NZ Mosque Shooting

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If they were unarmed how were shots fired back as he fled? Most mosques are packing heat

No its not the exact same justification? Has he said glory to jebus when killing folk? No.

Basically that post sucked
You're a fucking idiot. I didn't say it was a Christian attack did I? So you're Jesus point is idiotic. I was replying to the idea that it is payback and thus understandable.

This IS the justification that numerous Muslim terrorists use. The 7/7 bombers explicitly stated on video that this was revenge for the murder of Muslims in Afghanistan and Iraq by the west.

When people justify killing random strangers who have done nothing because a person or people with some shared identity did something bad to a group the attacker feels bonded to, it's the same justification.

Islamic terrorists are a far bigger threat, and far more prevalent. Some, like ISIS don't need any justification or political goal. Lots of others have one. Al Qaeda included.

But understanding this and being able to see parallel "what aboutism" in attacks from hugely different ideologies requires a grasp of nuance and common sense.

So it's no surprise that you missed it with your simplistic, childish grasp of all issues. Tell us all again how only 300,000 Jews died in the Holocaust you dumb fuck.
 
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You're a fucking idiot. I didn't say it was a Christian attack did I? So you're Jesus point is idiotic. I was replying to the idea that it is payback and thus understandable.

This IS the justification that numerous Muslim terrorists use. The 7/7 bombers explicitly stated on video that this was revenge for the murder of Muslims in Afghanistan and Iraq by the west.

When people justify killing random strangers who have done nothing because a person or people with some shared identity did something bad to a group the attacker feels bonded to, it's the same justification.

Islamic terrorists are a far bigger threat, and far more prevalent. Some, like ISIS don't need any justification or political goal. Lots of others have one. Al Qaeda included.

But understanding this and being able to see parallel "what aboutism" in attacks from hugely different ideologies requires a grasp of nuance and common sense.

So it's no surprise that you missed it with your simplistic, childish grasp of all issues. Tell us all again how only 300,000 Jews died in the Holocaust you dumb fuck.
No you said exact same justification - when its not
 
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You're a fucking idiot. I didn't say it was a Christian attack did I? So you're Jesus point is idiotic. I was replying to the idea that it is payback and thus understandable.

This IS the justification that numerous Muslim terrorists use. The 7/7 bombers explicitly stated on video that this was revenge for the murder of Muslims in Afghanistan and Iraq by the west.

When people justify killing random strangers who have done nothing because a person or people with some shared identity did something bad to a group the attacker feels bonded to, it's the same justification.

Islamic terrorists are a far bigger threat, and far more prevalent. Some, like ISIS don't need any justification or political goal. Lots of others have one. Al Qaeda included.

But understanding this and being able to see parallel "what aboutism" in attacks from hugely different ideologies requires a grasp of nuance and common sense.

So it's no surprise that you missed it with your simplistic, childish grasp of all issues. Tell us all again how only 300,000 Jews died in the Holocaust you dumb fuck.
Ok I will...........but start a thread
 
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Yeah, while the rest of the world condemn shooting kids in the head and think that post is vile...surprise surprise, the resident Holocaust denier, myopic racist with the political insight of an 11 year old posts it up like it's some slam dunk of logic.

What a repugnant waste of skin you are.
Well yeah strike lets just go along with what everyone else is thinking because you know - conformity is all

He is clearly right

Perhaps they need jewish level security?
 
Jun 8, 2013
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The media and politicians should start coining the phrase “soft as fuck attack”.
It’s not terror, left or right politics, it’s just the easiest way you can imagine doing it.
Go and make a name for yourself against something that’s not soft likea mosque or a crowd out busy Xmas shopping etc etc.
Hit a real target of your mental issues.
I real fucking hard one like a military or government and leave innocent people out of it for crying out loud.
 
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You can't even read properly. :lol:

Remember when you were claiming England voted to Remain because you didn't grasp basic statistics? :lol:
It's the EXACT same justification that Muslim extremists use - you

No its not - me

I never claimed that, what i said was England was not dragging the UK out and again i was right
 

Dazl1212

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Attacks occurred at two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand, killing 49 people and injuring at least 20 others.[1][2][3] The attack is the first mass shooting in New Zealand since the 1997 Raurimu massacre,[4][5][6]and the deadliest in New Zealand since the 1943 Featherston prisoner of war camp riot, which also saw 49 people killed.[7] The shootings have been described as a terrorist attack by Prime Minister Jacinda Ardernand multiple governments internationally.[8][3]

