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lets not get too excited.......................twas just the Fish,eh?

that said,the run looked like a real NFL run game.....................old school even......................did like

the D needs a bigger test tho the secondary should be fine
I think they obviously lose in week 2, but Bill is coaching them up. I think you could see the receiving core open up even more things for Cam, throughout the season.
 
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I think that the Seahawks need to run to win.......................passing on the Pats might be less easy than on the Falcons,eh?

should be an interesting game.....................
Maybe, but Wilson is playing a good kind of angry. He wants that MVP, and he wants to show that he can win a SB as the primary weapon. He's looking like he might just be able to pull that off, especially when Seattle picks up Antonio Brown later in the season.

I'm just so happy for Cam. Buffalo looks pretty good, so I'm not sure how it'll all stack up, but if he can lead the Pats to another division win, then I think BB has found his new QB, and the cap space they have next year will put them back in contention. Sickening when you think about it.
 
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Maybe, but Wilson is playing a good kind of angry. He wants that MVP, and he wants to show that he can win a SB as the primary weapon. He's looking like he might just be able to pull that off, especially when Seattle picks up Antonio Brown later in the season.

I'm just so happy for Cam. Buffalo looks pretty good, so I'm not sure how it'll all stack up, but if he can lead the Pats to another division win, then I think BB has found his new QB, and the cap space they have next year will put them back in contention. Sickening when you think about it.
cam aint a long term solution....................he is,what,ten years in? he has a couple of years left,.especially given his style...........

nice to see him HEALTHY tho

wilson gonna need more than wilson to get to the top of that hill,eh?

the PROBLEM here is if we DONT tank,we are going to get shit in the draft......................again..........................

been DECADES of picking last now......................we could use some big picks or even what we could trade those picks for,eh?
 
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cam aint a long term solution....................he is,what,ten years in? he has a couple of years left,.especially given his style...........

nice to see him HEALTHY tho

wilson gonna need more than wilson to get to the top of that hill,eh?

the PROBLEM here is if we DONT tank,we are going to get shit in the draft......................again..........................

been DECADES of picking last now......................we could use some big picks or even what we could trade those picks for,eh?
Been decades of winning superbowls. Bill isn't especially good at the draft. He's good at free agency. Let him keep doing that. People can keep doubting Cam, but he's a giant with a rocket. If the coaching staff can work to keep him efficient, and can give him receivers, he isn't going to need to run. Right now he has to be the whole offense until he has people to throw to. He never had much of a receiving core in Carolina either, because they could get away with him being the whole offense.

Bill gets along with him great too, and it doesn't sound like it is just for the cameras. I think you might end up surprised, if they can keep him from getting beaten up, and if he's sneaking fish into his diet while pretending to stay strict vegan. That full on vegan shit I believe is a part of his problem.
 
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Been decades of winning superbowls. Bill isn't especially good at the draft. He's good at free agency. Let him keep doing that. People can keep doubting Cam, but he's a giant with a rocket. If the coaching staff can work to keep him efficient, and can give him receivers, he isn't going to need to run. Right now he has to be the whole offense until he has people to throw to. He never had much of a receiving core in Carolina either, because they could get away with him being the whole offense.

Bill gets along with him great too, and it doesn't sound like it is just for the cameras. I think you might end up surprised, if they can keep him from getting beaten up, and if he's sneaking fish into his diet while pretending to stay strict vegan. That full on vegan shit I believe is a part of his problem.
was unaware he was a vegan

he needs to eat him some meat if he is going to hang for a full season in the cold and not get beat up

I KNOW he is a physical freak,but his style is the same style thats broken down a lot of guys like him....................though he DOES throw better than a fair few of em............

ya,free agency is fine but it was a draft pick that set us on the road to winning............................Bledsoe back in the day.................

I think our receivers are suspect,unless,like I said,Harry has a breakthrough and becomes what they hoped he would.................that alone would open shit up and take pressure off Cam and the running game

Sony and White are a legit duo and Rex is a great third man in the position.....................and holy fuck did you see the 5'6" dude Taylor run?

shit was amazing :lol:


Bill gonna pound em till they put everyone in the box and then throw............................all year I imagine

not a lot of teams set up to deal with that shit so maybe it works?
 
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was unaware he was a vegan

he needs to eat him some meat if he is going to hang for a full season in the cold and not get beat up

I KNOW he is a physical freak,but his style is the same style thats broken down a lot of guys like him....................though he DOES throw better than a fair few of em............

ya,free agency is fine but it was a draft pick that set us on the road to winning............................Bledsoe back in the day.................

