Ranking Career Opponents

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A look at boxers careers by just acknowledging fights at world level.
  1. World Level - considered in top 10
Standings

  1. Vasiliy Lomachenko, 58%
  2. Jimmy McLarnin, 52%
  3. Ezzard Charles, 40%
  4. Mike Tyson, 36%
  5. Sugar Ray Robinson, 26%
  6. Danny Garcia, 24%
  7. Anthony Joshua, 23%
  8. Saul Alvarez, 20%
  9. Nigel Been, 17%
  10. Sandy Saddler, 12%
 
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I think you'd have to add Buster Douglas and Larry Holmes to Mike's 'contenders' list. Douglas was in the top 10 at the time of the Tyson fight. And while it's a little more murky with Holmes due to how long he'd been out of the ring beforehand -- so he wasn't really ranked with any independent body -- I still feel he needs including.

Also as he fought Holyfield, Bruno and Ruddock twice each, those numbers need a little adjusting :good
 
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I think you'd have to add Buster Douglas and Larry Holmes to Mike's 'contenders' list. Douglas was in the top 10 at the time of the Tyson fight. And while it's a little more murky with Holmes due to how long he'd been out of the ring beforehand -- so he wasn't really ranked with any independent body -- I still feel he needs including.

Also as he fought Holyfield, Bruno and Ruddock twice each, those numbers need a little adjusting :good
Good shout on Douglas, not sure how missed him!

Thought about Holmes, but just couldn't place him in that category despite ability. Might change it from contenders to "world level" and will include him.

Will adjust to reflect.
 
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Sandy Saddler, 145-16-2

World Level


Phil Terranova, Miguel Acevedo (x2), Humberto Sierra, Harold Dade, Charley Riley, Lauro Salas, Paddy DeMarco+ (x2), George Araujo+, Ray Famechon, Teddy Davis, Joey Lopes, Flash Elorde, Larry Boardman+, Willie Pep (x4).

+ weight class above

163 fights
19 world level fights = 12%
 
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Nigel Benn, 42-5-1

World Level


Doug DeWitt, Iran Barkley, Chris Eubank, Mauro Galvano, Chris Eubank, Gerald McClellan, Steve Collins (x2)

+ weight class above

48 fights
8 world level fights = 17%
 
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Throwing in an active fighter;

Anthony Joshua, 22-0

World Level


Charles Martin, Wladimir Klitschko, Carlos Takam, Joseph Parker, Alexander Povetkin

22 fights
5 world level fights = 23%
 
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Ezzard Charles, 95-25-1

World Level


Ken Overlin (x2), Teddy Yarosz+, Anton Christoforidis+, Kid Tunero, Charley Burley< (x2), Booker Beckwith+, Jose Basora, Jimmy Bivins (x4, +3), Lloyd Marshall (x2), Archie Moore (x3), Oakland Billy Smith (x2), Elmer Ray+ (x2), Fitzie Fitzpatrick, Joe Baksi>, Joey Maxim (x3), Jersey Joe Walcott (x3), Gus Lesnevich, Pat Valentino, Joe Louis, Lee Oma, Rex Layne (x3), Wes Bascom<, Tommy Harrison<, Larry Watson<, Harold Johnson<, Coley Wallace, Bob Satterfield, Rocky Marciano (x2), Charley Norkus, Tommy Jackson (x2), Young Jack Johnson

+weight class above
<weight class below

121 fights
49 world level fights = 40%
 
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Mike Tyson, 50-6-0

World Level


Trevor Berbick, James Smith, Pinklon Thomas, Tony Tucker, Tyrell Biggs, Tony Tubbs, Larry Holmes, Frank Bruno (x2), Carl Williams, Michael Spinks, Buster Douglas, Alex Stewart, Donovan Ruddock, Bruce Seldon, Evander Holyfield (x2), Andrew Golota, Lennox Lewis.

56 fights
20 world level fights = 36%

* was posted first, but moved to allow for standings
 
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Saul Alvarez, 52-1-2

World Level


Ryan Rhodes, Austin Trout, Floyd Mayweather, Erislandy Lara, Miguel Cotto+, Amir Khan<, Liam Smith<, Gennady Golovkin (x2), Rocky Fielding+, Daniel Jacobs

55 fights
11 world level fights = 20%
 
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Vasiliy Lomachenko, 13-1-0

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Orlando Salido, Roman Martinez, Nicholas Walters, Jason Sosa, Guillermo Rigondeaux<, Jorge Linares+, Jose Pedraza, Anthony Crolla

14 fights
8 world level fights = 58%
 
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Nigel Benn, 42-5-1

World Level


Doug DeWitt, Iran Barkley, Chris Eubank, Mauro Galvano, Chris Eubank, Gerald McClellan, Steve Collins (x2)

+ weight class above

48 fights
8 world level fights = 17%
I'd throw in Thulani Malinga for Benn as well and, at a push, Henry Wharton.
 