Police found two car bombs in a vehicle.[9] The New Zealand Defence Force defused them without incident.[9][10][9]

Al Noor Mosque, Riccarton
A heavily armed shooter attacked the Al Noor Mosque in Deans Ave, Riccarton at around 1.40pm.[11] The Al Noor shooter livestreamed 16 minutes of his attack on Facebook Live, where he identified himself as a 28-year-old Australian white supremacist.[12][13] Early moments of the livestream showed the shooter driving his car toward the mosque and listening to a Serbian language song celebrating Radovan Karadžić, who was found guilty of genocide against Bosnian Muslims.[14] The guns used by the shooter were covered in white writing that named people from history as far back as the Crusades who had been in conflict with Muslims.[15][12] Three hundred to five hundred people may have been inside the mosque, attending Friday Prayer, at the time of the shooting.[16] A neighbour of the mosque told reporters that he witnessed the shooter flee the mosque and drop what appeared to be a firearm in the driveway while he fled.[17]

Linwood Islamic Centre
A second shooter attacked the Linwood Islamic Centre.[18][19] One congregant was reported to have returned fire.[20] Police confirmed that it was "a multiple, simultaneous attack".[21]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christchurch_mosque_shootings#cite_note-21

Two shooters apparently.
 
Jun 7, 2013
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Yeah, while the rest of the world condemn shooting kids in the head and think that post is vile...surprise surprise, the resident Holocaust denier, myopic racist with the political insight of an 11 year old posts it up like it's some slam dunk of logic.

What a repugnant waste of skin you are.
Cunts lower than a snakes belly, this is shocking even by his standards, anyone who’s reaction isn’t disgust is a grade A twat
 

Jack

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But understanding this and being able to see parallel "what aboutism" in attacks from hugely different ideologies requires a grasp of nuance and common sense.

So it's no surprise that you missed it with your simplistic, childish grasp of all issues. Tell us all again how only 300,000 Jews died in the Holocaust you dumb fuck.
I think it probably comes from a racist, supremacist mentality that "our" reaction is different to "their" reaction. The reality is though, we're all the same and the same tribal mentality that leads people to commit revenge attacks was never going to stay with one community, it was in us too.

This has been my worry for a while now. You can never accept these attacks as being the norm and I hated the statement from Sadiq Khan about it being part and parcel of living in a major city, that's too accepting. However, these attacks can cause a domino effect that perpetuates violence and turns the place of war from the middle east to our streets. There was always going to white supremacist attacks at some point, just like there'll likely be attacks from Shia Muslims, potentially Jews or Hindus too. The initial attacks are bad enough and we should never have a mentality of getting used to them but I think when you do, it creates an anger that will result in revenge attacks and that's a whole new messy battle that'll be fought out on our streets at the expense of innocent lives.

There's no greater or lesser crime. It's all horrific and indefensible, no matter who is committing it. Murder is never, ever the answer and fuck anyone who thinks it can be defended.
 
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Cunts lower than a snakes belly, this is shocking even by his standards, anyone who’s reaction isn’t disgust is a grade A twat

ahh yeah the limbic system isnt going to solve this one.

Of course im disgusted, i think it lowers us to that level but its not like today in the UK we dont have two seperate armed muslim incidents.
 

Dazl1212

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I think it probably comes from a racist, supremacist mentality that "our" reaction is different to "their" reaction. The reality is though, we're all the same and the same tribal mentality that leads people to commit revenge attacks was never going to stay with one community, it was in us too.

This has been my worry for a while now. You can never accept these attacks as being the norm and I hated the statement from Sadiq Khan about it being part and parcel of living in a major city, that's too accepting. However, these attacks can cause a domino effect that perpetuates violence and turns the place of war from the middle east to our streets. There was always going to white supremacist attacks at some point, just like there'll likely be attacks from Shia Muslims, potentially Jews or Hindus too. The initial attacks are bad enough and we should never have a mentality of getting used to them but I think when you do, it creates an anger that will result in revenge attacks and that's a whole new messy battle that'll be fought out on our streets at the expense of innocent lives.

There's no greater or lesser crime. It's all horrific and indefensible, no matter who is committing it. Murder is never, ever the answer and fuck anyone who thinks it can be defended.
Well said, the fall out from this will likely result in some kind of revenge attack, then there'll be a revenge attack to that one and so on...
 

kf3

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the killer's own ramblings said that he did it for 'a thousand years of muslim crimes in europe and shit(paraphrasing)', not just immigration today.