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mandela

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But I assume he would also train like that for every body part.

The fact we get injuries lifting like fairies and Platz never did further makes me believe in the genetic lottery thing, tbh. And well, the oil as well.

There's just no way I could train like that often. Impossible. And yeah like I said jokingly, but also seriously tbh, I wouldn't want to. Would suck any kind of enjoyment right out of it. It's the reason I'm not a professional athlete in absolute honesty, as soon as coaches made me want to vomit I didn't enjoy it anymore.
Aye, that's the only thing that stopped me anaw, tbh.

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Platz motivated me and I moved up to tentatively squatting 87.5kg for 5x5. Still no kneesplosions, which is always a bonus.
This is one thing I don't do.

I've mentioned this before but if you're doing 5x5 then i've no doubt you can get 7 on that first set...and probably 6 on the second...maybe the 3rd too...then 5 on the 4th...and even if you only get 4 on the 5th then you still done more.

I do do this, tbf. I go pretty close to failure on all sets. Not to the extent i need a 5 minute rest period or anything but i will push every set rather than just the last couple. I work in rep ranges of say 10-15 so if i do 4 sets it's usually summin like 14, 12, 11, 10 or summin.
 
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This is one thing I don't do.

I've mentioned this before but if you're doing 5x5 then i've no doubt you can get 7 on that first set...and probably 6 on the second...maybe the 3rd too...then 5 on the 4th...and even if you only get 4 on the 5th then you still done more.

I do do this, tbf. I go pretty close to failure on all sets. Not to the extent i need a 5 minute rest period or anything but i will push every set rather than just the last couple. I work in rep ranges of say 10-15 so if i do 4 sets it's usually summin like 14, 12, 11, 10 or summin.
Yeah, I think you make good points. All I know is that I do make progress with 5x5 and billions of people do it. Maybe if I tried your version I’d make more progress. Fuck knows.

Weightlifting is an absolute minefield of info.
 
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I do think this bloke makes a solid point. I’ve definitely got exercises I could do every day and never have DOMs from, whereas others I can feel the onset of DOMs after the first set.


I do exactly what he says a lot of people do, too. I stick with all the big compound lifts I’ve always been told are best. Maybe I should do variations of them that actually make me burn like fuck instead.
 
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I do think this bloke makes a solid point. I’ve definitely got exercises I could do every day and never have DOMs from, whereas others I can feel the onset of DOMs after the first set.


I do exactly what he says a lot of people do, too. I stick with all the big compound lifts I’ve always been told are best. Maybe I should do variations of them that actually make me burn like fuck instead.
This is such a good video and something I've thought about a lot recently. I'm in the habbit of squatting low bar when I know High bar is way better for my goal, same with bench, I know incline press is far better for me but I always flat bench. I try to avoid lunges too even though I know they're a great movement for me. The only one of the big 3 lifts I think is great, is deadlifts.

I've started doing high bar after my low bar now but eventually I'd like to take it out completely.
 
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This is such a good video and something I've thought about a lot recently. I'm in the habbit of squatting low bar when I know High bar is way better for my goal, same with bench, I know incline press is far better for me but I always flat bench. I try to avoid lunges too even though I know they're a great movement for me. The only one of the big 3 lifts I think is great, is deadlifts.

I've started doing high bar after my low bar now but eventually I'd like to take it out completely.
Yeah, I think he makes a great point.

That whole ‘connection’; is it a psychological thing? Can it be changed? Could I find the connection on an exercise I’ve never had it before?

I don’t even know if my squats are high or low bar tbh.
 
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Actually just watched the video. 45 seconds in he says something along the lines of "you can basically ignore everyone and not deadlift or squat, ever."

Paraphrasing a bit there, but I agree totally. Will skip legs all together from now on as I don't connect with any of the exercises. Thanks guys, top thread.
 
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Yeah, I think he makes a great point.