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Ezzard Charles, 95-25-1

World Level


Ken Overlin (x2), Teddy Yarosz+, Anton Christoforidis+, Kid Tunero, Charley Burley< (x2), Booker Beckwith+, Jose Basora, Jimmy Bivins (x3, +2), Lloyd Marshall (x2), Archie Moore (x3), Oakland Billy Smith (x2), Jimmy Bivins+, Elmer Ray+ (x2), Fitzie Fitzpatrick, Joe Baksi>, Joey Maxim (x3), Jersey Joe Walcott (x3), Gus Lesnevich, Pat Valentino, Joe Louis, Lee Oma, Rex Layne (x3), Wes Bascom<, Tommy Harrison<, Larry Watson<, Harold Johnson<, Coley Wallace, Bob Satterfield, Rocky Marciano (x2), Charley Norkus, Tommy Jackson (x2), Young Jack Johnson

+weight class above
<weight class below

121 fights
49 world level fights = 40%
Ridiculously good record!
 
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Jimmy McLarnin:

Fidel LaBarba x3, Memphis Pal Moore, Bud Taylor x3, Pancho Villa, Jackie Fields, Joe Glick x3, Johnny Farr, Tommy Cello x2, Johnny Lamar, Lope Tenorio, Louis Kid Kaplan, Billy Wallace, Sid Terris, Sammy Mandell x3, Ray Miller x2, Stanislaus Loayza, Phil McGraw, Sergeant Sammy Baker, Ruby Goldstein, Young Jack Thompson, Al Singer, Billy Petrolle x3, Lou Brouillard, Benny Leonard, Sammy Fuller, Young Corbett III, Barney Ross x3, Tony Canzoneri x2, Lou Ambers.

44 out of 69 total = 63.768%.

Beat that, mofos! :bbb
 
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Walters, Martinez, Russell Jr.?
I had them in, but when I cross referenced (Trasnational rankings) they weren't in there, I triple checked - so thought I must of over-rated them at time?

Can agree world level when fought?
 
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I'd throw in Thulani Malinga for Benn as well and, at a push, Henry Wharton.
I have Thulani Malinga as borderline World Level, beating Benn put him as a top 10 operator.

Wharton I have at a similar level when he fought Benn.
 
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Jimmy McLarnin:

Fidel LaBarba x3, Memphis Pal Moore, Bud Taylor x3, Pancho Villa, Jackie Fields, Joe Glick x3, Johnny Farr, Tommy Cello x2, Johnny Lamar, Lope Tenorio, Louis Kid Kaplan, Billy Wallace, Sid Terris, Sammy Mandell x3, Ray Miller x2, Stanislaus Loayza, Phil McGraw, Sergeant Sammy Baker, Ruby Goldstein, Young Jack Thompson, Al Singer, Billy Petrolle x3, Lou Brouillard, Benny Leonard, Sammy Fuller, Young Corbett III, Barney Ross x3, Tony Canzoneri x2, Lou Ambers.

44 out of 69 total = 63.768%.

Beat that, m 0ofos! :bbb
Here's what I came up with.

Jimmy McLarnin, 55-11-3

World Level


Fidel LaBarba, Pancho Villa<, Bud Taylor (x3), Louis 'Kid' Kaplan, Billy Wallace, Stanislaus Loayza, Phil McGraw, Sid Terris, Ray Miller (x2), Joe Glick (x3, 1<), Sergeant Sammy Baker, Sammy Mandell< (x3), Ruby Goldstein, Young Jack Thompson+, Al Singer,, Billy Petrolle (x3), Lou Brouillard, Sammy Fuller<, Young Corbett III, Barney Ross (x3), Tony Canzoneri< (x2), Lou Ambers

69 fights
36world level fights = 52%
 
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Cool thread. Someone off the top of my head was Danny Garcia:

35-2

World class opponents: Shawn Porter, Keith Thurman, Lamont Peterson, Lucas Matthysse, Zab Judah, Amir Khan, Erik Morales (x2), Kendall Holt (?)

37 fights
9 world level fights=~24%

Was Kendall Holt a top 10 LWW when they fought, though? I know Morales was a top 10 the first time they fought, but I wasn't sure if he was top 10 the second time. This one might not be that conservative.
 
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I had them in, but when I cross referenced (Trasnational rankings) they weren't in there, I triple checked - so thought I must of over-rated them at time?

Can agree world level when fought?
Russell Jr. probably wasn't top 10 at the time, to be fair. And maybe they 'penalised' Walters because he didn't have a win (only a draw with Jason Sosa) at super featherweight? Although I think it'd be unfair not to include him in this particular ranking discussion.

Martinez was 'world' champion at the time of the Loma fight, so he must've been ranked by the TBRB? :think1
 
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Russell Jr. probably wasn't top 10 at the time, to be fair. And maybe they 'penalised' Walters because he didn't have a win (only a draw with Jason Sosa) at super featherweight? Although I think it'd be unfair not to include him in this particular ranking discussion.

Martinez was 'world' champion at the time of the Loma fight, so he must've been ranked by the TBRB? :think1
Yeah checked again - yep right, Martinez was in there. And gonna put Walters in like say.
 
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