Racism is okay, apparently

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Good post. I mean, Sprinters, who are mostly of Sub Saharan descent has already been mentioned, the same could be said of Olympic swimmers, who are mostly of European descent.
The South Koreans dominate archery. The Russians dominated ice hockey. New Zealand dominate Rugby Union.

Lots of examples of this, and its always a mix of genetics, resources, culture, and relative lack of competition.

Genetics will always be a factor, but never the sole factor, and genetics is not limited to race. There is as much variation within races as between them. (mainly because race is a garbage categorisation).

No one group or ethnicity dominates men's soccer on an individual player level. This is because its one of the most universal sport, supports a wide(Ish) section of people, and doesn't require much resources but provides good returns.

Europe has dominated it over the past 20 years or so on a collective level however, winning all world cups and having most of the best club teams. This is down to finances. Not race or genes.


The American women dominate women's football however. Again, not because they are genetically superior, but because they have a culture that promotes football that other countries lacked, and more money involved.


You can have perfect genes, but if you don't have the right environment then you won't succeed, never mind dominate. Hard to be a golfer if you've never seen golf, can't afford clubs, and don't live near a course for example.
 
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No it doesn't, when it comes to sprinting, hurdling, long jump, basketball, running back, WR, defensive back, those with roots to western Africa rule. Long distant running ruled by other Africans.

The greatest golfer....Tiger Woods, the greatest female tennis player Serena Williams, the greatest heavyweight boxer Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Robonson???


Simply how it is not cherry picking.

Darts, cricket??????
Yes, it does :lol:

Surely the reaction to your posts is evidence enough that your narrow definition of athleticism isn’t how most people view athleticism? Your view of athleticism is simply defined by your favourites sports, which happen to be mainly based on speed, and played within the confines of one country (who happen to be fairly average when it comes to producing Olympic gold medalists per person I should add).

You won’t find me arguing that certain west Africans don’t hold a genetic advantage when it comes to sprint events, or certain East Africans when it comes to running endurance, or certain Scandinavians and east Europeans when it comes to raw strength.
 
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So wrong it's comical.

What white running back belongs in with this group....

Emmitt Smith
Jim Brown
Walter Payton
Bo Jackson
Gale Sayers
Eric Dickerson
Adrian Peterson
Barry Sanders
Terrell Davis
Earl Campbell
Marshall Faulk
Ladainian Tomlinson
Frank Gore
O.J.Simpson
Cookie Gilchrist
Curtis Martin
Marcus Allen
Tony Dorsett
Franco Harris
Edgerrin James
Jerome Bettis
Thurman Thomas

.....well?
Got some years to go but no doubt will be on that list when it's all said and done..... When perfectly healthy no other RB right now is touching him...

 
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Yes, it does :lol:

Surely the reaction to your posts is evidence enough that your narrow definition of athleticism isn’t how most people view athleticism? Your view of athleticism is simply defined by your favourites sports, which happen to be mainly based on speed, and played within the confines of one country (who happen to be fairly average when it comes to producing Olympic gold medalists per person I should add).

You won’t find me arguing that certain west Africans don’t hold a genetic advantage when it comes to sprint events, or certain East Africans when it comes to running endurance, or certain Scandinavians and east Europeans when it comes to raw strength.
So we do see geneics playing a huge role in sprinting/long distance running but it stops there?
 

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No it doesn't, when it comes to sprinting, hurdling, long jump, basketball, running back, WR, defensive back, those with roots to western Africa rule. Long distant running ruled by other Africans.

The greatest golfer....Tiger Woods, the greatest female tennis player Serena Williams, the greatest heavyweight boxer Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Robonson???


Simply how it is not cherry picking.

Darts, cricket??????

He has a 10.13 100m PR, the NFL has had about 20 players faster than that.

Tiger isn't the most successful golfer, (or black), Serena isn't the most successful tennis player.

They are also both outliers, indicating that black American genetics alone are not enough to guarantee success. If all you needed was the right genes then those sports would be full of tiger and Serena clones.


Athletics is a niche and relatively poorly paid sport. Americans do well in a big part because you are more interested and invest more in it.


Eastern Africans are not necessarily the best distance runners. They are best at the "short" long distances in athletics. Ultra distance running is much more diverse.
 
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Got some years to go but no doubt will be on that list when it's all said and done..... When perfectly healthy no other RB right now is touching him...

McCaffreys grandpa, the great Dave Sime....





Still considered to be among the 4/5 fastest white Americans ever.

