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Yesterday, sixty years ago, Buddy Holly, Richie Valens and "The Big Bopper" were killed in a plane crash in the USA. Regards Mervyn The Gee
 

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Ducking and diving Don King will never alter. The only consideration for King when he signs someone. is how much he and his family can con them. Just ask Tim Witherspoon . Regards Mervyn The Gee
 
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What a pathetic response from "Big Joe" to Askins retirement. I quote" I was going to send you to the cemetery". There are enough people out there who would like boxing banned, and Dumbos like "Big Joe" certainly help them with comments like that. Boxing is a contest between two opponents and the object is for one of them to win, not try and send the other to the cemetery Regards Mervyn The Gee.
 
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What a pathetic response from "Big Joe" to Askins retirement. I quote" I was going to send you to the cemetery". There are enough people out there who would like boxing banned, and Dumbos like "Big Joe" certainly help them with comments like that. Boxing is a contest between two opponents and the object is for one of them to win, not try and send the other to the cemetery Regards Mervyn The Gee.
As a fan of Big Joe, I have to agree. I can understand the frustration when he has struggled to get a meaningful fight. And the money already spent for the Askin bout. But he could have been much more diplomatic in his response.
 
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@dkos, as a fan of "Big Joe"s", perhaps you can contact him and ask him to apologize to Askins for his comments. Regards Mervyn the gee
 

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I am halfway through reading "The Boy who followed his Father into Auschwitz" . A truly amazing book, all the morons who say the Holocaust never happened should be forced to read it. A father and son are arrested in Vienna and are sent eventually to Auschwitz. Unbelievably both survived. As I read the book I ask myself how a nation like Germany could murder over Six million Jews and millions of Mental, Gay, and Political prisoners. Regards Mervyn The Gee
 
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@dkos, I see that "Big Joe" is backward in coming forward to apologize, does not really surprise me. Just glad that there are not too many like him in the sport. Regards Mervyn The Gee
 

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Spent the afternoon watching International Rugby. two decent matches. Ireland outlasted the "Jocks" to win. A second string Welsh side struggled at times against Italy, but ended up winning fairly comfortably. I don"t think there is any boxing on TV tonight, but boxing on Box Nation tomorrow at 10PM. Regards Mervyn The Gee
 

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I have been to Auschwitz many times. I still have tears in my eyes when I see all the Childrens shoes piled up, many hundreds of thousands murdered. The last time as I was leaving the camp, I put one foot inside the gate and the other one outside, Iwas able to leave this death camp, but around a million people were murdered within it"s walls. Regards Mervyn The Gee
 

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Another great issue of Boxing News. Matt Christie, the Editor, writes about the effort to introduce a Residential Homefor Ex-Boxers. Inside are Two articles on boxers who end up being"Skint" at the end of their careers.The first mentioned is Rocky Lockridge, a former double World Champ , he died this week, living on the streets of Camden, New Jersey, he was just 60 years old. also mentioned was our own Bunny Sterling, a former British, Commonwealth and European Champion, he died last November aged 70years. he died of Dementia and was also "Skint". Why do so many boxers end up in this situation? Lockridge must have earned many millions of dollars, Sterling obviously not in the same league money wise. . It appears that this happens to many, many boxers, but only occasionally do you read of other sportsmen/women in for arguments sake in Football , ending up "Skint".. Regards Mervyn the Gee
 
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Another great issue of Boxing News. Matt Christie, the Editor, writes about the effort to introduce a Residential Homefor Ex-Boxers. Inside are Two articles on boxers who end up being"Skint" at the end of their careers.The first mentioned is Rocky Lockridge, a former double World Champ , he died this week, living on the streets of Camden, New Jersey, he was just 60 years old. also mentioned was our own Bunny Sterling, a former British, Commonwealth and European Champion, he died last November aged 70years. he died of Dementia and was also "Skint". Why do so many boxers end up in this situation? Lockridge must have earned many millions of dollars, Sterling obviously not in the same league money wise. . It appears that this happens to many, many boxers, but only occasionally do you read of other sportsmen/women in for arguments sake in Football , ending up "Skint".. Regards Mervyn the Gee
Guys like Sterling you can kind of understand as wouldn't of been on big purses.You can add as well working class lads,young in their prime with decent lump sum payments a few times a year who will often think they will never get old and make the correct provisions for their futures.

Sadly most fighters especially of yesteryear were on one sided management or promotional contracts as you know for the likes of Joe Louis to end up as a meet and greet guy outside a casino is a national shame as far as the USA was concerned imo.

Boxed exhibitions and raised money for the war effort only to be hit by the IRS was disgraceful.

Others as you know like Sugar Ray Robinson had massive entourages and they all lived off his earnings and he himself ended up 'potless'.

Some do very well and invest for their retirement out of the ring but percentage wise in my experience most don't, they also as you agree fight on well past their prime and we know what health issues come with going on too long.

With the football world they do of course have the PFA which has helped out countless ex-pro's that didn't manage their earnings well.

Boxers of course have no union and as I always go back to it is a sport where you do need to protect yourself at all times, inside and outside of the ring.

It is a sad story that will play out again and again until young fighters are advised better and made to understand that the for the few that make life changing money are on a small percentage compared to even your average footballer today.
 
