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kf3

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Please explain how I gave money to him? Likewise please explain how viewing his films bears any connection to the vile crimes he committed outside of that.
the word perhaps is right there.

pick your own view on separating the art from the artist, in this case the man raped children so imo fuck his art.
 
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the word perhaps is right there.

pick your own view on separating the art from the artist, in this case the man raped children so imo fuck his art.
Fuck him, doesn't mean I cannot watch a film he made and like it for what it is. Likewise I can look at the artwork of, say, Egon Schiele or Paul Gauguin, and admire the art for what it is.
 

kf3

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Fuck him, doesn't mean I cannot watch a film he made and like it for what it is. Likewise I can look at the artwork of, say, Egon Schiele or Paul Gauguin, and admire the art for what it is.
you can do if you chose to, and any time you talk about it people will bring up what they are.

i chose not to, there's endless art in the world not made by people who rape children.
 

BigBone

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you can do if you chose to, and any time you talk about it people will bring up what they are.

i chose not to, there's endless art in the world not made by people who rape children.
Um Macbeth is a play by William Shakespeare, never heard of him being a child rapist. And as far as a film adaptation goes, there's about 100 ppl. in creative roles working on it and more than 1000 in pre, on set and post, and its quite disrespectful to all to say you won't watch their professional work because you single out one individual's personal deeds - that will have happened several years after the movie's release.

I get where ur coming from but I'm pretty sure just about every major movie ever made has ppl. with bad deeds in it if you dig deep enough (no bum intended), and at that rate you might just skip films entirely.
 

kf3

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Um Macbeth is a play by William Shakespeare, never heard of him being a child rapist. And as far as a film adaptation goes, there's about 100 ppl. in creative roles working on it and more than 1000 in pre, on set and post, and its quite disrespectful to all to say you won't watch their professional work because you single out one individual's personal deeds - that will have happened several years after the movie's release.

I get where ur coming from but I'm pretty sure just about every major movie ever made has ppl. with bad deeds in it if you dig deep enough (no bum intended), and at that rate you might just skip films entirely.
nobody is talking about shakespeare or the play.

i feel bad for the people who worked on a film co written and directed by him. i don't care if they feel disrespected by my views at all.
 
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It's an interesting debate about whether you can separate art from the artist, and I don't think there is a definitive answer.

I think it depends a lot on the art and the artist. It's more difficult if they are still alive, or if their work is related to their issues.

I don't have a clear answer, and often just go with my gut.
 
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Sittin Sonny

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It's an interesting debate about whether you can separate art from the artist, and I don't think there is a definitive answer.

I think it depends a lot on the art and the artist. It's more difficult if they are still alive, or if their work is related to their issues.

I don't have a clear answer, and often just go with my gut.

I think I've found a solution that will make everyone happy. Thank me later.


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BigBone

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nobody is talking about shakespeare or the play.

i feel bad for the people who worked on a film co written and directed by him. i don't care if they feel disrespected by my views at all.
Feel bad for them why? Think they would've turned down their salary if you told them "hey, in few years the director might rape a teen girl. Or not"? Deed wasn't done yet, but if you are fascinated by it to the point of this debate and don't think it can be separated from his work, by all means ride the high horse and point out the rapey red flags in Macbeth. If u can't, then what r we even talkin about?
 

kf3

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Feel bad for them why? Think they would've turned down their salary if you told them "hey, in few years the director might rape a teen girl. Or not"? Deed wasn't done yet, but if you are fascinated by it to the point of this debate and don't think it can be separated from his work, by all means ride the high horse and point out the rapey red flags in Macbeth. If u can't, then what r we even talkin about?
me and matty wrote reviews of a polanski film, i guess mine was more controversial but not everything needs to be an argument to the death.

for background; kid me thought michael jackson was the greatest thing ever, then when i was about 15 all the stuff about him came out, since then i have not been so big on seperating the art and artist. it's not about being on a high horse, it's just the way i view things.
 
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kf3

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Sorry I missed your Macbeth review, could you please link it?
it said i won't watch it because of who the artist is.

i get when politics stuff becomes argument to the death, why my opinion here is such an issue that needs to be attacked is a thing i don't understand. and you cannot change my view anyway so this is just pointless.

in polanski's specific case the art is the reason he is allowed to live a free life, if he was a business tycoon that would be the reason, but it is directly because of the art.
 
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kf3

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That's hardly a film review in a thread dedicated for them now is it? :lol: But I'll leave you off the cock... I mean hook.
yes, that is my review of macbeth made by a paedophile who escaped justice due to the money and reptution gained from his art.

if you didn't like it fine, it was one post that i had no idea would cause this level of response from people, not actually responding to my posts but selectivley quoting things to attack seems pretty fucking fake and pointless to me.
 
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BigBone

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yes, that is my review of macbeth made by a paedophile who escaped justice due to the money and reptution gained from his art.

if you didn't like it fine, it was one post that i had no idea would cause this level of response from people, not actually responding to my posts but selectivley quoting things to attack seems pretty fucking fake and pointless to me.
But Macbeth wasn't made by a pedophile, you can't retroactively condemn ppl. for something they'll gonna commit some years later, that's the flaw in your logic. Everything you said came later so to speak, hence my suggestion if you really think he was a paedo already as you state, at least try to prove it?
 

kf3

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But Macbeth wasn't made by a pedophile, you can't retroactively condemn ppl. for something they'll gonna commit some years later, that's the flaw in your logic. Everything you said came later so to speak, hence my suggestion if you really think he was a paedo already as you state, at least try to prove it?
i could be being a dick and saying you are doing this because you are a nonce too, but that's not true so what would be the point?

you could be being a dick and selectivley quoting things and refusing to read posts and using lame smilies, you are and there is no point.
 
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BigBone

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i could be being a dick and saying you are doing this because you are a nonce too, but that's not true so what would be the point?

you could be being a dick and selectivley quoting things and refusing to read posts and using lame smilies, you are and there is no point.
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kf3

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asks questions, gets an answer twice, ignores it both times and asks it again, posts smilies.

did that make the point he wanted to make?
 

BigBone

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Pitch Black (2000) - 4K Restoration

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One of the great lowish-budget movies of the 2000s is a perfect example how to make most of limited resources and a charismatic lead. The lighting, pre-digital coloring via filters, the claustrophobic dark atmosphere, the shock scares and some religious and philosophical thoughts just thrown over a minimalistic story somehow works to the tee. Then-unknown Vin Diesel playing a psycho killer and questioning ppl's morality in crisis helps too, it's well scripted, and remarkable how good it looks in 4K restoration. The skin textures, and non-human interactions, the overblown bright scenes and the pitch black ones are fully detailed and sound design matches the quality. While it wasn't entirely low budget but rather mid, David Twohy's tight, paced direction with enough human touch between shock and action made every penny thrown at it count. VERY HIGHLY RECOMMENDED
 
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