P4P Lists - Do they have any value?

Lilo

Prize prick!!
Jun 4, 2012
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The problem with most p4p lists is that most of them actually look like its a troll

Spence is not top 5 p4p I dont know why people are rushing to put him so high, he has 2 big rivals in his division (Thurman and Crawford) if he beats 1 of them he deserves to go top 5, if he beats both top 3 but people want him to be high so bad right now
Yeah, some have him above Usyk - you know the guy who cleaned out a deep, deep division by beating pretty much everyone of them away from home.
 
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His top 12 to save people a click:

  1. Gennady Golovkin
  2. Vasyl Lomachenko
  3. Oleksandr Usyk
  4. Srisaket Sor Rungvisai
  5. Terence Crawford
  6. Naoya Inoue
  7. Errol Spence Jr.
  8. Tyson Fury
  9. Manny Pacquiao
  10. Josh Warrington
  11. Sergey Kovalev
  12. Juan Francisco Estrada
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:lol: How the fuck can anyone justify having GGG at number 1? His last two bouts were a draw and a loss and even if you thought he won, he didn't dominate. Where the fuck is Canelo? What on earth is Warrington doing in there? Pac in top ten?

Pathetic.
 
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I quite like to read the arguments for a fighter's position but I've never been arsed to maintain a list, it's always seemed pretty pointless.
 
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I quite like to read the arguments for a fighter's position but I've never been arsed to maintain a list, it's always seemed pretty pointless.
Yep. They're a fun thing to discuss, and their subjective nature can throw up some wild results for us to laugh at (like in this thread), but that's about it.
 
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TheBoxingMadMan

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World in Sport P4P list for April 2019.

1 ▬ Terence Crawford (USA) | 34-0-0
Notable Wins: Yuriorkis Gamboa, Viktor Postol, Julius Indongo, Jeff Horn
2 ▬ Vasyl Lomachenko (UKR) | 12-1-0
Notable Wins: Gary Russell Jr., Nicholas Walters, Guillermo Rigondeaux, Jorge Linares
3 ▬ Saul Alvarez (MEX) | 50-1-2
Notable Wins: Austin Trout, Erislandy Lara, Miguel Cotto, Gennady Golovkin
4 ▲ Oleksandr Usyk (UKR) | 16-0-0
Notable Wins: Krzysztof Glowacki, Mairis Briedis, Murat Gassiev, Tony Bellew
5 ▲ Gennady Golovkin (KAZ) | 38-1-1
Notable Wins: Martin Murray, David Lemieux, Kell Brook, Daniel Jacobs
6 ▼ Mikey Garcia* (USA) | 39-0-0
Notable Wins: Orlando Salido, Adrien Broner, Sergey Lipinets, Robert Easter Jr.
7 ▲ Errol Spence Jr.* (USA) | 24-0-0
Notable Wins: Chris Algieri, Kell Brook, Lamont Peterson, Mikey Garcia
8 ▼ Naoya Inoue (JPN) | 17-0-0
Notable Wins: Omar Narvaez, Kohei Kono, Jamie McDonnell, Juan Carlos Payano
9 ▼ Leo Santa Cruz (MEX) | 35-1-1
Notable Wins: Abner Mares (x2), Kiko Martinez, Carl Frampton
10 ▼ Srisaket Sor Rungvisai (THA) | 47-4-1
Notable Wins: Roman Gonzalez (x2), Juan Francisco Estrada, Iran Diaz


https://worldinsport.com/top-20-p4p-boxers-april-2019/
 
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World in Sport P4P list for April 2019.

1 ▬ Terence Crawford (USA) | 34-0-0
Notable Wins: Yuriorkis Gamboa, Viktor Postol, Julius Indongo, Jeff Horn
2 ▬ Vasyl Lomachenko (UKR) | 12-1-0
Notable Wins: Gary Russell Jr., Nicholas Walters, Guillermo Rigondeaux, Jorge Linares
3 ▬ Saul Alvarez (MEX) | 50-1-2
Notable Wins: Austin Trout, Erislandy Lara, Miguel Cotto, Gennady Golovkin
4 ▲ Oleksandr Usyk (UKR) | 16-0-0
Notable Wins: Krzysztof Glowacki, Mairis Briedis, Murat Gassiev, Tony Bellew
5 ▲ Gennady Golovkin (KAZ) | 38-1-1
Notable Wins: Martin Murray, David Lemieux, Kell Brook, Daniel Jacobs
6 ▼ Mikey Garcia* (USA) | 39-0-0
Notable Wins: Orlando Salido, Adrien Broner, Sergey Lipinets, Robert Easter Jr.
7 ▲ Errol Spence Jr.* (USA) | 24-0-0
Notable Wins: Chris Algieri, Kell Brook, Lamont Peterson, Mikey Garcia
8 ▼ Naoya Inoue (JPN) | 17-0-0
Notable Wins: Omar Narvaez, Kohei Kono, Jamie McDonnell, Juan Carlos Payano
9 ▼ Leo Santa Cruz (MEX) | 35-1-1
Notable Wins: Abner Mares (x2), Kiko Martinez, Carl Frampton
10 ▼ Srisaket Sor Rungvisai (THA) | 47-4-1
Notable Wins: Roman Gonzalez (x2), Juan Francisco Estrada, Iran Diaz


https://worldinsport.com/top-20-p4p-boxers-april-2019/
That's by far the most respectable one yet. I don't agree with the order of the top 4, but at least it's the right top 4.
 
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Man, people do not give Usyk any respect. I think he should be consensus #1; although, I wouldn't argue with someone having Sor Rungvisai over him. I think that's the only one that deserves to be above him. I just don't think Crawford or Lomachenko should be in #1 at the moment. Usyk, Sor Rungvisai, and Canelo have better resumes.
 
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AntG

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Not really no, they were created as a bit of fun to compare fighters achievements across different weight classes but it's all just opinions. Ricky Hatton bored me to tears when in every interview he'd go on about P4P like it was an actual title.