'Period poverty'

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The cheap the best are 50p for 10. I can't see any reason why they can't be free.
How about someone has to make and package them, and that isn’t free, is it? There’s absolutely no excuse for any able bodied person in the western world to not have $2 a month to spend on these things. Go fish some cans out of the garbage and recycle them, FFS.
 
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We often see reports of 'period poverty' where women and girls can't even afford sanitary products, and this is usually followed by called to have the prices reduced. For those who do not really know, you can buy a box of 20 tampons for less than £2. I should know because I like to stick them up my ass.

But seriously, a box of twenty will last a woman for more than one period. So are we supposed to believe that there are people in the UK who can't even manage to scrape together less than 2 quid a month for these things? If they were that poor wouldn't they be wearing tattered fucking rags and eating shit out of bins? Are people just too fucking thick and irresponsible with money to properly plan for these things? Two fucking quid a month. Get a fucking grip. I'm sick of hearing this story and have no sympathy for the thick cunts who can't plan for this shit when they know it happens every fucking month. There's no one in the UK who isn't on the fucking street that can't scrape together two quid a month unless they are completely retarded.

Another attack on the poor. :bart
 
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Funny how paper gets a pass because it's for your arse.

As this only effects them, they have an issue. Somebody pass me a tissue.
 
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Funny how paper gets a pass because it's for your arse.

As this only effects them, they have an issue. Somebody pass me a tissue.
Kinda missing the point.

This is a requirement of gender. Toilet paper isn't (and you don't NEED to, technically).

I don't feel particularly strongly about this, btw, but tp isn't a valid comparison.
 
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Then they should take it up with God.

Funny thing is, these same women probably go to Ann Summers parties and pay a fortune for something else to stick up their twat.
 
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Kinda missing the point.

This is a requirement of gender. Toilet paper isn't (and you don't NEED to, technically).

I don't feel particularly strongly about this, btw, but tp isn't a valid comparison.
You don't need to use tampons either. Remember the brief "free bleeding" movement, because the patriarchy shamed women into using tampons etc? :lol:

Toilet paper is classed as part of personal hygiene, as are tampons, so it's certainly comparable, especially given that toilet paper is taxed at 20% and tampons at 5%. That means that only one of those "essential" items has any reduction to recognise its significance.

They should both be tax free, even though there are alternatives to both.
 
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I'm sure that vast majority of women can easily afford them but those on the poverty line who are having to use food banks then obviously money will be so tight that even the 50p for a pack of cheap tampons will be too much when they can't even afford to feed themselves.

Universal credit will likely have a lot to do with some people suffering from period poverty. Takes about 13 weeks to get universal credit so can you imagine being on benefits, they then introduce universal credit in your area and so you can no income for 13 weeks. How can you feed yourself, pay your bills, buy tampons.
 
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You don't need to use tampons either. Remember the brief "free bleeding" movement, because the patriarchy shamed women into using tampons etc? :lol:

Toilet paper is classed as part of personal hygiene, as are tampons, so it's certainly comparable, especially given that toilet paper is taxed at 20% and tampons at 5%. That means that only one of those "essential" items has any reduction to recognise its significance.

They should both be tax free, even though there are alternatives to both.
Disagree.

the difference is clearly that you only 'need' one of these dependent on your gender so that gender is at an automatic disadvantage. That's not the case with TP. I guess this is why there's a difference in tax. My daughter is fuckin' adamant that these come out of the general shopping budget and not her pocket money budget though.

I can't actually think of a male only product :think1

Anyway, like I said, not something i feel particularly strongly about.
 
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Disagree.

the difference is clearly that you only 'need' one of these dependent on your gender so that gender is at an automatic disadvantage. That's not the case with TP. I guess this is why there's a difference in tax. My daughter is fuckin' adamant that these come out of the general shopping budget and not her pocket money budget though.

I can't actually think of a male only product :think1

Anyway, like I said, not something i feel particularly strongly about.
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I've got the Level 8 bad boys ... just pish myself all day long, ahhh!
 
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Disagree.

the difference is clearly that you only 'need' one of these dependent on your gender so that gender is at an automatic disadvantage. That's not the case with TP. I guess this is why there's a difference in tax. My daughter is fuckin' adamant that these come out of the general shopping budget and not her pocket money budget though.

I can't actually think of a male only product :think1

Anyway, like I said, not something i feel particularly strongly about.
True, however you could roll that line out for all sorts. Bras are only something women need, so bras should be free. Numerous jobs require men to wear a suit and tie, almost no jobs require women to wear a suit. So men in many lines of work have to buy suits, ties etc just for work. The fact is that no woman NEEDS tampons you can use a cup. However, I agree that tampons should be tax free as I deem them an "essential" as much as anything outside of food, water, shelter etc.

But I deem toilet paper an essential too, and it's 20%. If you asked most of the most vocal campaigners on this whether they would prefer the removal of VAT on tampons or toilet paper, they'd choose tampons based purely on it being an issue they can feel is aimed at discriminating against women. Even though they'd save more money on toilet paper, the fact that men and women benefited from the tax removal would bug them.

And you will see the goalposts move. Tesco and some other places now swallow the tampon 5% VAT themselves, and have dropped their prices to what it would be if it were VAT free. This will become ubiquitous, or the VAT will be removed by the government. When that happens, the exact same people will begin demanding that tampons should be free entirely.

It's not the actual issue I have a disagreement with (like I said I agree they should be VAT free and I'd support free ones for women in poverty) it's the motive and mindset behind much of the campaigning, which is simply "Everything is against women" when it's nonsense.

It's why as more and more evidence of the "pay gap" being bollocks seeps out, it's already beginning to move to "Why women are not encouraged into certain lines of work that pay more" and "Why work that women traditionally choose is underpaid". It's pure victim mentality.

