Retired Parkland deputy arrested, charged with 11 counts of cowardice for failing to confront a school shooter. Faces 100 years in prison. Moral?

Which is closest to the sort of sanctions should this guy face?

  • Prison

  • Kicked off the force, no pension

  • Kicked off the force, pension intact

  • The public shame and disgrace is punishment enough


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Mat Cauthon

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“I remember very clearly that the day after it happened, I went to school in the morning and kicked open the door to my first class like I always did. And the entire classroom instantly hushed up and stared at me. So I laughed and wagged my finger at them, and an hour later I was in the guidance counselor's office with the dean of seniors, trying to talk my way out of a suspension.”

Jesus Christ.

What a fucking bellend.
 

DBerry

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'Straya, cunt.
For some reason @Haggis isn't to keen on sharing it with you. Here's @Arka and @Tuff Gong recounting it:

The #BrokebackColumbine Story

TG also mentions it here in the same thread
Fucken #BrokebackColimbine :rofl
“I remember very clearly that the day after it happened, I went to school in the morning and kicked open the door to my first class like I always did. And the entire classroom instantly hushed up and stared at me. So I laughed and wagged my finger at them, and an hour later I was in the guidance counselor's office with the dean of seniors, trying to talk my way out of a suspension.”

Jesus Christ.

What a fucking bellend.
Yeah, we don’t have “deans” here in Australian schools, the cunt is a total tryhard yank, I wonder if it’s due to this incident that he can’t get into the US?
 
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It is odd that @Haggis has not come in here to clear any of this up. The quoted posts in the link are just him kicking open a door and acting like a tit, not planning anything. But, Tuff Gong says he remembers a clear post about a genuine plan. I'd be interested to hear Haggis' take on this, at the end of the day he didn't do anything, but regardless it is pretty out there.
 
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Mat Cauthon

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It’s amazing the lengths people will go to get away from Haggis IRL, what with girlfriends moving to Finland and Papua New Guinea, and male friends committing suicide.

He must be a real little bundle of Christmas joy and sparkle.
 

Icemmann

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No doubt anyone can freeze when things get real but if it’s your duty to do certain things and peoples lives depend on it there must be some degree of culpability for that.

The way I see it is this, nobody forces anybody to sign up for this type of work, it’s not conscription, he chose a career in protecting the public, and if he worked at a school he obviously knew this was always a potential (yet unlikely) thing to happen.

Like I was saying earlier, if this is you or me, just an ordinary decent bloke and we bottled it, wouldn’t hold it against myself or you, but this was his duty, this is what he was meant to do, and he didn’t. That to me is unforgivable
You are severely overestimating what his duties at a posting like a high school like that is. It isn't as if he's a fresh from the academy full of testosterone rookie that thinks he's Superman. He won't even be on par with the average beat cop/patrol officer. He'll do the yearly qualification as required at the range, and spend the rest of his time posted at the school campus to give the school administrators a sense of security that a "police man" is on site to take unruly students into custody pronto, and to curtail abusive parents who may pull up to the school and start disputes.

He won't even have the benefit of the average patrolman's reaction to the possibility/anticipation of real danger, that they would from traffic stops, responding to calls, etc.

Not to mention that the sound of of rifle for would just immediately drill into his skull that he is severely outgunned.

Police here need appropriate training in line with what the expectations of their jobs are.

Yearly shooting at stationary paper targets with a handgun isn't going to be sufficient in these cases.
 
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It is odd that @Haggis has not come in here to clear any of this up. The quoted posts in the link are just him kicking open a door and acting like a tit, not planning anything. But, Tuff Gong says he remembers a clear post about a genuine plan. I'd be interested to hear Haggis' take on this, at the end of the day he didn't do anything, but regardless it is pretty out there.
Yeah, same. So far, any story linked doesn't mention anything first hand about his plan to actually carry out a shooting.
 
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It is odd that @Haggis has not come in here to clear any of this up. The quoted posts in the link are just him kicking open a door and acting like a tit, not planning anything. But, Tuff Gong says he remembers a clear post about a genuine plan. I'd be interested to hear Haggis' take on this, at the end of the day he didn't do anything, but regardless it is pretty out there.
Yeah, same. So far, any story linked doesn't mention anything first hand about his plan to actually carry out a shooting.
The thread that was quoted had plenty of references to it and @Haggis didn't deny it once.

He's admitted as much in other threads that it's true.

But, let's wait and see if @Haggis will admit or deny what's been put forth.

How long do you blokes wanna give him?
 

DBerry

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'Straya, cunt.
The thread that was quoted had plenty of references to it and @Haggis didn't deny it once.

He's admitted as much in other threads that it's true.

But, let's wait and see if @Haggis will admit or deny what's been put forth.