That whole ‘connection’; is it a psychological thing? Can it be changed? Could I find the connection on an exercise I’ve never had it before?

I don’t even know if my squats are high or low bar tbh.
Definitely can find a better connection with certain movements by adjusting angles or even just really thinking about the muscle you're trying to use. Bench is a good example, I don't really feel it in my chest but if I bring my hands in and concentrate I can really feel it. Things like flies, you can go through the motion and not really feel them but if say you slow down the movement and try and think about trying to squeeze a penny between your tits, you'll feel it a lot more. Some things you'll have that instant connection, and some you'll have to try and find it.
 
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Are you trying to lift the weights or have sex with them, ffs.
Looks like somebody needs their chakras aligning. Maybe if you spent more time lifting spiritual barbells you wouldn’t flounce off home when people annoy you at the pub, Mr.Negative Nelly.
 
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Definitely can find a better connection with certain movements by adjusting angles or even just really thinking about the muscle you're trying to use. Bench is a good example, I don't really feel it in my chest but if I bring my hands in and concentrate I can really feel it. Things like flies, you can go through the motion and not really feel them but if say you slow down the movement and try and think about trying to squeeze a penny between your tits, you'll feel it a lot more. Some things you'll have that instant connection, and some you'll have to try and find it.
There’s deffo a lot of exercises where I don’t really feel any burning at the time, and never get DOMs later on. I’ll have to try and bear it in mind and tweak them somehow.
 
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I think a lot of it comes down to goals. If you're focused on physique goals, looking a certain way or growing a certain body part then obviously you want to put maximum volume through that muscle group. Feeling a burn and getting DOMS is a decent way to gauge that. If instead you've got numbers as a goal and want to hit a certain bench press 1rm, then I don't think tearing your chest to pieces once a week is going to be optimal. Frequency can be just as important as long as you're hitting decent volume through the week or fortnight or whatever your training cycle is.

Pushing to your limits in the gym as well depends on your overall situation. I want to be strong, yeah, but at the moment my focus is being a better grappler. There's no point in me squatting my face off on Saturday so I can't walk Sunday and I'm due back on the mat Monday when I'm in the worst part of the DOMS. It's about balance more than anything. I need to do just enough so that I can improve while still being as recovered as possible for the next time I need to perform.

The genetics talk is pretty interesting as well. Not to discount the effort people put in and the dedication they have, but look at a guy like Ed Coan. He's 5'6", built like a fridge with hands the size of dinner plates. He was always going to be a great lifter. I think it was Jezza Uepa who deadlifted 500+ lbs on his first day in a gym. Then it gets even more complex in body building when you start talking about muscle insertion points and joint width and all that shit. Once you add in drugs and high responders and low responders it just gets ridiculous.
 
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Looks like somebody needs their chakras aligning. Maybe if you spent more time lifting spiritual barbells you wouldn’t flounce off home when people annoy you at the pub, Mr.Negative Nelly.
Don't try that. I know with your social skills and well documented hatred of people you would love to be able to flounce off with the confidence I do.

Jealousy will get you no where. And neither will seducing your weights.
 
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Don't try that. I know with your social skills and well documented hatred of people you would love to be able to flounce off with the confidence I do.

Jealousy will get you no where. And neither will seducing your weights.
:lol: To be fair, I wouldn’t be at the pub in the first place. I prefer the ‘24/7 stay indoors’ sulk.
 
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:lol: To be fair, I wouldn’t be at the pub in the first place. I prefer the ‘24/7 stay indoors’ sulk.
Dunno why I do it to myself tbh.

I know at some point the social aspect is gonna annoy me, whether it be some cunt being obnoxious or me being pushed out the fucking convo.

I honestly reckon I could live happily ever after completely alone, maybe seeing family and the odd friend once or twice a year.
 
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100% the same here. It blows my mind that everyone wants to go for drinks after work constantly. Don’t get me wrong, there’s some decent lads at work, but get me home.