Bear in mind that the NHS spends vastly more on women's health initiatives and only two female specific cancers have national screening programs. But reduced VAT is a "uterus tax". :lol:
 
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True, however you could roll that line out for all sorts. Bras are only something women need, so bras should be free. Numerous jobs require men to wear a suit and tie, almost no jobs require women to wear a suit. So men in many lines of work have to buy suits, ties etc just for work. The fact is that no woman NEEDS tampons you can use a cup. However, I agree that tampons should be tax free as I deem them an "essential" as much as anything outside of food, water, shelter etc.

But I deem toilet paper an essential too, and it's 20%. If you asked most of the most vocal campaigners on this whether they would prefer the removal of VAT on tampons or toilet paper, they'd choose tampons based purely on it being an issue they can feel is aimed at discriminating against women. Even though they'd save more money on toilet paper, the fact that men and women benefited from the tax removal would bug them.

And you will see the goalposts move. Tesco and some other places now swallow the tampon 5% VAT themselves, and have dropped their prices to what it would be if it were VAT free. This will become ubiquitous, or the VAT will be removed by the government. When that happens, the exact same people will begin demanding that tampons should be free entirely.

It's not the actual issue I have a disagreement with (like I said I agree they should be VAT free and I'd support free ones for women in poverty) it's the motive and mindset behind much of the campaigning, which is simply "Everything is against women" when it's nonsense.

It's why as more and more evidence of the "pay gap" being bollocks seeps out, it's already beginning to move to "Why women are not encouraged into certain lines of work that pay more" and "Why work that women traditionally choose is underpaid". It's pure victim mentality.

Bear in mind that the NHS spends vastly more on women's health initiatives and only two female specific cancers have national screening programs. But reduced VAT is a "uterus tax". :lol:
FFS, Strike :lol:

I actually agree with just about all of that, man. I'm in no way weaponizing feminism here. I think the shirt and tie example is a bit of a stretch and are probably balanced out by things like tights and bras, if we really want to do that. I just think tampons are a bit of an outlier here and should maybe be accounted for as such. A cup would probably be more cost effective actually...but then the feminazis might LITERALLY weaponize them so I may want to put some more thought into that, actually :think1

It's like a lot of things, really. We find ourselves not making the correct decisions because of the cunts in society. Social welfare, ruined by cunts. Democracy, ruined by cunts. Legalizing drugs, ruined by cunts.
 
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FFS, Strike :lol:

I actually agree with just about all of that, man. I'm in no way weaponizing feminism here. I think the shirt and tie example is a bit of a stretch and are probably balanced out by things like tights and bras, if we really want to do that. I just think tampons are a bit of an outlier here and should maybe be accounted for as such. A cup would probably be more cost effective actually...but then the feminazis might LITERALLY weaponize them so I may want to put some more thought into that, actually :think1

It's like a lot of things, really. We find ourselves not making the correct decisions because of the cunts in society. Social welfare, ruined by cunts. Democracy, ruined by cunts. Legalizing drugs, ruined by cunts.
Yeah agreed. It is one of those things where it bugged me to see so much drivel being written and shared about an issue I actually agreed with. Yes, VAT should be removed from tampons. I fucking agreed,.

But you'd think it was some huge scandal and articles in national newspapers kept writing things like "While men's razors are tax free..." and it was driving me fucking insane. Razors are taxed at 20%. Fucking full time journalists writing for The Guardian and The Times could not muster up the independence of thought and effort to google tax exemptions and look at the government website.

It became so big that shit comedians like Russel Howard were doing whole segments on national TV about "men's razors and helicopters being tax free, but women being taxed for having a reproductive system". It is surreal and infuriating to see such lazy, bullshit peddled about. And even if razors were tax free, why was the word "men's" tagged on there? :lol: To insinuate that women's razors were taxed...pathetic stuff.

Then when you see hundreds marching about an issue that they heard about last week on Facebook, and arguing that female students were having to choose between eating and having tampons because of this "sexist tax" it was becoming Kafkaesque. Not one person on TV, not one journalist or presenter went "hang on...razors are taxed at 20% and while I agree that tampons should be tax exempt, how on earth could 5 to 9 pence per month be the difference between eating or not eating for anyone?"
 
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Yeah agreed. It is one of those things where it bugged me to see so much drivel being written and shared about an issue I actually agreed with. Yes, VAT should be removed from tampons. I fucking agreed,.

But you'd think it was some huge scandal and articles in national newspapers kept writing things like "While men's razors are tax free..." and it was driving me fucking insane. Razors are taxed at 20%. Fucking full time journalists writing for The Guardian and The Times could not muster up the independence of thought and effort to google tax exemptions and look at the government website.

It became so big that shit comedians like Russel Howard were doing whole segments on national TV about "men's razors and helicopters being tax free, but women being taxed for having a reproductive system". It is surreal and infuriating to see such lazy, bullshit peddled about. And even if razors were tax free, why was the word "men's" tagged on there? :lol: To insinuate that women's razors were taxed...pathetic stuff.

Then when you see hundreds marching about an issue that they heard about last week on Facebook, and arguing that female students were having to choose between eating and having tampons because of this "sexist tax" it was becoming Kafkaesque. Not one person on TV, not one journalist or presenter went "hang on...razors are taxed at 20% and while I agree that tampons should be tax exempt, how on earth could 5 to 9 pence per month be the difference between eating or not eating for anyone?"
I get it, man.

Thank fuck I'm not there so see that kinda shit.

Fortunately this will never be a problem here. Poor people are poor because they're shit at life so are basically left to fend for themselves and tax dollars are funneled into real priorities like corporate welfare and ridiculous military campaigns and budgets.
 
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