Ok, not trying to troll..legit question....sugar ray leonard and his "abuser"....

Johnstown

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the trainer who went down on him in the car....does anyone know who that was?
 
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I don't.....but have the feeling it was some well-known trainer.Leonard mentioned that the same thing happened to some other boxers under his direction.
 

Johnstown

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I don't.....but have the feeling it was some well-known trainer.Leonard mentioned that the same thing happened to some other boxers under his direction.
you could likely narrow it down to a small group by taking the time around when it happened and figuring out who all was working with Sugar Ray and who the official trainers were for events he went to.
 
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you could likely narrow it down to a small group by taking the time around when it happened and figuring out who all was working with Sugar Ray and who the official trainers were for events he went to.
That's true, and I have a feeling some of his famous co-Olympians probably know, but won't say anything.Leon Spinks probably knows.
 

Johnstown

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Pat Nappi and Tom Johnson were the two main coaches....and Nappi was involved in boxing in New York State...but it could have been others of course....
 
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He was about 19 years old and already had a kid at the time of the car thing. How traumatic would that really be for a 19 year old? I mean if a guy tried to fondle you at 19 would you be 'haunted' by it for years or would you just tell him to fuck off and get over it?

The whole abuse thing just sounded like bollocks to sell his book.
 

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He was about 19 years old and already had a kid at the time of the car thing. How traumatic would that really be for a 19 year old? I mean if a guy tried to fondle you at 19 would you be 'haunted' by it for years or would you just tell him to fuck off and get over it?

The whole abuse thing just sounded like bollocks to sell his book.
was he actually 19? if that's true than fuck Sugar Ray....he just felt regret that he let a dude wrap his lips around his cock....
 

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It was just a treat, wasn´t it ? No abuse happened, the guy just flirted with him, apparently......
 

techks

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It was just a treat, wasn´t it ? No abuse happened, the guy just flirted with him, apparently......
A guy putting their mouth around another man's cock is a bit more than "just flirting". SRL could've lied about the situation but who knows.
 

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Don't know why he would want to lie about that [MENTION=2134]techks[/MENTION] . To be honest, if he was 19 or however old he was he should have beat the shit out of his trainer..
 

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A guy putting their mouth around another man's cock is a bit more than "just flirting". SRL could've lied about the situation but who knows.
Oh :lol: I didn´t know it was like that......well, yeah, it´s more than jus flirting..
 

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Don't know why he would want to lie about that [MENTION=2134]techks[/MENTION] . To be honest, if he was 19 or however old he was he should have beat the shit out of his trainer..
That's the part I'm having trouble swallowing(I'm not gay lol). I'm thinking he let him do that but none of us can say accurately what happened except SRL, the trainer, and maybe a few other boxers of that trainer. Like, are you really gonna wait until and man sucks you off before running away? Can understand if he slept and woke up in the worse way imaginable but tbf I didnt see the excerpt.
 

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Oh :lol: I didn´t know it was like that......well, yeah, it´s more than jus flirting..
"Before I knew it, he had unzipped my pants and put his hand, then mouth, on an area that has haunted me for life. I didn't scream. I didn't look at him. I just opened the door and ran."
 

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apparently an incident occurred when he was 15 when the coach had him take a bath with another fighter....but it says the car incident happened "several years later" so that sounds like 19.... http://necolebitchie.com/2011/05/17/boxer-surgar-ray-leonard-describes-being-molested-by-trainer/

Leonard writes that when the coach accompanied him as a 15-year-old and another young fighter to a boxing event in Utica, N.Y., in 1971, he had the teenagers take a bath in a tub of hot water and Epsom salts while he sat on the other side of the bathroom. They suspected “something a bit inappropriate” was occurring but did not want to question a strong male authority figure.

Several years later, Leonard describes sitting in a car in a deserted parking lot across from a recreation center, listening intently as the same coach, said to be in his late 40s, explained how much a gold medal at the 1976 Olympics would mean to his future.

He was flattered, filled with hope, as any young athlete would be. But he writes: “Before I knew it, he had unzipped my pants and put his hand, then mouth, on an area that has haunted me for life. I didn’t scream. I didn’t look at him. I just opened the door and ran.”


Read more: Necole Bitchie.com: Boxer Sugar Ray Leonard Describes Being Molested By Trainer http://necolebitchie.com/2011/05/17/boxer-surgar-ray-leonard-describes-being-molested-by-trainer/#ixzz2aI5AVJn9

I heard Ray say in a past interview that the coach is dead now....in the above article it says that the coach was in his 40s at the time...although Pat Nappi would have been in his 50s than.
 
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He was about 19 years old and already had a kid at the time of the car thing. How traumatic would that really be for a 19 year old? I mean if a guy tried to fondle you at 19 would you be 'haunted' by it for years or would you just tell him to fuck off and get over it?

The whole abuse thing just sounded like bollocks to sell his book.
At age 18/19 you're 100% able to determine whether or not you want someone touching you sexually especially when you're a world class boxer. SRL claiming he was "molested" is an insult to actual children and victims. Lost respect for him with that.
 
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Leonard would have been a young man by the time of the second "incident." I think he probably does feel embarrasment/shame that he allowed another man to even get that far in the first place, so perhaps him construing it as being a form of sexual abuse is a way of him feeling less guilty about the whole thing.