How long do you blokes wanna give him?
I remember reading that on ESB, I couldn’t grasp why someone would admit that, I’ve wanted to shoot people before, not a bunch of random innocents though, and I struggled getting my head around that, too.
 

Haggis

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It is odd that @Haggis has not come in here to clear any of this up. The quoted posts in the link are just him kicking open a door and acting like a tit, not planning anything. But, Tuff Gong says he remembers a clear post about a genuine plan. I'd be interested to hear Haggis' take on this, at the end of the day he didn't do anything, but regardless it is pretty out there.
Why would I comment? These fuckwits are obsessed with me and will ruin any thread i I appear in. First post of this thread - Dale babbling shit about me, trying to derail it before it even begins. Three hundred and fifty posts later, he reappears again and does he want to add his $0.02 to the discussion? Of course not. He wants to babble shit about me.

You want to know? Whatever, fine. Twenty years ago, I had a bad case of high school angst. I had a close friend from childhood who turned out to be a fucking nut. It was the height of school shooting hysteria, and everyone in our year used to joke about us going apeshit. We knew exactly how we'd do it too, of course, except since we didn't live in America it was never ever on the cards. So we'd pretty much just joke about it with each other, both being weird intense kids.

I was very unhappy at school and at home, and so was he. After high school I was sick of everything in my life, and decided to do some travelling around the cheapest, easiest place outside of Australia. I worked outside and was somewhat nomadic for a bit. I moved south in the winter when the orchards closed up, and found a flat and a job. Joined an established social cricket team a few months later and made some good friends. Met a workmate's flatmate, and all of a sudden I had a girlfriend and a good social circle. So I stayed. And that's about it. Now I have a nice low-key life, a worthwhile job that I'm good at, I visit back home every year or so, I'm starting to think about buying a house next year with my missus, and I haven't thought about or posted about 17 year old me in years. Literally years. It was not a time that I have happy memories of or wish to dwell on, and I have a pretty happy life now. These obsessed simpleton fuckwits think and talk about this shit WAY more than I do. Why would I want to address anything with them? They're just worthless simpleton cunts, mate. Fuck them. They want to talk about it, they can start another pathetic fake Twitter account with my avatar and gossip about me and jerk each other off while everyone else completely ignores it because they're legit embarrassed that middle aged men actually think that's cool and funny, instead of sad and shameful. :sad

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Mat Cauthon

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Why would I comment? These fuckwits are obsessed with me and will ruin any thread i I appear in. First post of this thread - Dale babbling shit about me, trying to derail it before it even begins. Three hundred and fifty posts later, he reappears again and does he want to add his $0.02 to the discussion? Of course not. He wants to babble shit about me.

You want to know? Whatever, fine. Twenty years ago, I had a bad case of high school angst. I had a close friend from childhood who turned out to be a fucking nut. It was the height of school shooting hysteria, and everyone in our year used to joke about us going apeshit. We knew exactly how we'd do it too, of course, except since we didn't live in America it was never ever on the cards. So we'd pretty much just joke about it with each other, both being weird intense kids.

I was very unhappy at school and at home, and so was he. After high school I was sick of everything in my life, and decided to do some travelling around the cheapest, easiest place outside of Australia. I worked outside and was somewhat nomadic for a bit. I moved south in the winter when the orchards closed up, and found a flat and a job. Joined an established social cricket team a few months later and made some good friends. Met a workmate's flatmate, and all of a sudden I had a girlfriend and a good social circle. So I stayed. And that's about it. Now I have a nice low-key life, a worthwhile job that I'm good at, I visit back home every year or so, I'm starting to think about buying a house next year with my missus, and I haven't thought about or posted about 17 year old me in years. Literally years. It was not a time that I have happy memories of or wish to dwell on, and I have a pretty happy life now. These obsessed simpleton fuckwits think and talk about this shit WAY more than I do. Why would I want to address anything with them? They're just worthless simpleton cunts, mate. Fuck them. They want to talk about it, they can start another pathetic fake Twitter account with my avatar and gossip about me and jerk each other off while everyone else completely ignores it because they're embarrassed that middle aged men actually think that's cool and funny, instead of sad and shameful. :sad

:hat
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Haggis

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Another one, right on cue.

Got anything to say about the topic of the thread?

No?

Have you done anything in your last 20 posts here, except to cry about how you don't like Johnstown or I?

Well..... you did post a photo of what the Bada Bing looks like now. Aside from that..... no, you literally haven't brought a single thing to this place other than salty tears. Awesome. :thumbsup

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Haggis

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Well there you go, @Strike. Why didn't I respond? Because of these boring cunts who have ruined the forum. And from now on, this thread is going to be nothing but them doing this shit. Great, right? More of that makes this forum better for everyone. Because one thing we're short on here, is utter retards babbling shit and spamming stupid gifs and making this entire lounge and every thread in it all about how they don't like Haggis. :rolleyes

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