladder (and intend to keep it that way). Learning something about preventing kidney stones prior to having mine discovered was an offshoot of that (but again, I didn't bring it up with you previously because you said allopurinol appeared to have allowed the calcium oxalate content in your okra and other foods you may eat to have stopped causing them - however, once kidney stones are developed, the risk of repeated episodes skyrocket - now we know allopurinol does not prevent kidney stones without dietary modifications.)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2964449/


Sorry man. I don't know if the choice between eating okra and suffering kidney stones is as daunting for you as my own emphysemic mother's choice between continuing to chain smoke cancer sticks (after having quit for 15 years) and possibly developing terminal lung cancer, or going through the anxiety inducing stress of quitting again, but again instantly losing her smoker's cough and living a better quality of life for a few more years is for her. (My late bitch aunt caused my mother to relapse back into smoking by staying over on Memorial Day weekend a few years ago. My aunt chain smoked for over 68 years before finally becoming the first person in her family's known history to develop cancer, and it was fatal lung cancer. Still, she didn't quit until she moved in with her non smoking daughters.)

For all I know, you'd rather die from kidney stones than give up okra (and the way you've sometimes posted about growing, cooking and eating okra makes me wonder), but can you make major dietary changes if it means no more pain and suffering from kidney stones? (Since you've suffered from them so much for so long, those dietary changes are going to be on the more extreme end for you, even with allopurinol, but nobody should suffer like that, unless an absolute masochist. Personally, I do not enjoy pain, and derive no endorphin rush from it like girls who cut or starve themselves.)
 
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I have had many kidney stones, for two years most days I was in discomfort . Now I am on a drug called methotrexate and have not had a kidney stone for two years, plus other problems cleared up.

I would feel like I had to take the worst piss and a couple of drops would come out. I would feel slightly better and 5 minutes later I would feel like I had to piss really bad again. Was like that day and night.

Of course sometimes I would get some pretty bad flank pain . I was sitting in emerge one night the sweat was dripping off me from the pain, made me think that it was high level pain if I was sweating.

I was not drinking milk while I had kidney stones but later a doctor told me to drink dairy it helps.

I was always thinking the feeling of an urge to pee like a racehorse was happening when the stone was in the bladder, but I was corrected by my urologist when he said that feeling means the stone is trying to enter the bladder. Either way, it is annoying as hell like you described. The feeling like you will pee for a couple minutes only to see drips and drops for a few seconds and you're done, only to rinse and repeat in short order.

The feeling of the stone passing is unique for sure, start peeing a fair stream and that sudden slowing down to a stop sometimes and feeling the stone traveling down your urinary tract out the penis is weird for sure, but the sudden rush of urine that follows it reinforces the knowledge the stone has passed and the worst if over. What a relief that is.

As for fluid intake, it really helps to drink a lot of water, especially when having a bout with stones.
 
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DB Cooper

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I went to the ER last night after getting a call from my Gastro about the results of an ultrasound test I had done this past Wednesday. Seems it showed some type anomaly in my right kidney and I had to go get an CT scan for a clearer idea about what exactly is going on. Dr. said it could be a tumor of some sort or a BIG kidney stone.

Well, it's a big kidney stone and I'm now sitting around waiting for the Urologist to call to set up a time for me to go have a procedure done to put in a stent and break up the stone for easier removal. I've had this done once before and the actual procedure is a piece of cake, but it's the pissing for the next 3 days or so that is no walk in the park. It feels like you're pissing razor blades, especially the first couple days since they insert the instruments through your urinary tract--------starting at the little head with one eye. The mere thought of this send shivers down my spine because I know what's in store.

Anyway, they estimate the stone to be 8 x 10 mm and as of now, it is stuck just outside the kidney in the urinary tract.


Getting old ain't for the squeamish.
8 x 10mm is a decent sized annoyance. Hope they sort it out for you soon mate.
 

thehook13

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Trust me, you really don't want to find out. For me, it is by far the worst pain my body has ever been through if the stone is of sufficient size. There were more than a couple times I've found myself lying in a fetal position in agonizing pain, unable to move. I've had about 20 of them so far in my life but the last one 59was at least 5-6 years ago and I thought I was done with them.

Don't pay for me to think I guess.
God that sounds grim mate. Best of luck with it ! Hopefully it all passes quickly
 

Duo

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I was always thinking the feeling of an urge to pee like a racehorse was happening when the stone was in the bladder, but I was corrected by my urologist when he said that feeling means the stone is trying to enter the bladder. Either way, it is annoying as hell like you described. The feeling like you will pee for a couple minutes only to see drips and drops for a few seconds and you're done, only to rinse and repeat in short order.

