NZ Mosque Shooting

tommygun711

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So politically this guy started out as a communist, shifted towards libertarianism and then turned into a full blown neo-fascist/nazi type by the end.

This is the end result of the pathology of identity politics on the extreme right...
 
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And this is why bullshit like Israel and Palestine is so hard to ever fix. You have a guy in the UK who has never lost anyone close to him in a terrorist attack, actually saying it is a good thing that someone went and shot dead unarmed people, including little kids because they are Muslim and Muslim terrorists have killed lots of innocent people too.

It's the EXACT same justification that Muslim extremists use for terror attacks. "What about the bombs you guys dropped on Iraq" to a nation of people who didn't choose to drop those bombs, didn't man the planes etc.
If they were unarmed how were shots fired back as he fled? Most mosques are packing heat

No its not the exact same justification? Has he said glory to jebus when killing folk? No.

Basically that post sucked
 
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It's obviously a form of terrorism. He's also a nut. They go hand in hand as far as I'm concerned. You can't be willing to kill innocent civilians in a terrorist act without being a bit of a nut. Especially in such a calculated and personal way.
It's a very grey area in my opinion, I mean we could look at the horrendous things people did to others during the Holocaust (or ... take your pick) but by all other accounts, they were probably completely normal people. It's terrifying what you can have someone do to others through indoctrination and ideology. They're not rational people but calling them crazy doesn't fit right for me, kinda let's them off the hook... there must be some other word for it.
 

Dazl1212

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Anyone who see it think he's military trained? If you have seen the videos he is efficient and clinical as fuck. Accurate. Switching guns, clearing aJam like a pro.
Looks it to me, he wasn't exactly just spraying and praying, but I'm no expert.
 
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It's a very grey area in my opinion, I mean we could look at the horrendous things people did to others during the Holocaust (or ... take your pick) but by all other accounts, they were probably completely normal people. It's terrifying what you can have someone do to others through indoctrination and ideology. They're not rational people but calling them crazy doesn't fit right for me, kinda let's them off the hook... there must be some other word for it.
this guy was def a terrorist. but in general terms imo the word is weak.

i forgot the name so i looked up the milgram experiment and i just read that in a reacreation 50% of men and 100% of women electrocuted a fucking puppy. with barely any indocrination 75% of humans will electrocute a puppy just because they are told too. weak mother fuckers.
 
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this guy was def a terrorist. but in general terms imo the word is weak.

i forgot the name so i looked up the milgram experiment and i just read that in a recreation 50% of men and 100% of women electrocuted a fucking puppy. with barely any indoctrination 75% of humans will electrocute a puppy just because they are told too. weak mother fuckers.
Yeah, I've looked at this before too, there is also a subservience to authority effect where people will just automatically carry out instructions, regardless of morality because the person instructing them is wearing a uniform or carrying a clipboard. Different people are more or less prone to acting in this way but the majority so .. I think most folk would like to believe they wouldn't be the ones rounding up people in the concentration camps but they most likely would.

Someone said in another post that this guy has cycled through a number of extreme political position.
 

kf3

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Yeah, I've looked at this before too, there is also a subservience to authority effect where people will just automatically carry out instructions, regardless of morality because the person instructing them is wearing a uniform or carrying a clipboard. Different people are more or less prone to acting in this way but the majority so .. I think most folk would like to believe they wouldn't be the ones rounding up people in the concentration camps but they most likely would.

Someone said in another post that this guy has cycled through a number of extreme political position.
yeah. i meant to write that this guy was both a terrorist and delusional/a psycopath (not sure if that's the right terms)
 
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