I think our receivers are suspect,unless,like I said,Harry has a breakthrough and becomes what they hoped he would.................that alone would open shit up and take pressure off Cam and the running game

Sony and White are a legit duo and Rex is a great third man in the position.....................and holy fuck did you see the 5'6" dude Taylor run?

shit was amazing :lol:


Bill gonna pound em till they put everyone in the box and then throw............................all year I imagine

not a lot of teams set up to deal with that shit so maybe it works?
Yep. His best season was as a pescatarian I believe. Though they probably have him on some designer juice that don't give a fuck. He definitely looks the best shape we've seen him in in some time.

The receiving core already seems better able to get open than last year. Looked a little more vintage Pats, where each pass looks unbelievably open and my football knowledge doesn't allow me to explain it.

No idea what is going to happen. It's gone be a wild season for a lot of teams?
 

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Yep. His best season was as a pescatarian I believe. Though they probably have him on some designer juice that don't give a fuck. He definitely looks the best shape we've seen him in in some time.

The receiving core already seems better able to get open than last year. Looked a little more vintage Pats, where each pass looks unbelievably open and my football knowledge doesn't allow me to explain it.

No idea what is going to happen. It's gone be a wild season for a lot of teams?
I think the reason anybody got open was the fact the fins had to pack the box after getting run over

you put that many guys up front and even BB could get open

its all going to hinge on being able to keep running.............and that will make play action murderous with the backs and receivers they do have.............

like 90% of all plays they ran sun were an actual run or play action.................
 

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cam aint a long term solution....................he is,what,ten years in? he has a couple of years left,.especially given his style...........

nice to see him HEALTHY tho

wilson gonna need more than wilson to get to the top of that hill,eh?

the PROBLEM here is if we DONT tank,we are going to get shit in the draft......................again..........................

been DECADES of picking last now......................we could use some big picks or even what we could trade those picks for,eh
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I've always disagreed with the idea of tanking for higher draft picks. Losing doesn't beget winning, WINNING begets winning! Also, top picks with high price tags tend not to be driven (a la Baker Mayfield, Drew Bledsoe, Ryan Leaf).

DECADES of picking last means decades of finishing FIRST.

Cam's had a couple years off (for all intents and purposes), something to prove, and he's essentially playing for minimum wage, in need of earning the big bucks again after spending 86 humbling nights of the off season in the NFL wilderness w/out a contract.

Once again, "In Bill We Trust!" Dude can build a nuclear blast shelter out of shit with his knowledge of team chemistry. From 2001 to 2019, he generated winning seasons while replacing EVERYBODY.

Historically, I want that minimum nine wins to advance Bill's legacy with the Pats, tying him with Landry and the 1966-1985 Cowboys at 20 straight winning seasons. If they can then match or surpass nine wins in 2021, nobody here will live to see that record be broken. (Seattle is next with eight consecutive winning seasons among active streaks, and they'll certainly get to nine for 2020, but Pete Carroll's the oldest HC in the NFL. The Seahawks are not getting to 22 straight winning campaigns, and even if they do, we don't know how far Bill might push the Pats beyond 21 straight winning seasons beyond 2021.)
 
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I think they obviously lose in week 2, but Bill is coaching them up. I think you could see the receiving core open up even more things for Cam, throughout the season.
Bill and Pete are chess masters not likely to give that much away. Seattle should win, but this is likely to be a simple run based game plan for both teams, as they match execution and test their own mechanisms. Each of these teams can go into the other's house and win.

Unlike Cam though, Russ is already an ATG heading for Canton. Newton's very best might not be a match for what Wilson did yesterday.
 
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Bill and Pete are chess masters not likely to give that much away. Seattle should win, but this is likely to be a simple run based game plan for both teams, as they match execution and test their own mechanisms. Each of these teams can go into the other's house and win.

Unlike Cam though, Russ is already an ATG heading for Canton. Newton's very best might not be a match for what Wilson did yesterday.
interesting stat yesterday

last time the pats had an opening day without Tommy on the roster Pete was the coach :lol:


always thougth he got a raw deal in NE.........................but it worked out OK I guess :conf
 
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He was considered one of the best young QBs in 2017 and most of 2018, but his lackluster performances in the SB and the following year damaged his rep. Tonight, he looked back to his '17/early '18 form.




Could be worse... you could've gotten Dak. :lol:

Epic avatar BTW. :lol::rofl
Goff's game reminds me of Kurt warners. Isn't mobile or flashing but throws the dig route extremely well. If you can get pressure to him hes in trouble because a 15 yard cross takes time to develop. He also really seems to have issues in weather, I wonder if he has small hands or something like that
 
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Hmmmmmm again. :think1


‘Sunday Night Football’ Season Debut Ratings Fall From 2019 As LA Rams Score Hometown Win Over Cowboys

SoFi Stadium was devoid of fans on last night’s Sunday Night Football due to the coronavirus pandemic, but full of victory for the hometown Los Angeles Rams. Sadly, that winning feeling wasn’t reflected in the ratings for NBC and the NFL in SNF‘s season opener.