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@Makingweight, great to hear your reply. I nearly cried when I went to Las Vegas and saw the great Joe Louis, shaking hands with people outside a Casino. Joe boxed an exhibition at Torquay football ground during the second world war, by all accounts he was illiterate and taken for a ride by his entourage. As you say some boxers look after their cash, Calzaghe I am sure is one of them. I hope that eventually this bill will go through, but nobody should be begging for the cash, there are enough fighters and the WBA, WBC , IBF, and WBO to be able to have enough and more to get this up and running. Regards Mervyn The Gee
 
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@Makingweight, great to hear your reply. I nearly cried when I went to Las Vegas and saw the great Joe Louis, shaking hands with people outside a Casino. Joe boxed an exhibition at Torquay football ground during the second world war, by all accounts he was illiterate and taken for a ride by his entourage. As you say some boxers look after their cash, Calzaghe I am sure is one of them. I hope that eventually this bill will go through, but nobody should be begging for the cash, there are enough fighters and the WBA, WBC , IBF, and WBO to be able to have enough and more to get this up and running. Regards Mervyn The Gee
I love boxing as much as you do and has been a big part of all my life since I can remember I am middle-aged and like yourself have met a fair few boxers and know people involved in boxing,

If you go into boxing without being a stellar amateur,Olympic medalist or even a standout Commonwealth gold or silver one and not signed to a major promoter,you should be realistic boxing unless in that top 3 percent you will have to be outstanding to make life changing money.

Fighting your way out of poverty was certainly something we know many have tried to do and those that have done many often sadly go full circle and end up back where they started.

Boxing has changed many,many lives for the better but any young person thinking of turning pro to make your fortune be realistic and have a plan b,use boxing professionally to open doors like personal training etc as for many financially it won't be as lucrative as you WILL be told it is,just my two pennies worth.
 
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I love boxing as much as you do and has been a big part of all my life since I can remember I am middle-aged and like yourself have met a fair few boxers and know people involved in boxing,

If you go into boxing without being a stellar amateur,Olympic medalist or even a standout Commonwealth gold or silver one and not signed to a major promoter,you should be realistic boxing unless in that top 3 percent you will have to be outstanding to make life changing money.

Fighting your way out of poverty was certainly something we know many have tried to do and those that have done many often sadly go full circle and end up back where they started.

Boxing has changed many,many lives for the better but any young person thinking of turning pro to make your fortune be realistic and have a plan b,use boxing professionally to open doors like personal training etc as for many financially it won't be as lucrative as you WILL be told it is,just my two pennies worth.
Interesting discussion between yourself and Mervyn MW. He makes a good point about the difference between retired footballers and boxers I think, where more boxers finish up with nothing. Ive a few ideas about that but don't really want to go into it, but lets just say I thin k they have more unscrupulous characters around them for whatever reason.
These days lots of fighters seem to want to use boxing as their only means of making money. If they're not top notch I think thats a bad policy. Jiom Watt for example was still working right up to the time he won his world title.
You make a good point about personal training being a good means of making a life after boxing. I would imagine ANY half decent pro boxer with a fair personality could do this. And its pretty lucrative. At the gym I go to much lesser trainers, with no name and less knowledge of fitness than such a boxer, make 20 pounds an hour. In a varied working career I have never made the equivalent of that in my life. Id like all boxers to do something like this as it would probably benefit all.
 
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Interesting discussion between yourself and Mervyn MW. He makes a good point about the difference between retired footballers and boxers I think, where more boxers finish up with nothing. Ive a few ideas about that but don't really want to go into it, but lets just say I thin k they have more unscrupulous characters around them for whatever reason.
These days lots of fighters seem to want to use boxing as their only means of making money. If they're not top notch I think thats a bad policy. Jiom Watt for example was still working right up to the time he won his world title.
You make a good point about personal training being a good means of making a life after boxing. I would imagine ANY half decent pro boxer with a fair personality could do this. And its pretty lucrative. At the gym I go to much lesser trainers, with no name and less knowledge of fitness than such a boxer, make 20 pounds an hour. In a varied working career I have never made the equivalent of that in my life. Id like all boxers to do something like this as it would probably benefit all.
Being a full time pro boxer on the way up without a major promoter behind you it is a real step into a world where you get given nothing even getting fights you are given no favours.That is before we start talking about the financials.

I would advocate any young fighter to make boxing WORK for you and PT is an avenue where you can supplement ring earnings especially between fights when you are ticking over it's an avenue I am surprised more domestic level guys don't explore,something Boxfan I would encourage active pro's to explore to help pay the bills.

Training full time 2 to 3 sessions a day without sponsors behind you let alone a decent team it can become very draining chasing fights selling tickets it can and sometimes is glamorous for the fighters but mainly only for those watching on TV.

The reality is apart from maybe the hardcore fight fans that understand a bit about the game on here and other forums,social media etc the casual watcher would be surprised how little some fighters actually make from boxing.
 
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It would appear that at long last Eubank Jr as got rid of his father from the corner , although he is still on the "Team". I have always rated Jr and I think he will win, possibly by stoppage. Looking forward to it. Regards Mervyn The Gee
 
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It would appear that at long last Eubank Jr as got rid of his father from the corner , although he is still on the "Team". I have always rated Jr and I think he will win, possibly by stoppage. Looking forward to it. Regards Mervyn The Gee
I actually suspected that as I didn't see "English" at all at his last fight. Too busy locking up US villains possibly. But in todays paper there was a hint that he might be in the corner Saturday,backing up the youngish Mexican/American he's recently set on. So him as chief second,Ronnie Davies as cut man and English with the bucket??