And yes someday Christian will be the 4th white American in that top 50 list.
 
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So we do see geneics playing a huge role in sprinting/long distance running but it stops there?
No, hence why I mentioned strength events and the success of Scandinavian and Eastern European’s.

It becomes much more difficult to define when the sport becomes more widely played, with more facets to athleticism than just raw strength, speed or endurance. Hence why sports like football, rugby, tennis and combat sports which are all played globally have a massive range of excellent athletes from a variety of racial groups.
 
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No, hence why I mentioned strength events and the success of Scandinavian and Eastern European’s.

It becomes much more difficult to define when the sport becomes more widely played, with more facets to athleticism than just raw strength, speed or endurance. Hence why sports like football, rugby, tennis and combat sports which are all played globally have a massive range of excellent athletes from a variety of racial groups.
So, if talking "just" speed, then it is those with western African roots, the stats prove that.

In American football those stats/facts prove that once again athletes with roots to western Africa rule the skilled positions. Safe to say the same about basketball.

BUT......in sports where blacks don't seem to care much about.................................
 

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So, if talking "just" speed, then it is those with western African roots, the stats prove that.

In American football those stats/facts prove that once again athletes with roots to western Africa rule the skilled positions. Safe to say the same about basketball.

BUT......in sports where blacks don't seem to care much about.................................
The most popular sport amongst black populations worldwide is soccer......
 
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The most popular sport amongst black populations worldwide is soccer......
What is the average size of a soccer player? What......170ish pounds? That is a midget or a kicker in football. Blacks simply too big for soccer and the small fast super quick little guys can more $$$$$ playing football.



Christian Okoye a 4.4 guy at 255 pounds.
 
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So, if talking "just" speed, then it is those with western African roots, the stats prove that.

In American football those stats/facts prove that once again athletes with roots to western Africa rule the skilled positions. Safe to say the same about basketball.

BUT......in sports where blacks don't seem to care much about.................................
Like football, rugby and combat sports? :lol:
 
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Bob Weaver

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What is the average size of a soccer player? What......170ish pounds? That is a midget or a kicker in football. Blacks simply too big for soccer and the small fast super quick little guys can more $$$$$ playing football.
You inferred that the only sports black players don't dominate are sports they are not interested in.

I was just pointing out that the sport most popular with black people, (with all people), is soccer.

Therefore they should dominate it by your reasoning, yet they don't. No one does really.
 
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You inferred that the only sports black players don't dominate are sports they are not interested in.

I was just pointing out that the sport most popular with black people, (with all people), is soccer.

Therefore they should dominate it by your reasoning, yet they don't. No one does really.
How can they dominate a sport they are simply too big to play? How many NFLers are 170 pounds?

Ever see anyone like this playing soccer?




Soccer





See the difference?
 
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Bob Weaver

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How can they dominate a sport they are simply too big to play? How many NFLers are 170 pounds?

Ever see anyone like this playing soccer?


Do you think all black people play in the nfl? :lol:


There is a whole world outside your tiny bubble dude.

Also, the average height of a black male in America is 5'8.



Also, these nfl guys who are too big to play soccer obviously have inferior genes. For that sport. And many others. They also live in a footballing wasteland so lack the culture and resources required to create lots of good players.
 
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Do you think all black people play in the nfl? :lol:


There is a whole world outside your tiny bubble dude.

Also, the average height of a black male in America is 5'8.



Also, these nfl guys who are too big to play soccer obviously have inferior genes. For that sport. And many others. They also live in a footballing wasteland so lack the culture and resources required to create lots of good players.
What I think is black folks make up about 14% of Americans, of that 14% about 7% are males. Of that 7% about 4ish % are between 20=30 if that, of that 4ish % they are.....

100% of this countries Olympic caliber 100/200/400m sprinters
98% of NFL running backs
100% of cornerbacks
90% of WR;s
100% of Olympic caliber long jumpers
95% of Olympic caliber hurdlers
100% of USA sub 10.00 sprinters
100% of USA sub 20.00 sprinters
100& of USA sub 13.00 hurdlers


All that from about 4ish % of the population,, what does that tell us?

It's like soul music, it;s black. country music is white, no biggie just how things are.
 
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There are less than 200, 000 Nigerian American males.
of the 30 players selected in the first round of this year's NBA draft, 5 are Nigerian Americans.
 
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What's the average weight for the position of the kicker in the NFL anyway? I know they tend to be the lightest of the lot.