The team’s first game at its sparkling new $5 billion digs saw the Rams take down the Dallas Cowboys 20-17 in a grinding battle in which Rams running back Malcolm Brown score two touchdowns. Fighting right to the end against that wall of the Rams’ defense in a rough and tumble showdown, the Cowboys early on also saw starting linebacker Leighton Vander Esch exit with a collarbone injury. All in all, not a good start for Mike McCarthey’s first game as the Cowboys’ coach.

With all that on-field action, and coming off disappointing ratings of the NFL season kickoff on September 10, the league and the Comcast-owned network were looking for a win themselves this football packed weekend.

Even with the usual ratings gold of Jerry Jones’ team on the field, the NFL and NBC didn’t get that win – at least not in the early numbers. Despite two teams with big national followings, SNF snared a 4.7 in early ratings among adults 18-49 and 14.81 million viewers last night.

In numbers certain to change, that’s a fall of 28% in the demo and a hard decline of 23% in sets of eyeballs from the early numbers of the the September 8, 2019 SNF season debut. While the early Nielsen data lacks West Coast numbers — kind of important when you have a team from the Los Angeles market in the mix — his result is going to be hard pill for the NFL and NBC to swallow.

To add further context, last year’s opener, a 33-3 pummeling of the Pittsburgh Steelers by then reigning Super Bowl champs the New England Patriots, went on to pull in an audience of 22.2 million on NBC, which was pretty much even with SNF’s 2018 season premiere. That 2019 figure inched up to 22.7 million when digital platform viewing was added in.

At this point, last night’s SNF is down nearly 10% in both the key demo and in viewers from the early results of the the Kansas City Chiefs’ win over the Houston Texans in the league’s season opener Thursday night.

Down double digits from its 2019 equivalent, that primetime game at Arrowhead Stadium did have a scattering of fans (just over 17,000 in a venue built for more than 76,000) and strong social justice and anti-racism messages from the league and players – which was tragically booed by said fans. In what may be indicative of where the Roger Goodell-led NFL is already drifting, last night’s SNF was much more subdued in its stance over such issues and saw only a few players take a knee during the national anthem.
 
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interesting stat yesterday

last time the pats had an opening day without Tommy on the roster Pete was the coach :lol:


always thought he got a raw deal in NE.........................but it worked out OK I guess :conf
Bob Kraft has admitted it was a raw deal for Carroll, but it did work out for all parties involved.

Pete kept the defensive core of the team intact for their first three SB titles, and even beat Marino and the Fins in the 1997 playoffs w/out Curtis Martin (then got eliminated by just 7-6 in Pittsburgh with an absent Martin and injured Ben Coates). Losing Martin to injury in 1997, then Bledsoe for the playoffs in 1998 may have cots them a post Parcells SB berth. Kraft's since conceded he didn't give Carroll the power Pete should've had there.

Carroll did leave New England with two playoff berths and what remains the second highest winning percentage in franchise history, higher than Mike Holovak, Chuck Fairbanks, Ron Meyer, Raymond Berry or Bill Parcells. (Berry remains the only other HC in Pats history with a winning playoff record at 3-2, still revered in Foxborough for 1985 and effusively greeted and honored to the team by Belichick whenever Raymond turns up at practice there.)
 
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Bob Kraft has admitted it was a raw deal for Carroll, but it did work out for all parties involved.

Pete kept the defensive core of the team intact for their first three SB titles, and even beat Marino and the Fins in the 1997 playoffs w/out Curtis Martin (then got eliminated by just 7-6 in Pittsburgh with an absent Martin and injured Ben Coates). Losing Martin to injury in 1997, then Bledsoe for the playoffs in 1998 may have cots them a post Parcells SB berth. Kraft's since conceded he didn't give Carroll the power Pete should've had there.

Carroll did leave New England with two playoff berths and what remains the second highest winning percentage in franchise history, higher than Mike Holovak, Chuck Fairbanks, Ron Meyer, Raymond Berry or Bill Parcells. (Berry remains the only other HC in Pats history with a winning playoff record at 3-2, still revered in Foxborough for 1985 and effusively greeted and honored to the team by Belichick whenever Raymond turns up at practice there.)
martin and coates were beasts...................

good times :cheers
 
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Well, it looks like the Giants are still the Giants.

Danny Dimes engineered a 19-play, roughly 10 minute drive to get into the Steelers red zone and potentially score a go-ahead TD, only to blow it all with a pick in the endzone.
 

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Denver has done a better job at moving the ball IMO, but a fumble in their own red zone and a goal-line stand by the Titans are keeping it tied.