The feeling of the stone passing is unique for sure, start peeing a fair stream and that sudden slowing down to a stop sometimes and feeling the stone traveling down your urinary tract out the penis is weird for sure, but the sudden rush of urine that follows it reinforces the knowledge the stone has passed and the worst if over. What a relief that is.

As for fluid intake, it really helps to drink a lot of water, especially when having a bout with stones.
Voice of very extensive experience giving excellent advice on how to deal with stones with that post. If my 10mm kidney stone dislodges, I'll be mentally scanning your posts immediately on dealing with it.

For preventing the formation of kidney stones in the first place, might be worth mentioning here that alternatives to sugar sweeteners have been linked to kidney stones, including stevia, aspartame, saccharine, sucralose and anything ending in "ose." (Robert Atkins, in his original 1972 bestseller made it clear that if it's at all possible to cut out any sweets of all kinds, do it. The line from the 1928 hit "Button Up Your Overcoat" which says "cut out sweets" has always been excellent dietary advice which doesn't distinguish between cane sugar, raw fruits, or any alternatives to natural sugars.)

Commonly, whatever fluid intake allows for objectively producing two and a half quarts of urine daily is considered healthy. My father tried drinking ten glasses of water a day after he heard that's what should be taken in, but he was drinking 16 ounce glasses! Robert Atkins wrote not to push fluid intake excessively. Some athletes literally kill themselves by drinking too much water (hyponatremia), while urinating too frequently can cause bladder irritation.

A former urologist of my father's who's now 99 years old, and was one of my buddies when I worked my first job at his hospital told me that urology problems skyrocketed after Mr. Coffee was introduced by Joe DiMaggio onto the American household market in 1973. Until then, people were brewing coffee on their stoves, only enough for a single eight ounce cup for each parent before work. Once Mr. Coffee came into homes, it was cup after cup, after cup of this diuretic.

Soda came in eight ounce GLASS bottles and were sugar sweetened. That changed when the synthetic appetite stimulant sweetener high fructose corn syrup replaced sugar in soda (that's what the controversial April 1985 formula switch to New Coke actually involved, and HFCS remained the sweetener for the "return" to "classic" Coke, but the early 1985 hoarders of the sugar sweetened Coke were justified), then larger and larger containers of soda became standard, bolstered by the replacement of glass with plastic and aluminum 12 ounce cans. (Ultimately, purported new DNC POTUS front runner Mike Bloomberg imposed a sugary drinks portion cap law for NYC which continued to be supported by mayoral successor and fellow 2020 DNC POTUS candidate Bill De Blasio. Ironically, Bloomberg slandered Atkins after his accidental death, despite Atkins being a bigger enemy of sweeteners than Bloomberg and De Blasio ever thought of being, although Atkins wasn't cool with banning anything, and in fact slammed the FDA for banning cyclamates in 1972. In nearly half a century since, sodium cyclamate remains a legal sweetener in 130 countries, and no evidence has ever been found for it as carcinogenic. Late 1960's bans on cyclamates in both the UK and Philippines were reversed in 1996 and 2013 respectively.)

There's no substitute for a competent urologist. Back in 2003, I had that constant urge to pee badly AFTER I'd completely emptied my bladder into a 1000 CC bottle, and I was far too young to have an enlarged prostate. Turned out I had developed chronic prostatitis that can mimic BPH. I had to suffer through 12 agonizing weeks while waiting for the Detrol LA I was prescribed for relief to take effect. (After several months, the Detrol LA began to stop working, so I was switched to Ditropan XL, but getting shelved from being employable at least started me on the successful process of quickly obtaining permanent disability for a lifelong condition. In 2004, I met my girlfriend, interning for her doctorate at my pharmacy, and she got me switched to finasteride, which I remain on to this day with no recurrence of urinary problems. It also got me started on annual urology examinations at a much earlier age than most, and a few dozen acquaintances I knew in 2003 have long since developed and died of prostate cancer when they were younger than I am. That can be a rather excruciating way to die.)

Everybody with kids, or about to become parents or grandparents, would do their children or grandchildren a favor by making sure they were breast fed until age ten, then switched to water or low carbohydrate vegetable juices rather than sweet fluids. Long after you're gone, their urinary systems will thank you (and unemployed urologists will curse you).
 
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